Logitech g29 or Logitech g923

[Cazan]

Which of these two, do you prefer?

[stburr91]

Originally posted by Tony Pond:

So that is something to also consider in the long run, as the extra cost + hassle, no hand brake along with the noise makes the G29 not such great value. Especially with a T300RS around the same price (quieter belt drive) and Fantec Direct Drive wheels almost in this price range too.

Yes, with the price of the Fanatec CSL DD Bundle, it really doesn't make much sense to get a gear driven wheel any more.

[Cazan]

Originally posted by Tony Pond:

G29 Linux user here, for a long time the G29 was the only wheel that worked properly on Linux (drivers are in the Kernel), it is a very noisy wheel and thats before the devices own *Rumble activates (which for me only actually makes a jack-hammer type noise you dont feed the rumble though the wheel) dont think DR2 uses the device Rumble itself, but WRCGen, Beam.ng, AC do.

The G29 uses Potentiometers for its pedals, which wear out quite quickly and need maintenance to get accurate breaking and acceleration. I got so fed up with taking the pedals apart (lots of very thin wires that are easily broken) that I replaced them all with Linear Position Sensors from AXC Sim Racing Products - which work great!

https://www.axc-sim.com/product/potentiometer-kit-for-logitech-g-series-pedals/

So that is something to also consider in the long run, as the extra cost + hassle, no hand brake along with the noise makes the G29 not such great value. Especially with a T300RS around the same price (quieter belt drive) and Fantec Direct Drive wheels almost in this price range too.

Certainly is immersive though and much more fun that a 2 stick controller!

* Rumble as in device rumble like a 2 stick controller rumble, not the rumble which is generated via force feedback on the G29 when going over rough terrain.

Thank you for the information :)

[Cazan]

Originally posted by Actionjackson:

I think the G29(and G27 and G920) has the same pedals as my old G25 had, and these held up for over 10 years without any problems at all. Last year the decoder disk broke on my G25, the pedals where still working like on day one.
At least this is my experience with the logitech pedals.

Thank you for this information :)

[Ochso]

If you are buying new OP then neither. You are effectively "throwing good money after bad". as the saying goes. That is not to say if you can get a half price ( or lower ) second hand unit then the choice becomes harder as you are losing less money.

Where as The g29,920 /293, 3 years ago could still be recommended as a decent starter wheel.. ( And it still is - the caveat being for games around 3 old. ( and older))
Just as 8Gb Gfx cards days are numbered so the 2Nm wheel is already further along the path . Devs dont want to optimise games for lower torques be it time and effort / cost of doing so.

Personal opinion of course, but Ideally you should be looking at around 4Nm as the entry point into Wheels moving forward
Moza - R3 ( soon) & R5 , Fanatec CSL DDs as have been mentions offer a decent entry point into DD wheels.. where at that price point you are getting considerably more accuracy to go with your Nm.

Good luck.

[Cazan]

Originally posted by Ochso:

If you are buying new OP then neither. You are effectively "throwing good money after bad". as the saying goes. That is not to say if you can get a half price ( or lower ) second hand unit then the choice becomes harder as you are losing less money.

Where as The g29,920 /293, 3 years ago could still be recommended as a decent starter wheel.. ( And it still is - the caveat being for games around 3 old. ( and older))
Just as 8Gb Gfx cards days are numbered so the 2Nm wheel is already further along the path . Devs dont want to optimise games for lower torques be it time and effort / cost of doing so.

Personal opinion of course, but Ideally you should be looking at around 4Nm as the entry point into Wheels moving forward
Moza - R3 ( soon) & R5 , Fanatec CSL DDs as have been mentions offer a decent entry point into DD wheels.. where at that price point you are getting considerably more accuracy to go with your Nm.

Good luck.

Thank you :) It will be my first wheel, so maybe i will start with G29.

[LoanStar76]

its amazing logitech kept the pins ect the same from ps2 era until now and still compatible comparing the g29 #920 direct drive to belt drive sounds odd to me because you need silence while rally driving ? the g29#920 direct drive slip on different surfaces is 2nd to none and feels real life to me been driving 30 years to compare with . im getting the hoover out on good advice and having a minute silence for the decoder disk

[Actionjackson]

I think just because you easily ditch 5000$ on toy wheels and accessories these days, does not mean the average entry price has to go up too.
To ask for a beginner to fork out 500 to 600$ or more is clearly not reasonable(its his first wheel)... he doesnt even know if he will use it that much.

The ~350$ is "entry level" enough, and you get good stuff for it. No its not high end and does not have 100Nm and a shifter and handbreak... but he does not need that at all to have fun in a race game.
just saying....

[Cazan]

To ask for a beginner to fork out 500 to 600$ or more is clearly not reasonable(its his first wheel)... he doesnt even know if he will use it that much.

The ~350$ is "entry level" enough, and you get good stuff for it. No its not high end and does not have 100Nm and a shifter and handbreak... but he does not need that at all to have fun in a race game.
just saying.... [/quote]

Thank you

[Patches]

I used a G27 for years and still have it. They had a G29 on sale for $200 a few years back and bought to replace the G27. I was on iRacing a lot back then and there were no DD Wheels yet.

I bought a Fanatec 2.5, a couple wheels and tri-pedals. I liked the feel of the G29 better still and I was 1/2 second faster on iRacing with the G29 than the Fanatec. The 2.5v Base had an upgrade the other day and it feels a lot better to me than before.

I still use my G29 more as it's a quicker set-up in my layout. One of those 1 pole Wheel Stands and a G29 sets up quick. I have to move everything for the Fanatec, Racing Seat and everything.

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[コック]

no experience with the 923 but I bought my g29 in june of 2019, 4+ years and 1000+ hours and its still going strong. I am feeling the itch to get something nicer though.

[Cazan]

Originally posted by Communist John F. Kennedy:

no experience with the 923 but I bought my g29 in june of 2019, 4+ years and 1000+ hours and its still going strong. I am feeling the itch to get something nicer though.

Thank you

[Drakooth]

I have a G923, its fine. not worth extra money over a G29 if you can choose, choose to save money.
If you have extra money get a Moza R5 or something. the gears are clunky and loud.
The FFB clips pretty fast cause the motors are weak. its a fun toy. but if you are looking for a wheel that is more than just a toy, don't go for Logitech.

[Cazan]

Originally posted by Drakooth:

I have a G923, its fine. not worth extra money over a G29 if you can choose, choose to save money.
If you have extra money get a Moza R5 or something. the gears are clunky and loud.
The FFB clips pretty fast cause the motors are weak. its a fun toy. but if you are looking for a wheel that is more than just a toy, don't go for Logitech.

Thanks