ex 1+ grenades effectiveness ?

[[DBH].Whismerhill.{SSgt}]

I don't have other weapons than Ex1+ & hematics right now
it seems EX 1+ grenades don't do much damage if at all ?

[Lonadan]

yes that is true theyy dont do alot of damage this you get better ones but just keep doing what your doinng and it gets earyer

[[DBH].Whismerhill.{SSgt}]

sad, it was kinda amusing to work toward getting those 1+ grenades, and I liked not having to rely on bag of bloods like for regular hematics

[ImHelping]

Every run. I tell myself I will save some piss grenades to see if they work on certain things blood grenades don't.

I can never remember if the answer was "No" or not.

Spare blood gets better/worse with the options for more backpack attachments later, which include more blood storage (or box free grenade storage. better battery power, etc).

Because blood grenades don't suck up nearly as much blood as later options.

[Marchand]

Ghosts do not like getting ♥♥♥♥ or piss thrown on them.

[Pronoun Paladin ☯]

I feel like poo-piss grenades could be removed from the next game without missing out on anything.

In all my playthroughs I've use it at the very beginning and once I unlock hemantic I never look back.

[Ceceli Δ]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Chunk Norris ☯:

I feel like poo-piss grenades could be removed from the next game without missing out on anything.

In all my playthroughs I've use it at the very beginning and once I unlock hemantic I never look back.

There are a lot of balacing issues in this game. Besides what you said, which is true, there's also the Bola Gun. That sht remains very effective throughout the whole game.

[ImHelping]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ceceli Δ:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Chunk Norris ☯:

I feel like poo-piss grenades could be removed from the next game without missing out on anything.

In all my playthroughs I've use it at the very beginning and once I unlock hemantic I never look back.

There are a lot of balacing issues in this game. Besides what you said, which is true, there's also the Bola Gun. That sht remains very effective throughout the whole game.

You run out of ammo REAL FAST if you keep using it without taking a nap in a base in the late game, but yeah it remains rock solid "worth your backpack cover protected space" all game along with the blood squirt gun that is more like a blood railgun at full charge.

[Ceceli Δ]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ImHelping:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ceceli Δ:

There are a lot of balacing issues in this game. Besides what you said, which is true, there's also the Bola Gun. That sht remains very effective throughout the whole game.

You run out of ammo REAL FAST if you keep using it without taking a nap in a base in the late game, but yeah it remains rock solid "worth your backpack cover protected space" all game along with the blood squirt gun that is more like a blood railgun at full charge.

I never ran out of ammo with it. You can neutralize everyone in a camp just fine. You can even find more Bola Guns on some camps.

[ImHelping]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ceceli Δ:

Oprindeligt skrevet af ImHelping:

You run out of ammo REAL FAST if you keep using it without taking a nap in a base in the late game, but yeah it remains rock solid "worth your backpack cover protected space" all game along with the blood squirt gun that is more like a blood railgun at full charge.

I never ran out of ammo with it. You can neutralize everyone in a camp just fine. You can even find more Bola Guns on some camps.

I have bad luck ever finding ones that can also work on BT, as you need the upgraded version for that. Why pick up essentially garbage when I can just start punching.

That said I consider "Three camp's worth of enemies" a normal amount of combat in an outing. Which is part of why I am always tempted by the ammo pouch option even though it takes up sooo much space

[Ceceli Δ]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ImHelping:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ceceli Δ:

I never ran out of ammo with it. You can neutralize everyone in a camp just fine. You can even find more Bola Guns on some camps.

I have bad luck ever finding ones that can also work on BT, as you need the upgraded version for that. Why pick up essentially garbage when I can just start punching.

That said I consider "Three camp's worth of enemies" a normal amount of combat in an outing. Which is part of why I am always tempted by the ammo pouch option even though it takes up sooo much space

I had stabilizer lvl 3, blood pouch with 8 slots and 2 grenade pouches. I carried 1 shotgun, 2 rifles and by the end of the game a grenade lancher and/or rocket launcher. I played it on Very Hard as well, so more Lions and whatnot.

[Mochaphilatte]

They aren't meant to do damage. Ex1 will disperse a group of BT's out of your way if you throw them from afar. I think it makes soldiers slip too. Poo grenade might stun them but I don't remember. There are uses for things that they don't tell you about. You're meant to just test them out on everything. Also if you get grabbed you can throw them down to keep the BT's off you. I usually just keep a blood grenade launcher on me and shoot at the ground once to escape like its a smoke bomb

[[DBH].Whismerhill.{SSgt}]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mochaphilatte:

They aren't meant to do damage. Ex1 will disperse a group of BT's out of your way if you throw them from afar. I think it makes soldiers slip too. Poo grenade might stun them but I don't remember. There are uses for things that they don't tell you about. You're meant to just test them out on everything. Also if you get grabbed you can throw them down to keep the BT's off you. I usually just keep a blood grenade launcher on me and shoot at the ground once to escape like its a smoke bomb

you realize I'm talking about Ex1+ not Ex1 ????
the former contains blood as well as piss
if all they do is act like Ex1 I fail to see why there's an Ex1+ .....

[abcd]

10kg of real weapons on my back, or <1kg of piss and samwater, in my sampouch, just in case I clumsily slam into a bt and don't have my hand on my zipper already? (I stg sam is such a clumsy pisser you'd think he uses a catheter every time. maybe his hog is just inhumanly massive and they don't have the blueprints for larger pants; maybe he's a robot and has a straw and has to wind a crank first. maybe his pants will disintegrate or the zipper will get stuck if he gets piss on them; who knows.)

anyway my cargo can survive a little ambient piss on the outside. still an s rank. it can't survive a single catcher drag, even if I nuke the catcher for millions of kuban right afterwards.

arguably it's the weapons that are useless for most of the game.

throw the water on the ground as soon as you're caught, and calmly walk to the edge of the pool.

[Protoman]

The excretion grenades only make enemies avoid that area, they're not supposed to do much damage.

[[DBH].Whismerhill.{SSgt}]

Oprindeligt skrevet af abcd:

10kg of real weapons on my back, or <1kg of piss and samwater, in my sampouch, just in case I clumsily slam into a bt and don't have my hand on my zipper already? (I stg sam is such a clumsy pisser you'd think he uses a catheter every time. maybe his hog is just inhumanly massive and they don't have the blueprints for larger pants; maybe he's a robot and has a straw and has to wind a crank first. maybe his pants will disintegrate or the zipper will get stuck if he gets piss on them; who knows.)

anyway my cargo can survive a little ambient piss on the outside. still an s rank. it can't survive a single catcher drag, even if I nuke the catcher for millions of kuban right afterwards.

arguably it's the weapons that are useless for most of the game.

throw the water on the ground as soon as you're caught, and calmly walk to the edge of the pool.

right your comment made my day
but I mean that doesn't require EX1+, regular EX1 should work as well for that
so again, kind of a moot point