DR 2.0 VS EA WRC

[Kozary]

I have come to the conclusion this game is not a sim and refunded it as dirt rally 2.0 just has so much more feedback from the cars it just "feels" more realistic even if WRC is more advanced it just plays way better with a controller vs a wheel and that speaks volumes about what kind of game it is. I only drive in the men's class of RWD as well keep this in mind

My IRL experience is with supras 350-700hp and yes i used to take them off road and bush bash them and gravel drift supras with a big single and it was scary asf. I also have no issues running on par lap times on Assetto to what can be done IRL at my local track. Also had an E30 i absolutely thrashed the F out of i question how i survived that era of my life sometimes.

Forum posts are negative, reviews are bad. Codemasters really made a bad game here and some bad choices with EA and UE4 engine.

DR2.0 runs ~150fps in 5120x2880 max settings and looks very nice.
WRC runs 70-90fps in 4k with CPU intensive settings off like track cover, reflections and looks horrid
Both games work pretty good with custom SLI profiles.

[Paradox1126]

I think everything codies put out was mediocre. I started with dr2 and after 200 hrs left it for RBR and KT's WRC.

I bought EA WRC at launch and while I completely agree with you that it's not a sim I would take it over dr2 any day of the week. I'm talking pure driving here. Dr2 has it beat with multiplayer and rally cross additions but I like the immersion factor in WRC moreso.

As for the reviews, well, I don't have a single bad thing to say about the game other than it's not a sim. Really hate they pushed it to the casual crowds.

[Kozary]

one of the biggest issues with dr2 is the lack of wheelspin so every car feels like it has no power

[Mr Deap]

Watch onboard between both game & compare it to real life at 0.25 speed.

DR2.0 feel like any sim.

EA WRC is easier to drive

Only trust real data.

[Tripokaridos]

My only IRL xp is from Rally scool Cars. And none of these games DR2.0, WRC, Kyloton WRC, or RBR are like IRL.
Other than that . RBR is full of mods that some are great and others not, its something way different than modern games. WRC Generations physics are some times amazing and some times not, also there are to ME many many problems about FFB wheel, stutters , no support etch etch , But has the best Tracks. DR2.0 to me feels more Sim than EA WRC and DR1.0 feels more SIM than both Dr2.0 and EA WRC . but not on all tracks ... The Only game that was Closer to sim in my opinion was the SLRE and that only on small cars with low hp .
The problem to some people is that they think the more Boat Feeling the most realistic it is , thats not true , same Car same Stage that i run it was way way different depending the surface of the gravel if it was already driven or not , if i follow the lines or not , if it was raining days before etch etch . So some times the car act like a boat but if the road was already driven and follow the lines it was very steady and EASIER TO DRIVE .
If they Ever lazer Scan some sections of the stages and also meassure all cars telemetry then yeah it would be a start.
PS. WRC generations to me if anyone asks why it didnt work , When the car is full stoped and the wheel fully turned left or right , by pressing the throtle the whel must pull back to the center like IRL , but it didnt ( to me ) others say it has great FFB .

[Kozary]

Pretty good reply trip. Realism is highly subjective as well so i tend to think that the game with the best feedback and your own personal expectations of what a car should do with X input is what makes it realistic when it comes to high quality sim games.

I remembering inputting my IRL wheel alignment to DR2.0 and then tweaking it and later copied back to my street missile, the game reflected the IRL changes very well. I was pretty impressed by that so i think a lot of things are done right in that game as well as some things not

[euphoreonz]

Originally posted by Paradox1126:

I think everything codies put out was mediocre. I started with dr2 and after 200 hrs left it for RBR and KT's WRC.

I bought EA WRC at launch and while I completely agree with you that it's not a sim I would take it over dr2 any day of the week. I'm talking pure driving here. Dr2 has it beat with multiplayer and rally cross additions but I like the immersion factor in WRC moreso.

As for the reviews, well, I don't have a single bad thing to say about the game other than it's not a sim. Really hate they pushed it to the casual crowds.

having a laugh if you think KT's WRC is better than EA WRC. One attempt and it's already a million times better. The sound in KT's, disgusting! After how many attempts? Only thing going for that game is some stages, which are fake anyway.

[euphoreonz]

Originally posted by Mr Deap:

Watch onboard between both game & compare it to real life at 0.25 speed.

DR2.0 feel like any sim.

EA WRC is easier to drive

Only trust real data.

eh, DR2.0 is no more accurate or realistic than EA WRC, it has its drawbacks as well.

[Doohie]

Originally posted by Kozary:

I have come to the conclusion this game is not a sim and refunded it as dirt rally 2.0 just has so much more feedback from the cars it just "feels" more realistic even if WRC is more advanced it just plays way better with a controller and that speaks volumes about what kind of game it is.

My IRL experience is with supras 350-700hp and yes i used to take them off road and bush bash them and gravel drift supras with a big single and it was scary asf. I also have no issues running on par lap times on Assetto to what can be done IRL at my local track. Also had an E30 i absolutely thrashed the F out of i question how i survived that era of my life sometimes.

Forum posts are nothing but negative, reviews are bad. Codemasters really made a bad game here and some bad choices with EA and UE4 engine.

DR2.0 runs ~150fps in 5120x2880 max settings and looks very nice.
WRC runs 70-90fps in 4k with half the settings off like track cover and looks horrid
Both games work pretty good with custom SLI profiles.

You gotta make kidding me,
....game is not a sim....plays .... with a controller.....

