can we please remove the title limit

[Strong Black Man]

it just hurts to see my children just leaving the kingdom like whats the point of educating and sending them to another kingdom.

[Mezzo]

Most agree with you! The devs are aware and are figuring out ways to balance/fix this aspect of the game.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Slow Goat:

it just hurts to see my children just leaving the kingdom like whats the point of educating and sending them to another kingdom.

+1

Originally posted by Mezzo:

Most agree with you! The devs are aware and are figuring out ways to balance/fix this aspect of the game.

They should simply remove it from the Game, it was a bad Idea, which should be removed.

Players should always be able to decide for themself, how many Characters they can handle without Issue and should never be restricted by an arbitrary Limit.

[Sistermatic™]

Swap the role of king to the child and/or give title to your kids. Keep the old king/queen on as lords, ready to roll them out of the door as soon as they start to forget stuff, which they will. Trick is not to use up your title spots.

[perkypatdoll]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Swap the role of king to the child and/or give title to your kids. Keep the old king/queen on as lords, ready to roll them out of the door as soon as they start to forget stuff, which they will. Trick is not to use up your title spots.

But we don't want to strip the child's parents of their titles, who have served their country as well as they can.
At least until a safe haven for retired lords is prepared.
Currently,at best, a lord stripped of his title is homeless; at worst, he disappears the moment he is stripped and is shown as having died.

Five is not enough at all and seven is not enough.

[Jet]

yes pls... courtier expansion, anything would be preferable to this. if they become adventurers ok but i still want a dynasty not a max of 4 helpers

[terran976]

В гильдии была аналогичная система, когда управляемых пешек было немного, но родственники и их дети жили в поместье и были запасными пешками. Так было бы удобнее.

В идеале пешки должны уходить по причинам низкой лояльности/плохого настроения.
Если я могу им дать приличную жизнь, кормежку и использовать их условно для переписывания книг/обучения/как рыцарей, то зачем им уходить на мороз?

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by perkypatdoll:

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Swap the role of king to the child and/or give title to your kids. Keep the old king/queen on as lords, ready to roll them out of the door as soon as they start to forget stuff, which they will. Trick is not to use up your title spots.

But we don't want to strip the child's parents of their titles, who have served their country as well as they can.

You don't have to, you just need title space and give the kids titles. However, by swapping prince->king gives you a better king without losing functionality of the original king while he ages and starts losing his memory.

Alas, if you want to be sentimental about it...

[mk ☿ ｈｅｎｔａｉ ｈｏｋａｇｅ ☿]

I was sort of thinking that the title limit could be 5, but other characters could exist as knight like characters or take on other smaller roles and stay around, but then you have to house them in some way. kind of a complex solution, maybe just make no title limit but introduce more roles and jobs to do.

[perkypatdoll]

If you create a vacancy in the title slots, the 5 slots become 4.
Now, in my kingdom, two children are due to come of age at the same time, so the lordship must be run by three people.
In my kingdom, which has been stably managed according to the tutorial recommendations, there are two couples, i.e. four lords, with four children.
Unfortunately, your advice is not in line with the actual situation.

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by perkypatdoll:

If you create a vacancy in the title slots, the 5 slots become 4.

I've never seen it less than 5 slots so not sure how you get 4. Does that change with level of difficulty?

Now, in my kingdom, two children are due to come of age at the same time, so the lordship must be run by three people.

At same time? An unusual setup which IIRC, should only occur by selecting 3 daughters scenario (or you had some weird affair stuff going on lol, IDK - or twins which I've never seen yet??)

Even then, that's still only 4 family members with king and queen. So you've offered at least one title to a lord, a title that can be stripped and lord retained to manage what they were doing previously, including knowledge - while you promote family which is kind of what it's about IMHO.

It seems everybody is wanting to keep everyone as a permanent lord without any succession planning. I mean, I get what people are trying to do and why they want unlimited slots, but the reasoning is dubious given functionality is essentially the same except for the cost.

I can only imagine that people are trying to avoid paying for lords at end of 10th day because I can't think of any other reason to fill title slots tbh.

[Brutus43]

5 free slots, every extra slot costs 5% city productivity penalty (or something like that - would be trivial to code in) that you can disable penalty in options pre-game if you want

[perkypatdoll]

-It makes no sense to tell someone who does not want to strip an old contributor of his title to strip him of his title.
-On the issue of twins, my brother and I were close, had sex with our respective wives on the same day, had children on the same day and cousins came of age on the same day.

Anyway, it seems that short-term improvements have been announced, the slots are now 6 and there will be an aristocratic class under the lordship.
In the long term, it is also likely that the number of lords will be selectable.

[Anaztazioch]

remove - not really.
increase to 8 - yes
and lets make people past 55 not count as they pepsi

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by perkypatdoll:

Anyway, it seems that short-term improvements have been announced, the slots are now 6 and there will be an aristocratic class under the lordship.

Which, interestingly enough (and likely pure coincidence), is the number I suggested not 3 posts above the pinned thread announcement post. The 'sub' class was one I echoed yesterday too (not my idea but I certainly endorse it). So, either I'm freakishly influential (lol, nope) or the mindsets are in tune across the board. We'll still have to shuffle people around at some point, as we should, if we're true to dynasty.

I'm not personally keen on selecting slot count but if it's an option, so be it I guess.

[=]

There is an update in a few days will address this issue. The details are in the pinned comment but:

'Firstly, our priority will be to develop dynasty mechanics along with more advanced story generation mechanics as soon as the intense patching period is over. You will soon see this in our roadmap.

Secondly, to improve the situation as quickly as possible, we will make the following changes within a couple of days:

1. The number of lord slots will be increased to six.
2. Adult children, as well as lords who have been stripped of their titles (including the elderly), will not leave the settlement but will become "lesser lords". You will not be able to assign tasks to them, but the following actions will be possible:

- They can be granted a title.
- The elderly can teach others.
- Lesser lady can be married off.
- All lesser lords can be knighted.
- They can also be dedicated to the church – they will leave the province, but you will receive a corresponding number of rings based on their skills and improved relations with the church.
- They can be hired as free lords - first time with discount
- If there are more than three, the most unhappy among them will soon want to leave the province (this is to prevent having too many).
- They will eat and drink at the king's table, so their upkeep will be your responsibility.
- There will be mutual dislike between them and the titled lords due to envy of their position.'