Real question, why mixed reviews?

[Not Anonymous]

I want to play but not sure why the mixed reviews. I dont wanna get dirtfive'd. Can I get a brief explanation on why?

[PAWNSTAR]

Publicado originalmente por Pacino:

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haha i just came off 300 hrs of forza motorsports and its kinda dead due to how busted the game is.

The thing about WRC is , it works as intended

Yeah I hear you. I tried Forza and deleted it quite quickly due to how awful the performance and handling was. Then I decided I was too rash and installed it again.... Got annoyed and deleted it again for the same reasons. I play Gran Turismo 7 and the Assetto Corsa games mainly so decided I'm good regardless. That was a shame though, I had high hopes for that game.

ayo i still have high hopes for it, i do love a bit of Circuit racing, as well as rally
But im smack bang love drifting .... and codemasters virtually locks that physics attribute of realism which is sad cause drifting and rally are virtually the same driving discipline

There are perfect stages here on ashphalt that are sooo designed for drifting .... but i cant cause of the limitation

then the rally sim masterclass will debate the cars are realistic
i guess you havent drifted before or played ACC or iracing to know what assists off actually means

[Tracker_168]

Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:

Publicado originalmente por Pacino:

Yeah I hear you. I tried Forza and deleted it quite quickly due to how awful the performance and handling was. Then I decided I was too rash and installed it again.... Got annoyed and deleted it again for the same reasons. I play Gran Turismo 7 and the Assetto Corsa games mainly so decided I'm good regardless. That was a shame though, I had high hopes for that game.

ayo i still have high hopes for it, i do love a bit of Circuit racing, as well as rally
But im smack bang love drifting .... and codemasters virtually locks that realism which is sad cause drifting and rally are virtually the same driving discipline

Whats your thoughts about the RWD cars? I have not played them much. Because they would be more in line with drifting than the AWD cars which is what I gravitate to more.

[stburr91]

Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:

Publicado originalmente por Pacino:

Yeah I hear you. I tried Forza and deleted it quite quickly due to how awful the performance and handling was. Then I decided I was too rash and installed it again.... Got annoyed and deleted it again for the same reasons. I play Gran Turismo 7 and the Assetto Corsa games mainly so decided I'm good regardless. That was a shame though, I had high hopes for that game.

ayo i still have high hopes for it, i do love a bit of Circuit racing, as well as rally
But im smack bang love drifting .... and codemasters virtually locks that physics attribute of realism which is sad cause drifting and rally are virtually the same driving discipline

There are perfect stages here on ashphalt that are sooo designed for drifting .... but i cant cause of the limitation

then the rally sim masterclass will debate the cars are realistic
i guess you havent drifted before or played ACC or iracing to know what assists off actually means

While I'm not at all into drifting, but you are correct, you cannot really properly drift the cars in this game. This is an ongoing issues with the CM rally games. With the physics in this game, you pretty much just throw the cars a little sideways into the corners, slide for a bit, then drive out of the corner, you aren't really drifting through the corner using throttle, and steering to maintain the car's rotation.

[Pacino]

Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:

Publicado originalmente por Pacino:

Yeah I hear you. I tried Forza and deleted it quite quickly due to how awful the performance and handling was. Then I decided I was too rash and installed it again.... Got annoyed and deleted it again for the same reasons. I play Gran Turismo 7 and the Assetto Corsa games mainly so decided I'm good regardless. That was a shame though, I had high hopes for that game.

ayo i still have high hopes for it, i do love a bit of Circuit racing, as well as rally
But im smack bang love drifting .... and codemasters virtually locks that physics attribute of realism which is sad cause drifting and rally are virtually the same driving discipline

There are perfect stages here on ashphalt that are sooo designed for drifting .... but i cant cause of the limitation

then the rally sim masterclass will debate the cars are realistic
i guess you havent drifted before or played ACC or iracing to know what assists off actually means

I'm a bit confused by that last edit. Admittedly I have no idea about drifting but I do play ACC and I don't use assists in anything I play. Do you mean me personally or were you just making a general statement?

[PAWNSTAR]

1st to 2nd or even 3rd gear in ACC or any other car game for that matter except this one
what happens when you floor it with all assists off

[Tracker_168]

Publicado originalmente por stburr91:

Publicado originalmente por PAWNSTAR:

ayo i still have high hopes for it, i do love a bit of Circuit racing, as well as rally
But im smack bang love drifting .... and codemasters virtually locks that physics attribute of realism which is sad cause drifting and rally are virtually the same driving discipline

There are perfect stages here on ashphalt that are sooo designed for drifting .... but i cant cause of the limitation

then the rally sim masterclass will debate the cars are realistic
i guess you havent drifted before or played ACC or iracing to know what assists off actually means

While I'm not at all into drifting, but you are correct, you cannot really properly drift the cars in this game. This is an ongoing issues with the CM rally games. With the physics in this game, you pretty much just throw the cars a little sideways into the corners, slide for a bit, then drive out of the corner, you aren't really drifting through the corner.

