Gutberry quest is BS and needs to change.

[Commissar Tordez]

I was extremely proud of the fact that i lasted 12 hours and hadnt died or lost combat ONCE. but because this dumbass says so I have to go die and lose my character??? its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. please change this.

[Kittah has Claws]

LOL.. noob

[TormDK]

I agree with this somewhat crass sentiment, because the body you get transferred to does not get the gang rank up upgrades. So it becomes a negativ Deus ex machina moment which takes away player agency for no other reason than because a pop culture NPC requires it to progress.

[jaqueline lorn]

also how does this quest work if you go broken collar difficulty

[Mora]

You lose all the money too it sucks.

[Wolfenacht]

WEll.... depending on what this is, it kind of makes me wanna stop playing for now as I am going to rank up to gutberries level here soon. :(

[Commissar Tordez]

Originally posted by Wolfenacht:

WEll.... depending on what this is, it kind of makes me wanna stop playing for now as I am going to rank up to gutberries level here soon. :(

you technically only need one gang members approval to move up the ladder so you dont need to do her quest, but as a completionist it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks.

[Lau_Rad]

Hello, thanks for your comments. I've shared this discussion with the dev team, and this is being discussed internally. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on this topic.

[Locklave]

Glad to hear from a dev on this, reading this thread is concerning to me.

[Commissar Tordez]

Originally posted by Lau_Rad:

Hello, thanks for your comments. I've shared this discussion with the dev team, and this is being discussed internally. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on this topic.

maybe make an optional side objective to fool her into thinking you died and were reborn, it should take more time and be slightly difficult since your going out of your way to keep your character. i feel like that would be a good compromise.

[[FTI]Mizudori]

I felt the same way about this which is what caused me to bypass this quest and go with the other crew member's missions to make it to the endgame. Would have loved to done it for the achievement but will do it on a clean up run for any achievements I might be missing

[Commissar Tordez]

Originally posted by FTIMizudori:

I felt the same way about this which is what caused me to bypass this quest and go with the other crew member's missions to make it to the endgame. Would have loved to done it for the achievement but will do it on a clean up run for any achievements I might be missing

funny part about that is i did reapers full quest and didnt get the achievment for it, so who knows whats going on anymore.

[Nexus]

I was going to make a post too. Same situation as you, 0 death and she asked you to die... At first i wasn't happy because why would i die when my run is great and i had 0 problem with the combat system and all. So i was like ok let's die and see what happens after: You die, lose all your money, have a new character with a different build except the perma perks you've won, and you can't get back the physical apparence of your character you've choose to begin this new adventure

How on earth ppl who tried this quest before thought this quest was OK, this totally ruined the fun of the game especially when you have fun quest like Magnus or Vepps. All of this for a Pop culture ref about Game of Throne and what's even worse is that AT LEAST Jon Snow kept his body . Nah not happy at all with that quest, i have fun with that game, didn't thought i would but this, only wants me to finish the game and never tried it again...

For the ppl who read this and are with the gravity fist gang Just fight against Gutberry or don't do her quest chain, her quest is not worth it at all, at least right now...

edit: I'm stilll pissed off lol but dial it down with the pop culture refs, i'm not kidding that bad game design choice is the reason why this quest is bad because you wanted to do a pop culture ref for some reason.....

[Kittah has Claws]

I just got the game a week ago and was pretty far into it, since this thread I've stopped and am waiting to see what the devs do before I play more.

[uǝʇʇoᴚ]

I have the same problem as everyone else, 0 deaths in 12 hours. I will either skip this quest or stop playing till it is resolved.

[hubert]

Hey All! Dev here. Thanks a lot for this feedback. I see that this is the most controversial quest that we have in Space Prison.

We hope that you see that we are trying to make the quests as interesting and unique as possible, so the stories you experience in space prison are most entertaining and memorable. Because of that, some ideas, like the one with asking a player character to die, might be controversial. We can of course change this, if you would like us to. It won't be a fast change as we need to change the quest graph structure, change the dialogs, send those to localization for 9 languages and then test the changes properly. So this change may need at least 1-2 weeks to get into the game. But we can definitely do this, if you want this changed.

At the same time I wanted to tell you a bit more about this and ask whether you really want this change. So please hear me out and then you can decide on this.

We have designed the world of Space Prison and it's progression in a way that you can choose what to do - you can chooses which convitcts to challenge and you can choose which one to befriend. You can make your choice based on how much you like their look, their personality, their story or how they fit into your combat party.
The King in the North quest with Gutberry does require your character to die to progress, but at the same time, you don't need to complete it. It is tough choice to make. Do I want to sacrifice my character and see what Gutberry's story is? And get a unique reward after completing the quest? (REWARD SPOILER: after completing the quest chain for Gutberry you get a unique party member that you can't get in any other way in the game. SPOILER END). It is a sacrifice. But it is a sacrifice that you can do willingly or choose not to.
The game is designed in a way that you don't have to complete the quests if you don't want to as you only need 1 Respect to advance in a gang. Some players consider this as a meaningful gameplay choice. But at the same time you brought our attention to the fact that some of you do not like to have this choice in the game.

What do you guys think? Do you want us to leave this choice or do you want to have it removed?