Car models too big for the tracks? (some of the tracks)

[RStark]

Is it me. or do the car models feel too big for the tracks??



Some tracks, I fell like a Pinball, with the back end swinging out and hitting every curb, bush, wall as i turn corners.



Also the turning model feels way to different, and frankly wrong. Cars do not turn as if on a swivel. The whole car seems to swivel from the centre of the car. So turning is as if you have some sort of real wheel steering effect?



Maybe I am getting old, but dirt rally and dirt rally 2, was way better to drive and stay on tracks, it was easier to judge corners, and hairpins coming up. The speed in this game is much faster, leaving you not much time to correct, when the hairpins come up.



Feels off some how, cant fully pinpoint it.

[Omence072]

Scale seems a little off sometimes. Bonnet or hood view helped me.

[Beethy]

Can't be right. The stages match their real life counterparts very precisely. And it's not like older cars are that much wider than the current WRC ones, right?
I'm not struggling with the tight tracks.

[stburr91]

Yes, the center steer is a well known issue in rally games.

The stages are narrower in this game that's for sure, but it is fairly realistic.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by Beethy:

Can't be right. The stages match their real life counterparts very precisely. And it's not like older cars are that much wider than the current WRC ones, right?
I'm not struggling with the tight tracks.

I don't know if this is meant as sarcasm or not, but if not...

The stages do not match the real stages precisely, and the Rally 1 cars are wider than the older cars.

[Ps4 Deadman]

lol try actually watching a WRC event

[Geth Android]

"Some tracks, I fell like a Pinball, with the back end swinging out and hitting every curb, bush, wall as i turn corners."

Skill issue. Try being smoother on the throttle on corner exit, make sure your wheels are straight before flooring it.

The Pinball effect though is because the collision physics in this game are poor and akin to racing games from the 90's. DR2 you would slow down when hitting armco barriers or crash through wooden fences for example.

[karik_FIN_134]

Some of the roads used in real rallies are very small, can't even fit 2 regular cars side-by-side, width of road is like 3meters (10feet). Therefor there's occasional wider parts to do passing safely.

[redriot77]

Originally posted by rdalcroft:

Maybe I am getting old, but dirt rally and dirt rally 2, was way better to drive and stay on tracks, it was easier to judge corners, and hairpins coming up. The speed in this game is much faster, leaving you not much time to correct, when the hairpins come up.

The speed.
You control the speed of the car, not the game. Drive a little slower, drive at 85-90%. Try to leave some room for error, don't drive on the edge. Aim the car to the inside of the corner and turn tighter, don't let the rear wandering off track.
And it's worth to try a slower car class, they are fun too.

[Actionjackson]

Originally posted by rdalcroft:

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Also the turning model feels way to different, and frankly wrong. Cars do not turn as if on a swivel. The whole car seems to swivel from the centre of the car. So turning is as if you have some sort of real wheel steering effect?

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Feels off some how, cant fully pinpoint it.

The center pivot steering is a well documented fact in the Dirt games... and also many other old arcade racers like NFS and such.
Its like cars have 4 wheel steering to fake the user into thinking he is sliding while he is still grip racing. (And also to simply rotate cars abruptly, simply to make cars more agile)
Only when you go rly sideways and hear the "Chrrrrrr" sound, this is when you are actually sliding in the game, and that is rarely the case.

[RStark]

Thanks you all for the tips, I must try harder. Some good points made.

[Brussels_Sprouts_Are_Not_Food]

Skill issue.

[fear factor]

Is this narrow enough? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNNvPabVzI&t=287s&ab_channel=FIAWorldRallyChampionship

[RStark]

OK I take back everything I have said, apart from turning model:

I had assists on pro mode which was everything at 0.

Turned:
ABS - 2
Tr Cntr - 2
Off accelerator braking - 1
I am using controller BTW...

Graphics:
Mirrors - off (Mega resource hog)
reflections - Ultra Low (Mega resource hog)
everything else high

Gained 50fps in Dash view: 140fps average @ 1440p

Now the game feels great, I can drive, and those narrow tracks, I can demolish.

I knew it couldn't be that bad.