where do you park the 80 GB needed for this game?

[sadge]

I have 3 days to decide whether to drop 18 on IG's sale but I don't really have the space on my internal SSD, do you think it would run fine off an external SSD if it was connected via USB 3.0 ?

Not sure if there's a way to partition some of the less important install files (ie maps I'm nowhere near) to a slower external HDD until needed. That would really make things a lot easier.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm actually saving money with all these steam sales. I like the idea I get to keep my game rights if my hardware is stolen/burned but at the same time, cartridges or discs or whatever consoles use nowadays, means you don't need to worry about customizing a PC. I sometimes wonder what the associated cost breakdowns are of needing to build a massive SSD network to have an easily accessible and interchangeable game librasry.

Like in the long run maybe it's cheaper and less prone to accidents than keeping a folder of discs (do PS5 games use DVD-type memory?) but at the same time the investment in SSD memory really does add a hidden price tag. Probably still cheaper than a disc collection given the massive discounts in digital content but still something to think of.

I was amazed how much faster usb 3.0 transferred date compared to usb 2.0 (used to take much longer to shuffle anime around) but it still feels slow now that videogames are measured in the tens-of-gigabytes.

Warcraft 3 was only 3 GB before Reforged... Diablo 2 was 1.9gb ... warcraft 2 was only 676 megabytes... Im' feeling very nostalgic here. I remember when that used to seem big because toon episodes were traded at 480p and were around 50mb each. Hardware demands just seem to bloat I realize they're better but it still feels like bloat when you compare platforms or RPGmaker style stuff.

Like are there ways they could be cutting down the size of Death Standing but aren't? Like maybe there could be an optional install with lower graphics for those willing to sacrifice them on an initial playthrough, or is that just something you change in settings to lower stress on your graphics card but the space occupation remains the same?

I remember with diablo 2 installing stuff like cinematics was optional if you'd already seen them and didn't want to re-watch - you could uninstall them to save space on your computer. Wish modern games heavy on the cutscenes had that option, like I could wait until I'm nearing that point to download them, and then uninstall them until my next playthrough.

That might be too complicated for steam to implement from console ports but I really hope that's something we see in the future.

[MonkeyGamesVR]

Well I understand you want to see thing diverent in the future and longing for to be, me as well. But, you want to at least have internal hdd or ssd for you system to run correctly for the game to run. I have it on a second internal ssd and runs perfect. The game created nowadays are a little diverent then before because of reasons. Theoreticly it is possible to 'tune down' any game but as we all know it woulden't be as plausible to gain in function for developers and sales and not the least, how the game looks. For that matter, it is ibly getting more intresting how it would developed in the near future. It might be we will get a whole other dimension in what 'looks' very diverent and how a game is setup likewise.

If you take a look and investigate what VR will be in the future, you be very amazed how it will be. Developers are experimenting with 'liquid' based solutions to store data, in fact it is already there and need to be developed a bit more. How it will play out for us consumers, only god knows right now, it can goes any way. But the future is already here and it 'looks' intresting enough to be very exited about. Though it can turn out to gain against what scientists and developers was hoping to be and resulting in what we all are afraid of.

AI (Artificial Intelligence) for example is one of thing we could be excited about, but on the other hand we olso have to be very careful to 'play' with it!

But to come back at the beginning of your post. The best way to play this wonderfull game is to save up some mony and get a ssd or hdd to be able to see the most out of this game.
It is worth the extra. There are cheap hardware to get or second hand if you will. Maby get the game now and download it later when you have the abillity to put it on the drive you get later. I might think it would be possible to put it on an 'external' for later I am not sure I have never try that before. Maby you want to try that yourself. 👍

[Zloth]

!? Are you uninstalling games once you're done with them??

At least in the USA, a single 1TB drive costs about $60, the same as one AAA game. It would be able to hold ten games of this size with plenty of space left over. As long as you don't keep downloading games without uninstalling them, you should have plenty of room. (Hence why developers/publishers aren't burning much time on shrinking them.)

[Le Whopper]

I park the 80GB 70GB on my 4TB SSD.

But i must say i'm pretty confused about your post. It sounds like you have some old notebook that isn't worth the upgrade and you use (different) external drives to install games on it. I hope that's not the case.
And using external SSDs with USB is only really useable with 3.1 oder 3.2 because 3.0 has a realistic tranfer rate of 450MB/s and that is still pretty fast but using it via SATA is much faster.
But if you mean that problem that i also had with many "small" SSDs ranging from 64-256GB in your computer. I just bought one big SSD, moved all the files from the others and removed all the others after that. Nowadays i only have three SSDs in my computer. One for Windows, One bigger one for games and the biggest one for games and storage.

[RGBPlays]

you need to use a pci bracket to add some nvme slots to your build dont put it on a slow drive

[Mouz]

It's stored safely in a 1TB nvme SSD. If you are still using one of those old 128gb ssds that came with any badget PC then it's time to either upgrade to a new one or transfer your windows and everything into at least a 512gb nvme SSD. Then get a 2-4TB HDD to have as spare space for all games that are on 'pause' for the time being and don't need to be in the fast drive.

