Stargazers?

[Jhaeme]

WHAT am I doing incorrectly?! I've just used up every ammo drop in the Depths trying to collect the few there, since I had the Fishmon thing. Crab are easy, man. These little...things...are not. Is there a trick? I've looked up guides, and videos...those, for some reason, just show people dropping rocks on them. (Really?) So, I even tried specifically searching for 'how to catch bluespotted stargazer with a steel net gun', since they were all about ''killing'' them with the rock. Nada.

Is there a trick? Between this and the prehistoric shark roe thing, it's becoming a bit laborious as opposed to fun. I love this game. I don't want it to feel like a chore. I just need to know if there is a specific thing (about netting it) that I've again missed. 'Git gud' isn't going to help. If they weren't on one of my very few money dishes (I should be well higher by now; very badly mismanaged Banchos), I'd just leave them altogether. Can't farm them; seems a lot of faff for little reward, but still..I need them at the mo.

[Lod101]

If you want to catch the Stargazers with the Steel Net Gun you need to shoot them when they attack and are "out of the Ground".
i try to be just outside of the attack range to not get hit, but still be in aggro range.
then i pre aim for the slow down and wait for it to attack.

[Jhaeme]

Originally posted by Lod101:

If you want to catch the Stargazers with the Steel Net Gun you need to shoot them when they attack and are "out of the Ground".
i try to be just outside of the attack range to not get hit, but still be in aggro range.
then i pre aim for the slow down and wait for it to attack.

I am trying to do that, but it seems to shoot right through it, if that makes sense, and explodes behind it somewhere. I've tried shooting towards the ground, straight across/in-line, slightly above, both sides, if possible...I'm not sure if it's actually me or not, at this point. I mean, you can only aim so many different ways. XD

The weirdest part is I'd done this once already without issue a few days ago. It's why I'm baffled now. I think I might just start this part over again, and see if it's still happening.

Thanks for your insight, yet again. :-)

[Jhaeme]

Ha! Nvm; restarting it worked. Didn't even realise the Fishmon thing wasn't working as should, it just stuck to me like a magnet the entire time....thought it was meant to do that. Yeesh.

[RandomTurtle]

I find being on the left side of them will help me a lot of the time. I shoot them when the perk up ready for an attack. However some are just in really bad spots where their hitbox just isn't it. At those points you need to hit it mid strike, which can be a challenge.

[Jhaeme]

Originally posted by RandomTurtle01:

I find being on the left side of them will help me a lot of the time. I shoot them when the perk up ready for an attack. However some are just in really bad spots where their hitbox just isn't it. At those points you need to hit it mid strike, which can be a challenge.

Hi, you. :-)

Oh, my goodness, yes! When they're wedged in a rut between two ''walls'', there is just no getting the right angle with the limited aiming scope in this game (a slight point of contention; needs to be an extra 10-15 degrees both ways, imho; it just seems narrow, for some reason, and I pretty much misjudge that angle every time as I naturally want to go a bit wider *shrugs*). Luckily, I finally have enough (literal) breathing room, ha, that I can take a few hits in those cases, and just have to get in the trench with them.

So, to be clear, for future reference...you hit them when they do the 'false start', rather than when they actually jump out? I didn't know that was an option; might help me get hit less. Are you shooting from above, or same level?

Thanks for letting me pick your brain. Yet again.

[RandomTurtle]

Originally posted by Jhaeme:

Originally posted by RandomTurtle01:

I find being on the left side of them will help me a lot of the time. I shoot them when the perk up ready for an attack. However some are just in really bad spots where their hitbox just isn't it. At those points you need to hit it mid strike, which can be a challenge.

Hi, you. :-)

Oh, my goodness, yes! When they're wedged in a rut between two ''walls'', there is just no getting the right angle with the limited aiming scope in this game (a slight point of contention; needs to be an extra 10-15 degrees both ways, imho; it just seems narrow, for some reason, and I pretty much misjudge that angle every time as I naturally want to go a bit wider *shrugs*). Luckily, I finally have enough (literal) breathing room, ha, that I can take a few hits in those cases, and just have to get in the trench with them.

