Is ranked just competing with cheaters? (yes it is)

[sumolagann]

I am curious how many cheaters there are since someone just announced they are going to cheat and freeze the clock due to not being able to headshot with a mazer gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxYWup8NPs This guy gets in 0-1% with this time, I have 0:58 on it and don't break top 10%, 10 seconds faster than him. Strat was similar.

Either player count is so low and I am competing against great speedrunners, or there are a bunch of clock freezers. Can't check times, but i'm sure it's a load of 00;00;01 like on a lot of games. You think they would have a thing to detect if someone froze the clock and nullify their score... Can we get a soft ban on people getting lower than 10 seconds or something? This is why playing anything with scoreboards on pc is annoying, the top 100 are cheats, and almost no devs bother to do anything about it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2794437696

[cyäegha]

devil's advocacy; it's a provisional ranking, as in "would have been in the top percentile at the time"

[sumolagann]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

devil's advocacy; it's a provisional ranking, as in "would have been in the top percentile at the time"

I understand that, but I don't see much room for improvement, maybe 5-10 seconds at best. There was almost no slowdown with my run, last jump jetpacked down from the middle, landed perfectly infront of the delivery room and sam even bumped the wall causing him to fall perfectly without stagger somehow. I suppose the player count could be so low that only hc speedrunners are playing it, but eh... I'd be curious to see the times

[Lord Vampair]

Originally posted by sumolagann:

Originally posted by cyäegha:

devil's advocacy; it's a provisional ranking, as in "would have been in the top percentile at the time"

I understand that, but I don't see much room for improvement, maybe 5-10 seconds at best. There was almost no slowdown with my run, last jump jetpacked down from the middle, landed perfectly infront of the delivery room and sam even bumped the wall causing him to fall perfectly without stagger somehow. I suppose the player count could be so low that only hc speedrunners are playing it, but eh... I'd be curious to see the times

Don't mind... The game is already full of cheaters ready to ruin every score, as always.
I have designed a perfect route to make the best time and my score was 1%-10% too.
That's why every offline game has to reward you only with offline contents, like all style games.
It's a pity... You can't even check other players results...

[SLT]

Originally posted by sumolagann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxYWup8NPs This guy gets in 0-1% with this time

But he gets 1-10% in the video not 0-1%
There is even a comment about it.

[Crimsomrider]

When it comes to PC as a gaming platform, it is without a doubt an absolute certainty that there will be those who play the game with trainers. Especially when there are websites which offer monthly and even lifetime subscriptions to create and update custom tailored trainers for every game out there.

So yes, you most likely are competing with cheaters. Such is the price of freedom on PC. I personally enjoy Ranked, but I only do it for the cool looking banners.

[sumolagann]

Originally posted by Maho:

Originally posted by sumolagann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxYWup8NPs This guy gets in 0-1% with this time

But he gets 1-10% in the video not 0-1%
There is even a comment about it.

His bar hits it, you're technically right but i'm guessing he's just barely off.

[sumolagann]

Originally posted by Crimsomrider:

When it comes to PC as a gaming platform, it is without a doubt an absolute certainty that there will be those who play the game with trainers. Especially when there are websites which offer monthly and even lifetime subscriptions to create and update custom tailored trainers for every game out there.

So yes, you most likely are competing with cheaters. Such is the price of freedom on PC. I personally enjoy Ranked, but I only do it for the cool looking banners.

I'll just be going for the banners now, but trying to get the best time is more fun for me so that's ruined. I even gave up and settle for top 10% knowing in the back of my mind there are cheaters, but that's seeming pretty pointless now. Not going to push for 0-1% scores to be in the top 30% still lol

[Lord Vampair]

Originally posted by Crimsomrider:

Such is the price of freedom on PC

That's why anti-cheats were invented...
Yesterday I did one try to fight the BT outside Mama's Lab: on hard, I did it in few minutes with no damage.
Ranked Score? 95%-100%.
Game Score: "S".

I didn't expect to be above 30%-50% because on "hard" it is pretty easy boss but 95%-100% with a no damage is ridicolous.

It happens with every ranked.
Devs could think to do something about cheaters, especially with unique score rewards.
If players want to use trainers or cheats with offline contents, it's fine. They can set offline mode playing as they as want.
But using cheats playing online ruining score and other players experience has nothing do with "price of freedom" or "Your game, your rules": it's not "your game" anymore when you play with others.

[Berghain]

I was gonna open up a post asking this very same thing.

I'm not an unsportsmanlike person at all. I have a preference for single player games (and thus the interest for competitive/online ones are close to zilch) but when I do, I can attest that I actually perform quite well in them.

I'm not one to blame lag, hardware, other players, my dog, or my neighbor or anyone/anything but myself when confronted with mistakes. I can rationally analyse what I'm doing wrong, and then correcting course of action as needed.

This - all that's being mentioned - is exactly why I'm finding the ranked portion of Death Stranding absolute unfair garbage. And I'm finding it difficult to enjoy the additions made to Director's Cut tied to rewards/events. To the point of preferring the original, which had none of that.

I've been completing ranked drills around 8-11 times each, sometimes more.
I improve my scores gradually, learn the maps and positions of targets and how to best approach headshots/takedowns. Each new run I perform better than the last, up until a point I eventually, virtually, make no mistake.
Hitting every target without wasting ammo, taking the fastest, most efficient route to the finish while at it. Almost like an adaptive choreography.
It's still not enough to rank between the 1%.

Reaching 1% is proving impossible. The only conclusion I've been able to come to (after humbly and just being honest with myself KNOWING I excelled ranked drills and still somehow end up getting ranked around the 1-10%) is that cheating is definitely at hand here.

[sumolagann]

I sent an email, so see if they get rid of cheat scores to some degree at least. Or they can just say they can't do anything. : P

[sumolagann]

Originally posted by Lord Vampair:

Originally posted by Crimsomrider:

Such is the price of freedom on PC

That's why anti-cheats were invented...
Yesterday I did one try to fight the BT outside Mama's Lab: on hard, I did it in few minutes with no damage.
Ranked Score? 95%-100%.
Game Score: "S".

I didn't expect to be above 30%-50% because on "hard" it is pretty easy boss but 95%-100% with a no damage is ridicolous.

It happens with every ranked.
Devs could think to do something about cheaters, especially with unique score rewards.
If players want to use trainers or cheats with offline contents, it's fine. They can set offline mode playing as they as want.
But using cheats playing online ruining score and other players experience has nothing do with "price of freedom" or "Your game, your rules": it's not "your game" anymore when you play with others.

I did it on very hard with 200 or so damage I think, 30-50%. More people must have played on very hard. maybe hard has a low amount of people.

[Zed]

I'm so glad I don't care about ranks .. because when a game creates ranks there's always going to be those who will look for and often find a way to break true rank scores.

[Mountain Man]

Is ranked just competing with cheaters?

Of course it is.

[d0x360]

I imagine it's mostly a player count issue at this point. Most people who played it likely didn't come back to play again. I'm sure there are some cheaters but not enough to skew the results very much

[Uvirith]

You play on PC. There is no PC-Game without Cheaters. Period.