Character creation

[Bondrewd]

Is this game really not going to get a character creation, I have to play as kirito or one of the characters from the series😒, why didn’t they just make it like fatal bullet, they had the perfect blueprint 🤨, what’s the point of online if we’re all just kirito’s or agil’s. Nothing unique?🤨, this might flop.

[Geek Ultra]

Originally posted by DEAD S.n.A.k.e.:

Originally posted by Geek Ultra:

SAO games are either mid or bad. you wont see a single SAO game enter the GOTY nominees. not in this lifetime.

It will happen, maybe not in this decade, but it will. Modern people are just too narrow minded to see that Kawahara is actually a *&^%$#@ genius and even so-called evangelist. One day, when almost everyone will stop thinking about SAO and Scamco will stop milking it (and, hopefully, even get rid of the IP rights for it for cheap), someone finally will be able to create a good *&^%$@ SAO game that maybe won't become a game of the year, but most certainly will be nominated (while it will easily get "VR game of the year" title if it will be a VR project).
Just you wait.

sorry it wont happen in this lifetime. SAO as a franchise is better as an anime/show, not as a game. they cant even pull a decent CAC feature let alone a full game that will stand toe to toe with triple A's like Elden ring, Baldur's Gate 3, God of War, etc.

[Balmung]

Even when it would happen. For what? To see how again a MMO get destroyed by the behavior of todays MMO players? No need for that. I have seen already enough problems in the FD test that came from players and what will getting even more worse after full release.

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

Originally posted by Balmung:

Even when it would happen. For what? To see how again a MMO get destroyed by the behavior of todays MMO players? No need for that. I have seen already enough problems in the FD test that came from players and what will getting even more worse after full release.

"I AM ANGRY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PLAY THIS GAME THE BEST THEY CAN!!!"
calm down Mr. AzureSky it seems like every post you make is doom and gloom
if you dislike how people are, stick with single player games XD

Originally posted by Soul:

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

I still think they'll add a character creation system in story progress
Sao games tend to do that awkwardly

Still my created character is practically Strea so I'm pretty much fine either way XD

No way they'd do that and not at minimum mention it somewhere before release

I always came in late on other SAO games but I'm not sure if they ever really advertised
their character customization options other than Fatal Bullet
where the original character was kind of a big deal

But I do know that every SAO game seems to have someone asking
"how to create character"

So it's probable that this has happened before
though if they really wanted to be scummy they could sell hairstyles and colors later +pain

[Balmung]

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

"I AM ANGRY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PLAY THIS GAME THE BEST THEY CAN!!!"
calm down Mr. AzureSky it seems like every post you make is doom and gloom
if you dislike how people are, stick with single player games XD

And that would make me one of millions more players who have been pushed out of online games by such players over the last 10+ years (I play since 25 years more or less online).

I know a lot of solo players who used to love online games and especially MMOs, but can't stand the way too many of today's players behave. Not team players, selfish (Me Me Only is a well known MMO meme), not able to learn, rush, are generally toxic, make their own rules, don't accept simplest existing rules (don't cheat, behave decently etc.) and sometimes have more fun taking the fun out of the game for others than having fun with the game itself.

Yeah, I'm sorry if I don't get along with such people.

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

Originally posted by Balmung:

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

"I AM ANGRY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PLAY THIS GAME THE BEST THEY CAN!!!"
calm down Mr. AzureSky it seems like every post you make is doom and gloom
if you dislike how people are, stick with single player games XD

And that would make me one of millions more players who have been pushed out of online games by such players over the last 10+ years (I play since 25 years more or less online).

I know a lot of solo players who used to love online games and especially MMOs, but can't stand the way too many of today's players behave. Not team players, selfish (Me Me Only is a well known MMO meme), not able to learn, rush, are generally toxic, make their own rules, don't accept simplest existing rules (don't cheat, behave decently etc.) and sometimes have more fun taking the fun out of the game for others than having fun with the game itself.

Yeah, I'm sorry if I don't get along with such people.

There's also the option of putting together your own community

just complaining about things won't help the situation
and what you view as toxic and awful may not actually be toxic and awful
you even fall under your own definition of what you don't like in some ways

Human nature dictates a desire for mastery over a craft regardless of what that craft is
as people experience a thing they will inevitably try to overcome that thing
sure there is some selfishness in that but there is also growth

and personally I wouldn't really want a world where everyone acts stuck up
trying to enforce nebulous etiquette rules against the masses

it's much more entertaining to experience people as they are
at least for me

[Rail]

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

Originally posted by Balmung:

And that would make me one of millions more players who have been pushed out of online games by such players over the last 10+ years (I play since 25 years more or less online).

