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too late, already refunded. they can stick that kernel ac where sun don't shine, it's good way of getting rid of players.
in fact it caused BSOD already with KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE .. and i didn't even install it, i tried getting rid of the downloaded files, it already started spying and breaking my PC.
my PC is custom, i have lot of custom software, including truecrypt. windows updates or other kernel modifications are not possible due truecrypt bootloader locking out all the pre-boot spyware.
this is UNACCEPTABLE! i hope someone rich will sue them at some point, but i doubt, cuz all those rich youtubers have no idea what kernel even means or does.
yeah that BSOD is most likely due kernel ac. most common cause is when windows can't find a certain file/software in memory that it expects to find, which is usually kernel-level as user-mode software don't usually cause BSOD.
most likely when you uninstalled, it kept some traces somewhere and tried to spy on you even after it was removed and since it couldn't find the file, it crashed.
games have no business running in kernel level, that's nonsense.
kernel-mode is for drivers only, because kernel level gives direct access to your hardware, which makes drivers run faster, but if anything in kernel-mode crashes, then entire PC will crash with BSOD.
this is what user-mode is for and why all programs run in user-mode, so if one program crashes, it doesn't take entire PC with it.
people really need to do research on what kernel even means and does, anti-cheat nor games have no business running in kernel-mode.
more importantly, kernel ac doesn't prevent cheating, they are doing this to collect system info, as kernel-mode ac has direct access to hardware, they collect your real HWID, so if someone plays on shared PC and one player cheats, then everyone who have ever used that PC will get banned aswell. that's why they use kernel, so they can SPY on you.
imagine playing on cloud PC or in internet cafe and getting banned only cuz someone else cheated on that machine.
Yes i figured as much. I uninstalled using their anticheat setup utility, but it left stuff for sure.
that list is not correct. i have dayz, arma 3, insurgency sandstorm and planetside 2 and probably some others from that list aswell, they're not kernel.
none of them complain about msi afterburner or any other tools i have. i use cheat engine and debuggers, none of them are problem.
forza horizon 5 in other hand .. is not kernel and it closes in presence of many tools that have nothing to do with cheating, for example it doesn't like procmon, process explorer and many other windows tools that have nothing to do with cheating. if i remember right battleye doesn't like procmon either, but it won't ban you for it, you simply get message that you have to unload it before you can play.
on top of that, planetside 2 is full of cheaters. if it's kernel, it clearly doesn't help. i remember back in 2012-2014 one of my friend was cheating in ps2 and got banned, he made new account and that got banned aswell, but then he used "sandboxie" and made new account and was able to play, which means it can't be kernel or at least wasn't back then, because kernel ac wouldn't be fooled by emulated HWIDs.
it also says CSGO uses kernel, but that's nonsense. csgo no longer even exists, it's cs2 and it's FULL of cheaters. faceit has their own anti-cheat which is kernel, but cs2 itself only has VAC, which is NOT kernel. valve specifically wants cheaters to be able to come back with new accounts, because it means more money to valve.
EAC (easy anti cheat) is also not kernel. it locks game memory, but it's not full kernel.
maybe what this list refers to, is which anti cheats use some windows driver that is kernel, maybe they use some windows function that gives them partial kernel access, but they're not kernel for sure. kernel is very rare.
HOW TO KNOW if game uses kernel?
if installation of game requires PC reboot before you can play, then it uses some kernel-level software.
if you can play without rebooting, then it doesn't have kernel software.
i tried installing valorant at some point, it wanted me to reboot and that's where i uninstalled it instead.
as i said, those anti cheats might use some windows driver that is kernel, but they don't use their own drivers. installation of kernel driver would require reboot of PC before you can play / use the software.
yeah i've always liked racing and rally games aswell, but i'm not installing spyware / malware just to play it.
problem is that devs are extremely badly informed (just like most players) and they don't know what kernel even means or does.
kernel-mode is for DRIVERS only, as kernel mode gives direct access to hardware.
nowday game devs are using pre-made tools, such as unreal engine to make games. it's kind of like learning photoshop or video editor, it doesn't require any real knowledge on how computers work, so they just do what they find on google without any actual knowledge of what they're doing.
kernel is not needed for games, because if kernel driver or program crashes, then entire PC will crash with BSOD. that's WHY you don't run games or any other software in kernel level.
it's just privacy invasion and nothing more.
kernel-mode has no benefits over user-mode, kernel ac doesn't detect cheats any better than user-mode, only difference is that they can spy on your entire pc.
forza horizon 5 doesn't use kernel, but it has many other anti-tamper defences that are much better than some lame kernel ac.
in racing games, best anti-cheat is to use A.I. to see what is best possible time in the game, if anyone beats that time = ban. it's really THAT simple. just make movement server sided like it's done in many pvp games, this way it doesn't matter if it even has anti-cheat, because times would be calculated on server side.... but devs are not smart enough to do that.
You'll need to update RTSS if you want to monitor performance through afterburner.
Yeah there’s an update for it, I’m sure it’s been out for a little bit so not necessarily for WRC. I was in the same position as you myself though and couldn’t get Afterburner running at all until I eventually tried clicking the RTSS pop up that I had been ignoring lol.
no idea what rtss is, but their anti cheat is too intrusive. it's spying on your PC and has full access to everything.
games and/or anti-cheat have NO business running in kernel mode, that's absurd.
anyone who doesn't understand computers, kernel doesn't detect cheats any better, they use this to SPY on your PC.
those who don't understand, think of kernel as if game would want to take your fingerprints, DNA and retinal scan you. would you be ok with that?
they do this to ban EVERYONE who has used same pc with cheater, which means if you have family PC, use cloud gaming or use internet / gaming cafe and someone on that PC has or will cheat, then EVERYONE who has ever used that PC will also get banned.
in asia, those gaming cafes are very popular, because they're super cheap, while computers are not. i watched a documentary on some asians who are living on streets, but they do this by choice. they work, but sleep on street and then use their money to go into gaming cafes and spend most of the day there. they get to use faciilities aswell and eat there too. now imagine if someone cheats on one of the PC .. then everyone else will get banned aswell, that's so absurd, but this is why they use kernel for.
kernel ac has nothing to do with detecting cheats, it's to spy on people's hardware. it can even access your webcam and mic and since it's kernel level, you can't even monitor what it's doing, because they are blocking all monitoring tools, such as procmon.
i strongly recommend everyone to stay away from kernel software, it's way too intrusive.
for example autohotkey CAN be used for cheating, but it's not designed as a cheating tool, why would anyone be banned for it? i use autohotkey to quickly remap keyboard buttons or to make on-screen cook timer, so if i put food in oven, then i won't forget it while playing, why would they ban me for it?
devs nowdays aren't thinking. if i get banned for using cheat engine, then i get it. fine! even if i didn't hack the game with it, i would understand that running CE while game is open would trigger a ban, but why ban other software?
devs are at the point where they take pre-cautions so strict that people getting banned for using all kinds of 3rd party software that has nothing to do with cheating.