Loyalist Lord Issue

[gribelo]

So how on Earth Lord turns into loyalist? When it happens? And what is the chance? What are exact conditions? Are there any restrictions?

I awarded my older brother who had 50 loyalty and the next day his loyalty jumped to 100 and he turned into loyalist.. Nice!

Then I rescued my wife who had 50 loyalty and the next day her loyalty jumped to 100 and she turned into loyalist.. Nice!

By my younger brother is something else )) Since previous trick did not work with him I decided to go all in and test the feature, so I already awarded him 5 times, his mood is 100, he haves very many rings, he eats meat and drinks beer whole day and everyone runs around and entertains him, he lives better than God but guess what? He is not turning into loyalist..

Can anyone explain WTF is going on with that dude?

[MegaMidboss]

If that lord is a fanatic then they can't become a loyalist until their faith is lowered. You can lower faith at a temple with a sermon of doubt.

If that isn't the issue then maybe you should have your ruler be the one entertaining him instead of everyone in general entertaining them? Because the character might think your ruler is ignoring them. Characters also get good opinions about someone if they are taught about a topic, so educating them on a topic with your ruler should help.

To get more details on what a character's opinions and interests of another character is, click the heart icon at the bottom left menu when viewing a selected character, it should show your ruler as one of the characters that they have thoughts about. Just hover your cursor over the ruler's icon in the bottom left menu and it should show the thoughts that they have about each other. The opinion window is a bit confusing to read due to the layout, but it shows the opinion the selected character has of the hovered character in the top left and lists the reasons for that opinion on the middle left. The interest the selected character has of the hovered character is shown at the top right and the reasons for that interest amount on the middle right. I think interest serves double duty as to whether they are sexually attracted to a character or whether they find them smelly (possibly based on their relative manners skill). But, the confusing part is the bottom left and bottom right portions, these aren't the sum of the middle left and middle right list of opinions, but instead show the hovered character's opinion and interest of the selected character. These bottom left and right values are listed there so you don't need to navigate to the hovered character's opinion window to see their opinion values of the selected character.

If trying to undo their fanaticism and fixing the opinion and interest values they have of their ruler doesn't make them loyal, then beats me what the exact conditions around making someone a loyalist are.

[gribelo]

Thx for your effort to provide all these hints, but problem is that I understand game mechanics very well and I wouldnt make a post unless I checked everything three times and there is really something strange or mysterious going on in game.

Nope, he is not fanatic.. I was awarding him daily and everyone King included were entertaining him for test reasons, he is a friend to everyone. He is the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ happy person in a whole Norland ))

Only answer I have myself is:
Turning Lord into Loyalist is actually not easy task at all. There is some tricky hidden requirements and (or) chance is rather small and I just was super lucky with two other Lords.

[Lady MacBeth]

It's also possible that there is a hidden modifier that determines how easy or hard they are to go towards something.

Assuming that lord in question isn't just bugged too.

[gribelo]

Originally posted by Lady MacBeth:

It's also possible that there is a hidden modifier that determines how easy or hard they are to go towards something.

Assuming that lord in question isn't just bugged too.

Yeah, I was thinking about hidden modifier too.

[Chesher]

Originally posted by gribelo:

Originally posted by Lady MacBeth:

It's also possible that there is a hidden modifier that determines how easy or hard they are to go towards something.

Assuming that lord in question isn't just bugged too.

Yeah, I was thinking about hidden modifier too.

It's just that my brother is very smart, he understands that if he becomes a loyalist, then you will stop feeding and watering him and the life of God will end.