So, to be clear, for future reference...you hit them when they do the 'false start', rather than when they actually jump out? I didn't know that was an option; might help me get hit less. Are you shooting from above, or same level?

Thanks for letting me pick your brain. Yet again.

I try to get level with them, or at least low enough to aim at them. I catch a few in my "Creatures That Don't Go To The Fish Farm" Video if you're looking for a visual example. And even have one of the ones with the bad hitbox. But yes it is on the false start that I aim to net them.

[Jhaeme]

I'm definitely going watch that. I didn't know you had more video guides, thank you for telling me; as I could not find one that didn't involve dropping rocks, this is kind of revelatory...though my search parameters *were* very specific. Not surprising I'd missed it.

Although, I may have seen somebody 'steel net bomb' one? I was just thinking that's impossible, but no, it isn't, if your oxygen level is high enough; it's actually not a bad idea, especially if you don't want to take your net gun for the entire run...though aren't you 'interrupted' if hit? I seem to remember having to try laying sensor bombs a few times because I'd been hit by a fangtooth or some such. Perhaps I've imagined it. *shrugs*

:-)

[Lod101]

yup you get interrupted when trying to place stuff while getting hit.
so timing is key if you want to use the steel net mines.

[Jhaeme]

Originally posted by Lod101:

yup you get interrupted when trying to place stuff while getting hit.
so timing is key if you want to use the steel net mines.

Oh, shiz. Was it you that I saw on YouTube? I do remember it being someone really skilled, and they blasted through from the boat all the way to the Hydrothermal Vents with just a Steel Net Gun and the bombs...I was hoping to see them shoot the stargazers, but it was to show netting the Narwhal and killing the Dunkelosaur (shark). XD

Thanks for the confirmation. :-)

[Lod101]

i don't think you saw me on youtube, since i never recorded a video ever XD

[XT]

Did you ever try using a steel net trap? Those can work too and may be easier since they don't rely on aiming at a bad hitbox.

[Jhaeme]

Originally posted by Lod101:

i don't think you saw me on youtube, since i never recorded a video ever XD

Oh, haha, my bad. Well, whoever owns the channel, they're a far, far better player than I. :-)

Originally posted by XT:

Did you ever try using a steel net trap? Those can work too and may be easier since they don't rely on aiming at a bad hitbox.

I did try a couple days ago, and lost both because I was too far away (outside the area it could hit me is also not close enough to trigger the bomb, haha...whoops). I'm going to try again though. Haven't gotten around to it yet; just about to start the Italian VIP thing at Banchos, but I will definitely need more stargazer, since at best, you only get three or four per dive. It's just that I played the restaurant so poorly, only a few dishes are worth time and effort (that being one) if I want to finish this playthrough. Can't wait to finally finish; learned a lot from the myriad mistakes of this one. So. MANY. mistakes. XD

[HoLYAssAsIN]

Just my 2 cents. Timing is of the essense with the stargazers. What works for me 90% of the time is wait for their actual attack and shoot the steel net 1/2 a second before they initiate it. You can practice that by standing at the edge of their aggro range. That way they will still attack but won't be able to damage you.

[Jhaeme]

Originally posted by HoLYAssAsIN:

Just my 2 cents. Timing is of the essense with the stargazers. What works for me 90% of the time is wait for their actual attack and shoot the steel net 1/2 a second before they initiate it. You can practice that by standing at the edge of their aggro range. That way they will still attack but won't be able to damage you.

I 100% believe you, man. I've just nearly killed myself trying the steel net bomb as many times as my oxygen would allow me getting hit (maxed, fyi)....it did not work for me. Definitely within its range, but it just kept hitting me, rather than set off the bomb...even when I would swim just out of range so it would still attack. It was definitely overlaid, so I dunno, unless I need to set it much closer, but I fail to see the difference if it's within its aggro reach?

I'm going to grab the steel net gun next dive and try, try again. XD

Thanks for sharing your method with me. I honestly thought the jumping crabs were going to be my problem; you can get all three in one go, without difficulty. XD

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3020637907

[Jhaeme]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3020643879

Ok, you can definitely see it overlay the bomb here! Is it just me?