Wide area net?

[Halfshell]

I just got access to the netgun and pretty disappointed that its a small net. Seems best used for catching mid-sized fish, I suspect the blowfish in particular. But I wanted something to catch many small fish.. so tedious to catch them.

[Your Majesty]

Well... Get a bit further in the story.

And don't forget to grab all the fragments and rope that you can find.

[Mercurial]

Even when upgraded, the net gun isn't great at catching multiple fish. It's easier to catch ~2 fish at the same time with the upgrades, but it still feels primarily like a one fish net.

The main benefit to the upgrades is that you get more ammo.

If you want the net gun to be more efficient, the best tactic is to spook one fish towards another, and net them when they overlap.

If you intend to upgrade it, you'll need a lot of rope, and to advance the story until that function reveals itself. Farming fragments is much easier after that, too.

Ultimately, the net gun is pretty good. It's an easy way to quickly fill up on specific high quality fish you're looking for.

[Halfshell]

Feel like it needs a buff, it says its able to catch upto 7 fish while I only have the small version. If its intended to be a 1-2 fish gun then why does tranq gun exist? Tranq gun hits larger fish, sure.. and no wait with net.. but still. As it stands tranq could use a buff itself to be able to compete with net as a single fish catcher.

I mean I just stay away from small fish because of it.

[Mercurial]

Tranq is underpowered, I would agree. It will probably be better when they implement whatever mechanic is design to transport sleeping oversized fish.

Large Net can consistently bring in ~7-10 ☆☆☆-fish per reload, and is definitely pretty strong.

[DDaylive]

Originally posted by Halfshell cat:

Feel like it needs a buff, it says its able to catch upto 7 fish while I only have the small version. If its intended to be a 1-2 fish gun then why does tranq gun exist? Tranq gun hits larger fish, sure.. and no wait with net.. but still. As it stands tranq could use a buff itself to be able to compete with net as a single fish catcher.

I mean I just stay away from small fish because of it.

it's good for Exploding Jellys also i think we are missing an upgrade the game seem to suggest if you sleep a big shark and try to gut it it seem, to show a sub telling you can't do it with out that.

[Halfshell]

I mean it wouldn't feel so bad if these weren't like.. the 1st two guns you get. And they are practically identical. Same ammo, range, etc. Tranq you wait before and with net you wait after (holding action). Nets still better because they stay netted longer and can technically catch multiple fish (even if its impossible).

Maybe if there were like.. bait? So you could lure small fish to net them?

[Misha]

I agree. The AOE on the net is so small that it has little benefit over the tranq gun.

[Mercurial]

Definitely disagree. As mentioned, it's very easy to nab 2 fish with one net. Plus, of course, the swarms of little fish at 1m-10m. Catfish, Lionfish at night, etc.

For the entirety of the game where I was trying to make as much money as possible, Net Gun was the easy choice for most profitable gun to bring along. It was only when I didn't really need more money, that killing predators became more important.

[Halfshell]

Idk making money isn't a problem, I'm making 2k easy and barely even into ch1. What I want from the netgun is to catch small fish. Most small fish aren't even in groups of 7 anyway, even if I had the patience to line it up theres no way I'm catching even 3. 3 of most small fish at high effort is barely worth an easy to catch midsized fish!

Furthermore.. aren't you agreeing theres no reason to use tranq? Sure they'll add in the large fish catch mechanic, but that still won't be early game (when you get tranq).

I'd make net much larger AoE, make it able to catch different capacity of different fish (so like 2 midsized fish max but same amount of small fish) and drop the ammo to 2. Tranq should be like 4-5 ammo. Upgraded guns can be adjusted from there! Even then nets still better than tranq but now theres a reason to use tranq.

Ideally with a lure feature, don't know why you don't like that idea. Would be really cool if different fish liked different lures so you'd have to do some kinda research to lure your target fish. Seems to really fit to me anyway.

Otherwise just don't give tranq early, give it once you can get the large fish catching mechanic. That way it can be the large fish gun and not have to compete at all.

[Mercurial]

Originally posted by Halfshell cat:

Most small fish aren't even in groups of 7 anyway, even if I had the patience to line it up theres no way I'm catching even 3. 3 of most small fish at high effort is

This would be pretty difficult with Small Net Gun, yeah.

Large Net Gun is pretty strong at catching tiny fish near the top, though. It pretty easily snags 3-4 per shot without much sweat.

Originally posted by Halfshell cat:

Furthermore.. aren't you agreeing theres no reason to use tranq? Sure they'll add in the large fish catch mechanic, but that still won't be early game (when you get tranq).

Yes. Right now, of the two economic weapons (Net and Tranq), Tranq is extremely underpowered. Net gun is far better.

Originally posted by Halfshell cat:

I'd make net much larger AoE, make it able to catch different capacity of different fish (so like 2 midsized fish max) and drop the ammo to 2. Tranq should be like 4-5 ammo. Upgraded guns can be adjusted from there! Even then nets still better than tranq but now theres a reason to use tranq.

These sound like pretty good changes. The idea that Tranq should be buffed for single-target use and Net should be nerfed for single target use is solid.

I only disagree with the idea that the net gun isn't good, or that it's the same as (or worse than) the tranq.

Right now, it's really just a far superior tranq.

There's pretty much 0 point in tranqing oversized fish at the moment, they wake up as soon as you melee them. Meanwhile, Net Gun instantly incapacitates pretty much any small or mid size predator(making it an effective weapon against comb jellies, etc), it retains "slept"-fish forever unless you leave the map, it fairly easily catches 2 ⭐⭐⭐-fish per shot (maybe an average of ~1.7, more like 2 with a Large netgun), has just as much ammo as the tranq, etc.

Basic video of how to hit multiple fish with net:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0uPDMrESo8

[Halfshell]

Originally posted by Mercurial:

I only disagree with the idea that the net gun isn't good, or that it's the same as (or worse than) the tranq.

Right now, it's really just a far superior tranq.

Oh my bad didn't mean to imply net wasn't good, yeah its way better than tranq no contest! Its just I wanna use it to catch small fish.. and it should have the "better for small fish" identity from the start imho.

Idk why I have this obsession with selling sushi made from small fish.