Should Bioware remake dragon age origins?

[TheSpookyAce]

It seems that the technical aspects of this game are universally praised while the creative team didn't do a good enough job to move the narratives of the franchise forward, leading to a potential loss of profit. Maybe Bioware can go the route of remakes like resident evil, dead space and silent hill and remake dragon age origins, which would be a far more cost effective project, no? Just modernize the graphics, combat systems etc and don't inject modern identity politics into the existing stories it should be a slam dunk right?

[Toad]

The answer is yes, they should do a remake/remaster, they won't however. This topic has been discussed by Bioware at length, especially when the Mass Effect remasters came out. Dragon Age Origins was built using their own engine, the Eclipse engine which had toolsets was based off the Neverwinter Nights engine. With the brain drain at Bioware, no one remembers how these engines worked.

[TheSpookyAce]

Originally posted by Toad:

The answer is yes, they should do a remake/remaster, they won't however. This topic has been discussed by Bioware at length, especially when the Mass Effect remasters came out. Dragon Age Origins was built using their own engine, the Eclipse engine which had toolsets was based off the Neverwinter Nights engine. With the brain drain at Bioware, no one remembers how these engines worked.

If they won't do a remaster because of the engine, what about a complete remake using frostbite, leaving only the stories, characters and dialogues intact. Maybe that will be costly but given nostalgia is very popular these days I bet the sales won't be bad.

[Toad]

Originally posted by TheSpookyAce:

Originally posted by Toad:

The answer is yes, they should do a remake/remaster, they won't however. This topic has been discussed by Bioware at length, especially when the Mass Effect remasters came out. Dragon Age Origins was built using their own engine, the Eclipse engine which had toolsets was based off the Neverwinter Nights engine. With the brain drain at Bioware, no one remembers how these engines worked.

If they won't do a remaster because of the engine, what about a complete remake using frostbite, leaving only the stories, characters and dialogues intact. Maybe that will be costly but given nostalgia is very popular these days I bet the sales won't be bad.

Very costly, it would be starting from scratch.

[Zebedee]

Trying to imagine the noise around a remake, as it would have to be for reasons Toad has given, which isn't just a copy/paste into a new engine. Remakes are very rarely copy/pastes into a new engine - there's always an element of reimagining, as there has to be if you want 'updated' systems etc. With the direction Bioware has leaned into over many, many years I think it's probably for the best if they do something new and which fits the skillsets they have and builds upon lessons they can take from Veilguard, and ME5 to come.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

they should just make life is strange but in their own version

[Darko]

I hope Bioware goes bankrupt, and Larian somehow acquires the rights to Dragon Age.

[CrazyOdd]

Originally posted by DEMON FROM SPACE:

I hope Bioware goes bankrupt, and Larian somehow acquires the rights to Dragon Age.

EA owns Bioware, so unless another big company shows interest, Dragon Age wont change owner anytime soon.

[Toad]

Originally posted by DEMON FROM SPACE:

I hope Bioware goes bankrupt, and Larian somehow acquires the rights to Dragon Age.

Larian also have their own IP that they are wanting to develop.

[cjqnsnyc]

This current team?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

In my opinion they already don't respect the lore or even seem to be fans of the first game, let alone real rpgs. They are not worthy enough to take it on, not with their writing capabilities.

Please keep them as far away from DA as possible!

[Mortallica]

Originally posted by DEMON FROM SPACE:

I hope Bioware goes bankrupt, and Larian somehow acquires the rights to Dragon Age.

bioware ip's belong to EA and if they kill bioware, most likely the ip's will die with them, EA would never sell them.

[TheSpookyAce]

Originally posted by Mortallica:

Originally posted by DEMON FROM SPACE:

I hope Bioware goes bankrupt, and Larian somehow acquires the rights to Dragon Age.

bioware ip's belong to EA and if they kill bioware, most likely the ip's will die with them, EA would never sell them.

Maybe EA will let another studio remake origins like what they did with dead space? We all thought dead space franchise will be buried when EA killed Viseral Studios.

[Mortallica]

Originally posted by TheSpookyAce:

Originally posted by Mortallica:

bioware ip's belong to EA and if they kill bioware, most likely the ip's will die with them, EA would never sell them.

Maybe EA will let another studio remake origins like what they did with dead space? We all thought dead space franchise will be buried when EA killed Viseral Studios.

Which ea studio makes rpg?, if I remember correctly, ea does not give its ip's to outside studios.

[TheSpookyAce]

Originally posted by Mortallica:

Originally posted by TheSpookyAce:

Maybe EA will let another studio remake origins like what they did with dead space? We all thought dead space franchise will be buried when EA killed Viseral Studios.

Which ea studio makes rpg?, ea doesn't give anything to an outside studio.

You are right I can't think of a prominent studio under ea that excels at rpg games besides bioware, so even if it happens it will have to come from someone new in the future.

[DimV9224]

Guys if the developers at the studio cant figure out how to use a 20 or 30 year old engine, they clearly suck at their job. A good coder for example can read ancient code and understand how it works at the very least. It just takes time. I dont wanna hear "the old game has an ancient engine and developers cant work it", its a lame excuse and exposes how bad the developers currently employed by these companies really are.

[zpc]

Originally posted by DimV9224:

Guys if the developers at the studio cant figure out how to use a 20 or 30 year old engine, they clearly suck at their job. A good coder for example can read ancient code and understand how it works at the very least. It just takes time. I dont wanna hear "the old game has an ancient engine and developers cant work it", its a lame excuse and exposes how bad the developers currently employed by these companies really are.

The question is not wether a [single] coder can read ancient code or not. The problem here (hidden behind that press text we got) is that the whole team can't be used to create a work based on the old engine. That's far more then "just" programmers. The whole asset pipeline is a big unknown and in general works completely different than what is now.

The trick they pulled for Mass Effect Legacy simply won't work here. It's also no "lame excuse" - it's simply reality that it would cost way too much and no one would have fun with that project. So it's bound to die from the start.

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@OP

BioWare can't & shouldn't. A remake should only be done by people passionate about the old game - ideally by a team build around some of the "old band". I'm thinking indy here.