What are the Darkspawn?

[rman88]

You know, thinking about this game some more. and watching someone play threw the original game. I realized something about the dark spawn. They are not the same Darkspawn that was in origins. They are not even close to being actual darkspawn.

In origins, you are quickly revealed what the dark spawn is. After you did your little origins segment, still one of the best intros to a game ever. But ehh, besides the point. You are shown How Brutal they are. They are Cunning, vile and evil. They enjoy torturing and murdering anyone in their path. Hell, one of the first thing you see while gathering darkspawn blood is Solders, Strung up like a banner welcoming you to to the swamp.

This shows that not only are they Evil. But they are also capable of doing relatively frivolous things. A sign of a culture we do not actual understand. This is compounded by the class system they have. Higher ranking members are clad in more exotic and heavier armor. where the lower class has more generic and simpler armor.

this is compounded with their actual goal. Being declared by the chantey as A Sin humanity has brought upon the world. A punishment, if i recall from using magic. Which in all honesty drives one of the core plot points threw out the entire series. That their desire kill everyone is a punishment by the gods. And they are driven to do it by an almost hive mind like entity known as the arch demon.

In reality, you could really compare them to say the Zerg or the tyranids. A hive mind of various races all following a single goal. Which is to wipe out the world above. Created as a punishment by the gods. Or if your a dwarf, a punishment for digging to deep.

Now what is it this game? It is more or less a zombie plague. They no longer wear armor. They no longer seem to have a cast based system. They are not organized. they do not do sadistic acts anymore. They act more like a Necromoph then they do a darkspawn. Where their only goal is to kill, Regardless of personal survival.

Hell i don't even know how wardens work anymore. As how could tapping into the hive mind work. If the only thing you sense is, Me hungry go eat raww..

[MASTERCHIEF]

Devs forgot DAO exists.

[NightingaleMuse]

They handwaved it as mad scientist elven goddess altered the darkspawn with blood and magic so anything goes now.

[Xazomn]

They used Veilguard as a big step towards new sequel games. Younger players in my eyes. DAV doesn't feel for me as an adult game and i feel if i am treated as a pre-teen. Nothing in it breath DA lore as a few lick here and there that you can taste a littlebit with your toungue that is is DA

[rman88]

You know, funny you bring up the Blight. As the blight was never a freaking disease. The Blight was a term for when the dark spawn, after unearthing an arch demon. would head to the surface to wage war. Thus the blight is just the term for a dark age. Its kinda like a cycle.

You know, Darkspawn find arch demon.

Wage war.

arch demon dies.

darkspawn go underground to find another.

[DaisyRay]

A lot of people miss the parts where they explain and show that the darkspawn has changed. They are no longer what they used to be, but now what a certain someone changed them into.

[rman88]

Yes we all get that they retconned them. Issue is this is terrible. As they gone from an Elite demon host of monsters. to generic zombies.

[MASTERCHIEF]

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

A lot of people miss the parts where they explain and show that the darkspawn has changed. They are no longer what they used to be, but now what a certain someone changed them into.

see i get the changing part. but think of this . an intelligent enemy is changed to generic zombie ... now why would you experiment/change to make something bad.
This a change for the sake of change .. does it really add anything to the game.. they removed genlocks again !

[MASTERCHIEF]

and even if they changed .. its not a overnight shift right ! you should see both the old and new versions too !

[CrazyOdd]

Remember the whole "blight has changed" part. The "original" darkspawn, that has been in the world, has slowly grown to be intelligent, because thats whats needed to free the rest of the blight or the gods. The goal of that blight magister from DAI.

Also remember that darkspawn, are "born" from creatures or a person, that have been turned by the blight. So some of them keeping a mind, like a semi Warden, would make sense.

Probably the gods had to "overwrite" there minds, to get them back in control. At least that seems the most logical. It also fits with the Archedemon, rallying the darkspawn, during every major blight.

The role of the Grey Warden, was to be a "cure" for the curse that was the Archedemon, which is not a blighted dragon? The Warden, being the closest "source" of blighted blood, when it died, destroyed the "soul" of the Archedemon, preventing it from doing the "body jump" method to respawn in another darkspawn.

So basically, with the "new" blight, Grey Wardens are no longer needed, other then as a "darkspawn radar", I guess.

[DaisyRay]

Originally posted by MASTERCHIEF:

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

A lot of people miss the parts where they explain and show that the darkspawn has changed. They are no longer what they used to be, but now what a certain someone changed them into.

see i get the changing part. but think of this . an intelligent enemy is changed to generic zombie ... now why would you experiment/change to make something bad.
This a change for the sake of change .. does it really add anything to the game.. they removed genlocks again !

I agree, I personally dislike it. I appreciate the explanation of the change, but they should have just left them as is. The Darkspawn already are a group that want to be lead by the powerful, so I don't think they had to really change them.

I think they changed them because it was easier than making their presence fit into the story in a strategic way.

[Xazomn]

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

A lot of people miss the parts where they explain and show that the darkspawn has changed. They are no longer what they used to be, but now what a certain someone changed them into.

I didn't missed that and i found it not fitting with the lore that was in 3 games. It's cheap writing if you change so easy the way Darkspawn is and made them generatic pawn. Yeah, very exting .

My first Ogre i met in DAO was oh my god, that is a big thing. And it looked angry. The ogers in DAV are, sorry that i say this. Laughable, it was not oh my gosh he is big but i laughed because they look so goofy. Childish and not scary. I like to being get scared when i play, reason why i like to wtach horror movies. They don't even deserve to be named Darkspawn...

[SolusiRadikal]

retcon is on the menu

[rman88]

You hit the nail on the head their. As think about it.. what were the dark spawn... Like lets take a look at the Races.

Hurlock, A human shaped one. Big strong capable fighters. Clad in heavy armor. hell they can even use magic.

Genlock, rouges, Snipers, these short creatures are amazing scouts. They can even shape shift.

Shrieks, Tall, lanky stealthy creatures. specializing as being assassins.

ogres, Yes we all know about them.

They had such verity. Such power behind them. They functioned like a real army. They were skilled and powerful. A real threat.

Ps. Brood mothers are also a thing. So they don't acutal need to turn people into Darkspawn. They can just bread thousands by making broodmothers.

[DaisyRay]

Originally posted by Xazomn:

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

A lot of people miss the parts where they explain and show that the darkspawn has changed. They are no longer what they used to be, but now what a certain someone changed them into.

I didn't missed that and i found it not fitting with the lore that was in 3 games. It's cheap writing if you change so easy the way Darkspawn is and made them generatic pawn. Yeah, very exting .

My first Ogre i met in DAO was oh my god, that is a big thing. And it looked angry. The ogers in DAV are, sorry that i say this. Laughable, it was not oh my gosh he is big but i laughed because they look so goofy. Childish and not scary. I like to being get scared when i play, reason why i like to wtach horror movies. They don't even deserve to be named Darkspawn...

I do agree, I laughed out loud when I saw that first Ogre. The change of them was a bad choice.

[The New Order]

Easy. Devs dint give a ♥♥♥♥ about the Lore, because "they know better".