[John Thicc 3 - Parabelly]

On gamebillet it's even cheaper right now.

[sadge]

Originally posted by MonkeyGamesVR:

Well I understand you want to see thing diverent in the future and longing for to be, me as well. But, you want to at least have internal hdd or ssd for you system to run correctly for the game to run. I have it on a second internal ssd and runs perfect.

But to come back at the beginning of your post. The best way to play this wonderfull game is to save up some mony and get a ssd or hdd to be able to see the most out of this game

I guess I'm wondering how an external SSD would stack up against an internal HDD

Originally posted by Zloth:

!? Are you uninstalling games once you're done with them??

Haven't exactly finished any, but some I've decided to put off, i used to uninstall but now I just shift them to an external 8tb HDD

Originally posted by Zloth:

At least in the USA, a single 1TB drive costs about $60, the same as one AAA game. It would be able to hold ten games of this size with plenty of space left over. As long as you don't keep downloading games without uninstalling them, you should have plenty of room

my PC's internal memory is fully SSD but it's only 475 GB so I use external HDDs (acquired 1tb/2tb/3tb/8tb over the years) for storage

Originally posted by Le Whopper:

I park the 80GB 70GB on my 4TB SSD.

sounds nice, internal or external?

Originally posted by Le Whopper:

But i must say i'm pretty confused about your post. It sounds like you have some old notebook that isn't worth the upgrade and you use (different) external drives to install games on it. I hope that's not the case.

it's a desktop I bought 3 years ago, my old PC had around 900 GB in HDD for storage, I wanted fast booting so I figured half the size might be okay since my externals still worked, would just mean I'd have less available for quick-access and maybe focus me on a smaller amount of anime/games

Originally posted by Le Whopper:

And using external SSDs with USB is only really useable with 3.1 oder 3.2 because 3.0 has a realistic tranfer rate of 450MB/s and that is still pretty fast but using it via SATA is much faster.

didn't know about 3.1 and 3.2 guess that's something to look into, I guess it emulates the speed you'd get if the SSD were attached to the motherboard directly and not cabled?

Originally posted by Le Whopper:

But if you mean that problem that i also had with many "small" SSDs ranging from 64-256GB in your computer. I just bought one big SSD, moved all the files from the others and removed all the others after that. Nowadays i only have three SSDs in my computer. One for Windows, One bigger one for games and the biggest one for games and storage.

I don't know if there'd be space for more besides what this came with, as there's no obvious expansion bays.

I'm afraid to open it up, last time I did that the fan stopped running when I closed it up and rebooted, now it's just collecting dust.

[Zloth]

Originally posted by SCAP:

Originally posted by Zloth:

!? Are you uninstalling games once you're done with them??

Haven't exactly finished any, but some I've decided to put off, i used to uninstall but now I just shift them to an external 8tb HDD

Ah ha. OK, look, if there's a game you haven't played in a year, it's highly unlikely you ever will play it again. Uninstall it.

If, by chance, you do decide to play a game that you uninstalled, Steam will let you re-download it. Depending on your ISP, you may have to pay a little to do that, but I would really hope that's nothing compared to the cost of the game itself.

P.S. That was some internal SSD from NewEgg. 400GB is kinda small for a boot drive. Windows isn't tiny and your save files, which don't get uninstalled when you remove a game, can sometimes be pretty large all by themselves. (Divinity: Original Sin 2 has 15MB save files, for instance.)

[MonkeyGamesVR]

Are you going to post again when you try it on external drive, because it makes me curious if it works out and be fine to play :)

[sadge]

Originally posted by Zloth:

400GB is kinda small for a boot drive. Windows isn't tiny and your save files, which don't get uninstalled when you remove a game, can sometimes be pretty large all by themselves. (Divinity: Original Sin 2 has 15MB save files, for instance.)

I thought Steam would store save files online to save space on our PCs

[VisciousFishes]

Originally posted by SCAP:

Originally posted by Zloth:

400GB is kinda small for a boot drive. Windows isn't tiny and your save files, which don't get uninstalled when you remove a game, can sometimes be pretty large all by themselves. (Divinity: Original Sin 2 has 15MB save files, for instance.)

I thought Steam would store save files online to save space on our PCs

Nope. Game saves are generally on your computer but Steam will back them up on your account. You can use Gamesave Manager or similar software to backup those games that don't support steam cloud.

[Crunchy[Daz]]

Diablo 2 allowed you to copy the movies from the CD to your PC so you didn't need to play them off the CDs. They gave you the option of taking up more space on your PC, not less.

Some games use compression, some don't. Game engines are different. Quality is diffferent. There's many reasons why one game can seem to take up very little space compared to another.

Also, 400GB is not small for a boot drive. Windows takes less then 50GB. You'd be fine with a 250GB boot drive, don't even need that much.

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by SCAP:

where do you park the 80 GB needed for this game?

On one of your gaming PC's storage devices. Which you do by notattempting to engage in serious gaming on a laptop or cellphone, or tuber, etc.