NEED LUMBER

[bkmmoore16]

there's straight up not enough... wtf was this tested before release AT ALL???

[Seyo]

The tool tip top right and trouble notification at top left literally tells you how important 2-3 level 3 lumberjacks are early-game.

Wood just becomes neglible at mid-late game when you have proper facilities set-up. This is all discounting Wood Tribute from villages ;-;

[bkmmoore16]

you mean 5 lvl 5 lumberjacks? yep got those, trees don't grow back fast enough to supply the fields mid game, unless you don't build an army and keep pop low, and yes the 16 lumber from a trade contract helps but very little. there simply isn't enough to keep up with the ai.

[bkmmoore16]

i guess we're supposed to beat the game before chopping down all the trees on map, tis a race against time.

[Seyo]

Originally posted by bkmmoore16:

you mean 5 lvl 5 lumberjacks? yep got those, trees don't grow back fast enough to supply the fields mid game, unless you don't build an army and keep pop low, and yes the 16 lumber from a trade contract helps but very little. there simply isn't enough to keep up with the ai.

Damn that's actually crazy, I got supplied the entire game with one Wood tribute village and 2 Level 3 lumberjacks, even had to stop the 2nd one from running mid-game since there was no need for 200+ wood.

Are you sure you have 5 lvl 5 lumberjacks? Because you do realize that's around 500-600 base wood WITHOUT the management buff, which easily reaches 30% with a management level of 5 and 90% with a management level of 15

[Seyo]

Originally posted by bkmmoore16:

i guess we're supposed to beat the game before chopping down all the trees on map, tis a race against time.

I actually forgot to ask, but are you playing on one of those one unit of wood type maps? Because those are meant to have close to no wood in the first place

[bkmmoore16]

im late game with control of half the map and yes lvl 5, struggling to supply an army to go against the ai with 200 fighters, 3wood map tile, most of the trees on the map have been gone and i've been trying to turn off a couple of the jacks so they'll grow back but, like... it's not happening im just falling behind can't "repair" the fields and running out of paper because my lvl 15 management person died and i haven't seen a replacement in like 70 years. A forestry would be REALLY nice.

[Chibi PAWS]

Originally posted by bkmmoore16:

there's straight up not enough... wtf was this tested before release AT ALL???

I played many times in Silverhaven or Sparksville, never have trouble with wood supply~

[bkmmoore16]

I must have a bug then.

[herr_dechse]

The Varn book doubles our output. I run at late game with a single level 5 lumberjack but only manned by two people. The rest comes from tribute, trade and the Caravan.

It can be indeed stingy at times tho which I like.

[Seyo]

Originally posted by bkmmoore16:

im late game with control of half the map and yes lvl 5, struggling to supply an army to go against the ai with 200 fighters, 3wood map tile,

AFAIK the 200 man army with AI is a bug, considering an emperor trait (bigger ambitions, boosted productivity, boosted cap, boosted income) that NPC Kings can have exists, and even they rarely go over 100 man armies.

Originally posted by bkmmoore16:

most of the trees on the map have been gone and i've been trying to turn off a couple of the jacks so they'll grow back but, like... it's not happening im just falling behind can't "repair" the fields and running out of paper because my lvl 15 management person died and i haven't seen a replacement in like 70 years. A forestry would be REALLY nice.

Try reading the book halving field fertilisation costs, its a game changer and even reduces ratagaba wood costs to just 10 wood every 10 days, and you should stop logging once you clear a patch of forest on that side, you should instead let it regrow and chop down the other side teeming with trees so you can mass deforestation in the future when you really need it.

I actually agree though that a forestry would be really cool to have, considering it could be a book, and would allow active reforestation.

then you have the book reducing wood costs by 30%...

[Chibi PAWS]

Originally posted by herr_dechse:

The Varn book doubles our output. I run at late game with a single level 5 lumberjack but only manned by two people. The rest comes from tribute, trade and the Caravan.

It can be indeed stingy at times tho which I like.

Right.. I think that's why I never run out Wood because I always play as Varn ( it's because by default is Varn lol~ )

[bkmmoore16]

got all the books, it's probably too late to save tho, thought selling charcoal would be a good move, since the trees regrow, obviously we're not supposed to do that lol

[Laub]

Originally posted by bkmmoore16:

there's straight up not enough... wtf was this tested before release AT ALL???

Trade with neighbours or the trader, which is coming to your town. Otherwise, planing is the key.
Start a new game -> Change one village to pay tribute in wood. Every 4 days, you got ~100 wood.
I work with one lumberjack level 3 to refill the fields and build sometimes a building.

[bkmmoore16]

drop of water in an ocean my friend. built too much i guess. but thanks.

[EyeXombie]

I never have problems after building 3 level 2's then later I upgrade them to 3 when I start using paper and making spears and stuff. I usually always have 400 wood on hand. I was under the assumption that trees are slowly growing back because I play extra slow and I never really run out of wood unless I'm over building all at once.