Are you talking about AWD cars because what you describe is actually how you are suppose to drive AWD cars quickly in Rally.

"Drifting" is slow in rally. In FWD/AWD, how you attack a corner is different than a RWD car. Heavy braking, quick rotation, then rely on the AWD or FWD traction to pull you out of the corner. In many ways, AWD rallying is more boring but its the faster way. Its a very Stocatic style of driving vs a RWD that requires more maintaining momentum and flow through corners.

[PAWNSTAR]

You basically have full control of you power band , like in real life doing a burnout
drifting is just you controlling thottle and steering to break traction and guide your vehicle around corners

[PAWNSTAR]

Publicado originalmente por Tracker_168:

Publicado originalmente por stburr91:

While I'm not at all into drifting, but you are correct, you cannot really properly drift the cars in this game. This is an ongoing issues with the CM rally games. With the physics in this game, you pretty much just throw the cars a little sideways into the corners, slide for a bit, then drive out of the corner, you aren't really drifting through the corner.

Are you talking about AWD cars because what you describe is actually how you are suppose to drive AWD cars quickly in Rally.

"Drifting" is slow in rally. In FWD/AWD, how you attack a corner is different than a RWD car. Heavy braking, quick rotation, then rely on the AWD or FWD traction to pull you out of the corner. In many ways, AWD rallying is more boring but its the faster way. Its a very Stocatic style of driving vs a RWD that requires more maintaining momentum and flow through corners.

Its limited lol by game mechanics has been in every codemasters game , maybe not soo much F1

Its there as a game mechanic to produce quick exits for fast times

[stburr91]

Publicado originalmente por Tracker_168:

Publicado originalmente por stburr91:

While I'm not at all into drifting, but you are correct, you cannot really properly drift the cars in this game. This is an ongoing issues with the CM rally games. With the physics in this game, you pretty much just throw the cars a little sideways into the corners, slide for a bit, then drive out of the corner, you aren't really drifting through the corner.

Are you talking about AWD cars because what you describe is actually how you are suppose to drive AWD cars quickly in Rally.

"Drifting" is slow in rally. In FWD/AWD, how you attack a corner is different than a RWD car. Heavy braking, quick rotation, then rely on the AWD or FWD traction to pull you out of the corner. In many ways, AWD rallying is more boring but its the faster way. Its a very Stocatic style of driving vs a RWD that requires more maintaining momentum and flow through corners.

I'm talking about long sweeping corners, where you use throttle/wheel spin, and steering input to maintain the car's rotation through long sweeping turns. You can't really to that in CM rally games, not even on gravel.

[PAWNSTAR]

RIP Mr Ken Block

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2uXBMkO8U

Now thats All assists off :P

[TheWarmWind]

The gameplay is great but the performance is underwhelming, especially for how it looks. Also suffering from some pretty major crashes, most notably in career mode. Based on the communication fixes are on the way but people are totally justified to be angry. Personally I'm loving it, though a lot less since I hit a bug and can't progress my career.

Keep your expectations in check. The team that made it is small and just transitioned to a new engine, which I assume is just a stepping stone for them to progress onto UE5 eventually. If you can accept that it's not perfect there is a good time to be had.

[PAWNSTAR]

spam continue bug?
or monte carlo?

let the stutter fest happen it will eventually disappear as devs need to compile shaders at startup instead of real time

Nah the game is great fun and you will sink alot of hours into it, worth the $$ and you will be belting your car around corners
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I just had alot of Rally sim drivers have a go at me about realism
but they dont know what they are talking about cause they havent ventured out of the rally gene pool

and they get really upset when i say its quite similar to mario kart except mario kart can maintain power through its drifts lol

[This_is_Citrus]

Stutterfest, the game.

[Doktor Mandrake]

They switched to unreal engine 4 and the game has shader compilation stutter which is a common issue with ue4

For something like a racing game that sort of stutter doesn't fly.. People don't complain about it as much in other ue4 games but I promise you it's there

They should of stayed on their own "ego" engine instead of switching to ue4

[PAWNSTAR]

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ayo i still have high hopes for it, i do love a bit of Circuit racing, as well as rally
But im smack bang love drifting .... and codemasters virtually locks that realism which is sad cause drifting and rally are virtually the same driving discipline

Whats your thoughts about the RWD cars? I have not played them much. Because they would be more in line with drifting than the AWD cars which is what I gravitate to more.

cant lie The RWD are excessive with very little throttle response , and they require Dev attention or a touch of stability but no where near what a RWD car feels like

Your going to have to buy a fwd awd and rwd for career so your gonna experience Massive pendulum effect with the RWD kinda handles more like a mid rear car to be honest like F1 on dirt