I know a lot of solo players who used to love online games and especially MMOs, but can't stand the way too many of today's players behave. Not team players, selfish (Me Me Only is a well known MMO meme), not able to learn, rush, are generally toxic, make their own rules, don't accept simplest existing rules (don't cheat, behave decently etc.) and sometimes have more fun taking the fun out of the game for others than having fun with the game itself.

Yeah, I'm sorry if I don't get along with such people.

There's also the option of putting together your own community

just complaining about things won't help the situation
and what you view as toxic and awful may not actually be toxic and awful
you even fall under your own definition of what you don't like in some ways

Human nature dictates a desire for mastery over a craft regardless of what that craft is
as people experience a thing they will inevitably try to overcome that thing
sure there is some selfishness in that but there is also growth

and personally I wouldn't really want a world where everyone acts stuck up
trying to enforce nebulous etiquette rules against the masses

it's much more entertaining to experience people as they are
at least for me

take it as some guy that wants to vent, I realized his tendencies to write walls of text and hating on players and he's right in a way but his execution of using that right is really counterproductive.

I don't really mind how people behave when playing, I play with my friends, not randoms. But when buying, in the end the dlc market we all "enjoy" was shaped by greedy players that wanted to have advantages over others in form of microtransactions, so psychological networks were made by the devs to abuse these sales practices and it honestly makes me sick reading that everyone buys edition X and not the base one, because overall, these kind of decisions affect us all and keeps making the market worse and worse. The only thing I can do is not beeing part of the gang and preach.

[Balmung]

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

There's also the option of putting together your own community

Yeah, I know, I had some own communities over the years and also know the problems with them. At first you need to find the right people with a similar mindset about gaming, that alone is today difficult. At second you need to find people who play at the same time as you, that can be also challenging, especially if you are older and you self have more time as others.

just complaining about things won't help the situation
and what you view as toxic and awful may not actually be toxic and awful
you even fall under your own definition of what you don't like in some ways

Yeah, you are right with that. I rant way too much about that, I know that myself. One reason is because I have simple give up on that. If you have nothing to lose it's more easy to say it that way I do.

Human nature dictates a desire for mastery over a craft regardless of what that craft is
as people experience a thing they will inevitably try to overcome that thing
sure there is some selfishness in that but there is also growth

Right, and that is not even something bad. The thing is how they want to archive it, many want to go the easy way, that is the problem. The easy way leads to cheating, blaming other for their own faults etc.

and personally I wouldn't really want a world where everyone acts stuck up
trying to enforce nebulous etiquette rules against the masses

If there were no rules, there would be pure chaos in the world. Humans need rules to be able to live together at all without constantly being at each other's throats. But yes, we have too many rules now and often the wrong one instead of others we really need.

But nobody can really want people to stop following any rules at all. Back to games, many see in games “just games”, they are often not taken seriously enough, so there is nothing wrong with misbehaving in them, disregarding the operator's rules, etc.

it's much more entertaining to experience people as they are
at least for me

Not for me anymore, I have seen too many crap.

[Geek Ultra]

guys relax

[Balmung]

Originally posted by Rail:

take it as some guy that wants to vent, I realized his tendencies to write walls of text and hating on players and he's right in a way but his execution of using that right is really counterproductive.

Does it matter? I no longer believe in the illusion of being able to change anything through words. Most people have their entrenched point of view and don't budge an inch from it, they make fun of you immediately rather than even thinking about what you've said for a second. So it doesn't matter whether my statements are productive or not.

Do you know why I write a wall of text? Because when I say the same thing in fewer words, people interpret things into my statements that aren't there at all.

I don't really mind how people behave when playing, I play with my friends, not randoms.

And here is the biggest difference between us. I loved it 15+ years ago to play also with randoms. And yes, there were strange players back then too, but nothing like today. I had a lot of great experiences with randoms back then, especially in MMOs where you come across a lot of them. And then it get all more and more toxic and the good random players turned into solo players who don't want to play with other anymore.

But when buying, in the end the dlc market we all "enjoy" was shaped by greedy players that wanted to have advantages over others in form of microtransactions, so psychological networks were made by the devs to abuse these sales practices and it honestly makes me sick reading that everyone buys edition X and not the base one, because overall, these kind of decisions affect us all and keeps making the market worse and worse. The only thing I can do is not beeing part of the gang and preach.

Right, and I don't support that as well. At least by ignoring such content inside games, but also often by not buying this games. My backlog with games I already own is anyway way too big (some of the SAO games are in there), so I don't run out of game I can play without such content.

[Kairi5431]

Originally posted by Jon:

My observation of this situation is some old SAO fans are being discouraged from playing the game, because of a lack of CaC and an actual focus on Online(in sword art Online) elements.

