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I'm Not Buying A Game Ever Again Mar 12 @ 8:52pm

The DS2 Trailer Comfimed it: Kojima went full woke and is brainwashed by Hollywood

debra wilson was the last straw... how can I play something starring somebody who is a symbol for DEI and inorganic, forced diversity? I don't think I even have to remind you how big of a disaster the last game she had a role in was (SS: KTJL). At this point, her presence in each game has become a DEI statement, and don't even try to come up with the weak arguement that "all characters in DS are based on real actors" cause you know none of them has been overused as a diversity pawn as much as her, and all the games she's been in are, for some "strange" reason, less than memorable/decent or outright failures.

I could cut kojima some slack and just assume for a moment that he was just so desperate to fulfill his big Hollywood fantasies and doesn't understand the significance of the people he's associating with, nor is he really aware of the nuances of the current cultural crisis in western civilization, but... I just can't defend him this time. Big japanese companies have already shown small but solid proof that they are infected by the woke virus and it shows in the decline, sanitation, and out of character diversity of their modern products, mainly Slopware Enix and Crapcom (and if you don't see the woke in their modern games, you're just an unaware tourist). And don't even get me started on Konami, SH2 R was just as much of a soulless, misinterpreted, and corrupted travesty as I fully expected, reason why I've zero hype for the MGS3 demake, or any big new AAA game really.

But getting back to the topic and to finish, the inclusion of this actress for forced diversity (by the higher ups running this gig behind the scene, ofc) is the kind of the antithesis of what made Kojima's work so full of soul, as the organic, non-woke diversity of the characters from MGS is one of the things that made the series so memorable and which should be a paragon on how to implement diversity in any video game (black people, gay people, people of all nationalities... and guess what, none of it came off as woke, and this was decades ago, mind you).

tl;dr, Kojima fell off, he's wokejima now.

I still will play and revisit MGS games, as I still have to play the last 2 entries, Revengence and V, but as far as post-MGS Kojima goes, he's dead to me...

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Ziyinzhuangyang Mar 13 @ 1:20am

MGSV sucks

I'm Not Buying A Game Ever Again Mar 13 @ 1:22am

Originally posted by Ziyinzhuangyang:
MGSV sucks

So I've heard...

MaGiik

Mar 13 @ 2:46am

you should go to a doctor i think

I'm Not Buying A Game Ever Again Mar 13 @ 10:41am

Originally posted by MaGiik:
you should go to a doctor i think

that doesn't mean much coming from someone with, well... that pfp... I wish people would at least try to have a conversation about the points I've laid out (who knows, I might be wrong) instead of just attacking my character.

Alt0153

Mar 13 @ 10:57am

oh god she isnt in it is she? literally token person who seems to be in every fail game lately

I'm Not Buying A Game Ever Again Mar 13 @ 12:00pm

Originally posted by Alt0153:
oh god she isnt in it is she? literally token person who seems to be in every fail game lately

my heart sank when I saw her... and she's bald ofc... it's over...

Ziyinzhuangyang Mar 13 @ 2:28pm

They already lost by going anti consumer and branding a patch and some DLC as a 'Directors Cut'

isaacdlukard Mar 13 @ 3:16pm

I have played most of kojima games.
now as a Mexican i hate forced representation sometimes it's more insulting than representing (looking at you spitting Latino .TLOU2.....)

But in kojima's case, if we debate this, you have to admit that he had a lot of DEI even before this became a movement.

Incest, gay , bisexual, androgynous, butch ,lesbian, characters, then white, black,Asian, Latino (this one escapes me TBH) and this is only on MGS2

i even dare to say Fortune looked as a trans woman (at first i thought she was one)

my point is that TBH, there is no point in categorizing a kojima game, what matters is the gameplay.

just my 2c

Neverminder has DEATH STRANDING DIRECTOR'S CUT

Mar 13 @ 5:28pm

no one cares, play a different game. kojima is 100,000 more relevant then you weirdo anti-wokeist creeps

I'm Not Buying A Game Ever Again Mar 13 @ 9:23pm

Originally posted by Neverminder:
no one cares, play a different game. kojima is 100,000 more relevant then you weirdo anti-wokeist creeps

Well, you cared enough to reply...
Kojima might be 100k more relevant, but I assure you he won't be a

Originally posted by isaacdlukard:
I have played most of kojima games.
now as a Mexican i hate forced representation sometimes it's more insulting than representing (looking at you spitting Latino .TLOU2.....)

But in kojima's case, if we debate this, you have to admit that he had a lot of DEI even before this became a movement.

Incest, gay , bisexual, androgynous, butch ,lesbian, characters, then white, black,Asian, Latino (this one escapes me TBH) and this is only on MGS2

i even dare to say Fortune looked as a trans woman (at first i thought she was one)

my point is that TBH, there is no point in categorizing a kojima game, what matters is the gameplay.

just my 2c

No, you got it wrong. "Diversity" and "DEI" aren't the same thing. As I explained before, I praised the diversity in Kojima's characters because it was organic, it obeyed the setting (and even boosted the historical/ political fiction at times), all done without ulterior motives or agenda (it's very difficult to find Japanese media that would include a certain group of people for tokenism's sake, at least that used to be the case). Basically, character's ethnicity generally made sense.

You can't call MGS woke games, it's not even a question. You seem to think that the appearance in MGS2 of the types of individuals you mentioned is something "woke." Back in the late 90s when MGS2 was being made, which do you think Kojima's priority was, including as many races of people as possible in his game or making a good game?

And sorry to hear that you fell that way about Fortune, she's one of my favorite characters, and I always found her highly attractive and interesting. Same as Olga, but I guess it's a matter of taste.

Originally posted by FTSO:
There is a big difference on make a game like Dragon Age: The Veilguard's where characters and dialogue stink activism, and do a game with a cast that bring different ethinicities, even if we all know some figures, but none is there to teach TIHS. I think Kojima is using the current Zeitgeist without take sides, the man even shove his merchandise ingame, Monster Energy, holograns about other games, some moments there are quite stupid, and his body is made of films, he needs Hollywood. X)

I don't care, if he can't read the room, it means he doesn't care enough. I mean, he's always been kind of a free spirit, but he carelessly involved himself with REAL LIFE politics this tine around, and he'll have to deal with the backlash, and I don't care if he made one my favorite franchises ever.