[Kozary]

Originally posted by Doohie:

Originally posted by Kozary:

I have come to the conclusion this game is not a sim and refunded it as dirt rally 2.0 just has so much more feedback from the cars it just "feels" more realistic even if WRC is more advanced it just plays way better with a controller and that speaks volumes about what kind of game it is.

My IRL experience is with supras 350-700hp and yes i used to take them off road and bush bash them and gravel drift supras with a big single and it was scary asf. I also have no issues running on par lap times on Assetto to what can be done IRL at my local track. Also had an E30 i absolutely thrashed the F out of i question how i survived that era of my life sometimes.

Forum posts are nothing but negative, reviews are bad. Codemasters really made a bad game here and some bad choices with EA and UE4 engine.

DR2.0 runs ~150fps in 5120x2880 max settings and looks very nice.
WRC runs 70-90fps in 4k with half the settings off like track cover and looks horrid
Both games work pretty good with custom SLI profiles.

You gotta make kidding me,
....game is not a sim....plays .... with a controller.....

gotta be kidding me an illiterate here is a TLDR version

The game feels crap with a wheel but good with a controller i do not know why i even tested this but especially VS DR2.0.

I spend/spent most of my time on DR1/2 and AC.

I tried to separate some key points so you can understand from one ree ree to another

I think i am just peeved this game is not DR3.

[curtyuiop]

Well written Kozary, this game sucks! Extra helpful award will be given to this discussion.
edit: There are more 'in game' for dirt rally 2.0 which is 5 years old!!!

[Paradox1126]

Originally posted by euphoreonz:

Originally posted by Paradox1126:

I think everything codies put out was mediocre. I started with dr2 and after 200 hrs left it for RBR and KT's WRC.

I bought EA WRC at launch and while I completely agree with you that it's not a sim I would take it over dr2 any day of the week. I'm talking pure driving here. Dr2 has it beat with multiplayer and rally cross additions but I like the immersion factor in WRC moreso.

As for the reviews, well, I don't have a single bad thing to say about the game other than it's not a sim. Really hate they pushed it to the casual crowds.

having a laugh if you think KT's WRC is better than EA WRC. One attempt and it's already a million times better. The sound in KT's, disgusting! After how many attempts? Only thing going for that game is some stages, which are fake anyway.

Yep I'm quite aware about the lack later sound but the driving is superb.

Asphalt is amazing to drive on

FFB is second to only RBR which is still the king of rally sims and quite honestly the only one.

Stages are fantastic but I will agree that WRC has upped their game tremendously from dr2 which the stages were garbage.

Handling of the cars is great. Cars have lateral movement and inertia seems to be on point.

Throttle modulation is 100 times better than the point and click throttle in WRC.

The game is just objectively harder in good ways which I appreciate. EA was made to make 12 yr olds happy. I mean the discord was littered with them at launch talking about how they don't want to sweat to play a racing game.. whhhhat.. it's all about being faster but they're complaining about having to be faster. Wack!!

And let's get honest. Both games had junk launches with their own specific problems. At the end of the day I enjoy and play all..

Lastly... Join my club ;) links are in my profile

[DmAnd]

EA WRC could have been great if they upgraded the DR2 game engine.
Unreal Engine is a mess for racing sims and especially VR racing sims.

[Doohie]

Originally posted by Kozary:

Originally posted by Doohie:

You gotta make kidding me,
....game is not a sim....plays .... with a controller.....

gotta be kidding me an illiterate here is a TLDR version

The game feels crap with a wheel but good with a controller i do not know why i even tested this but especially VS DR2.0.

I spend/spent most of my time on DR1/2 and AC.

I tried to separate some key points so you can understand from one ree ree to another

I think i am just peeved this game is not DR3.

You've really got to be kidding me....
you condemn games....take a look at your played hours...really !!!

You played
AC - 29.3 hours
DR1 - 20.8 hours
DR2 - 6.8 hours
EA WRC barely - 3.7 hours

Says enough about your credibility.

[Socks with jandals]

Originally posted by Kozary:

one of the biggest issues with dr2 is the lack of wheelspin so every car feels like it has no power

Every car I drove in dr2.0 had plenty of wheel spin, apart from the cars with like 60hp.

[euphoreonz]

Originally posted by Paradox1126:

Originally posted by euphoreonz:

having a laugh if you think KT's WRC is better than EA WRC. One attempt and it's already a million times better. The sound in KT's, disgusting! After how many attempts? Only thing going for that game is some stages, which are fake anyway.

Yep I'm quite aware about the lack later sound but the driving is superb.

Asphalt is amazing to drive on

FFB is second to only RBR which is still the king of rally sims and quite honestly the only one.

Stages are fantastic but I will agree that WRC has upped their game tremendously from dr2 which the stages were garbage.

Handling of the cars is great. Cars have lateral movement and inertia seems to be on point.

Throttle modulation is 100 times better than the point and click throttle in WRC.

The game is just objectively harder in good ways which I appreciate. EA was made to make 12 yr olds happy. I mean the discord was littered with them at launch talking about how they don't want to sweat to play a racing game.. whhhhat.. it's all about being faster but they're complaining about having to be faster. Wack!!

And let's get honest. Both games had junk launches with their own specific problems. At the end of the day I enjoy and play all..

Lastly... Join my club ;) links are in my profile

Seb Loeb Rally Evo has amazing tarmac handling/physics, better than any KT WRC or Codies game. I wish that game was expanded upon, even the stages are amazing.

I disagree handling is better in KT, EA WRC is far better on gravel especially.