Gonna be blunt, probably hard pressed to call them "fans" of sao if the only way they care about the game is if they can self insert themselves and are ready to hate on the characters anytime a game releases where you actually interact with sao even slightly close to how the ip was designed. Usually a fan of something actually cares about it and the content it has, but half of these pre-release steam forums have just been "wah wah I can't play as a cac and have to play as an actual character from the ip, bad game no buy, woest me". and I'm not gonna sugar coat it and pretend that isn't what's been happening.

[Louis Cypher]

Originally posted by Geek Ultra:

its like the creators are so obsessed with their mid characters, and cannot fully give the spotlight to the players.

^This

Fatal Bullet was awesome, a own unique Character that was integrated into the story. Every other SAO game is just stupid boring one-dimensional Kirito

[blaque_czar]

Originally posted by Bondrewd:

Is this game really not going to get a character creation, I have to play as kirito or one of the characters from the series😒, why didn’t they just make it like fatal bullet, they had the perfect blueprint 🤨, what’s the point of online if we’re all just kirito’s or agil’s. Nothing unique?🤨, this might flop.

This is the reason I'm skipping this, what a ridiculous decision when that would have served every element the best, whose ready to see 4 Kiritos on the battlefield playing multiplayer?

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

Originally posted by Kairi5431:

Originally posted by Jon:

My observation of this situation is some old SAO fans are being discouraged from playing the game, because of a lack of CaC and an actual focus on Online(in sword art Online) elements.

Gonna be blunt, probably hard pressed to call them "fans" of sao if the only way they care about the game is if they can self insert themselves and are ready to hate on the characters anytime a game releases where you actually interact with sao even slightly close to how the ip was designed. Usually a fan of something actually cares about it and the content it has, but half of these pre-release steam forums have just been "wah wah I can't play as a cac and have to play as an actual character from the ip, bad game no buy, woest me". and I'm not gonna sugar coat it and pretend that isn't what's been happening.

If I'm being entirely honest I kinda hated Kirito as a character till Alicization
he felt too manufactured and extremely inhuman most of his character traits
are extremely selfish but portrayed as extremely righteous and it never sat well with me

not to mention the pacing of the anime was ALWAYS such a mess that you never
really got to spend time with the characters and witness their own personal growth

However the World of SAO was always genuinely very interesting to me
every bit of world building that I've heard is absolutely fascinating

Like how do tails work in ALO are they free moving or do you control them
Could you theoretically use the Cait Sith Tail to hold a weapon?
what type of psychological effects does fulldive have on the users
because clearly it has some subtle effects (as shown by Leafa and Sinon)

The SAO Survivor school plot line in general
The Mechanics of the Underworld

that world building is what kept my interest and allowed
me to experience some of the other avenues of the franchise
So I'm going to argue against you when it comes to SAO fans

Kirito is such a difficult character to like & Asuna is the white bread of female protagonists
I'd argue Kirito is much better used as a legendary force of nature type of character
Something that you could fight after a secret quest line or something

though they kinda missed that shot in Fatal Bullet when they have
you interact with the group almost immediately in the story XD

but as they are normally handled I don't blame anyone for disliking them as characters
having said that I actually enjoyed them in Alicization Lycoris quite a bit
so maybe they just needed proper time to exist more naturally

[つかさ]

Originally posted by Geek Ultra:

sorry it wont happen in this lifetime. SAO as a franchise is better as an anime/show, not as a game. they cant even pull a decent CAC feature let alone a full game that will stand toe to toe with triple A's like Elden ring, Baldur's Gate 3, God of War, etc.

xD just seen this as first entry on last page and all i can say to this comment is
are you serious have you seen the way the gaming industry of non Indie games goes
nearly NO ONE is able to do those game seen them as a base is a joke and you could throw away at least 80% of all games done by AAA Studios if you want to compare them to those lol .

the game is "decent" and slightly overpriced but that seems to be the trend by now see the PS5 pro for example a console was always the cheaper gaming option and now they increase the price to hell as well or when it comes to games see all those games by Ubisoft all the same put on a new generated overworld but gameplay the same get a tower make some side missions challenge area boss repeat and they price it also like hell.

[Kairi5431]

Originally posted by Thine Very Own, Nemesis~:

However the World of SAO was always genuinely very interesting to me
every bit of world building that I've heard is absolutely fascinating

That I am fine with, my point is so much of the boards are acting like they can't be bothered to pick even one of 20+ other characters that isn't kirito who can be mained in this game, and then proceed to complain the game has no cac so they won't buy, that's the type of people I'm saying probably aren't fans. I can clearly see that you aren't one of those either because you already pre-ordered.