Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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Rattle Nov 14, 2024 @ 11:43am
DA: Inquisition sold 1.14 million copies in first week
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Vanu Nov 14, 2024 @ 11:47am 
DAI had a compelling advertising campaign, people were hoping for a return to bioware form after the rushed junk that was da2, and it also was on prior gen consoles which more people had at the time.

I disliked the game for many reasons tho.
mps Nov 14, 2024 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Vanu:
DAI had a compelling advertising campaign, people were hoping for a return to bioware form after the rushed junk that was da2, and it also was on prior gen consoles which more people had at the time.

I disliked the game for many reasons tho.
Agreed. DA2 was a huge letdown after Origins and the hope was that Inquisition would be better. I would say it was better but a far cry from Origins.

Edit: What I don't understand is that if they truly wanted to 'return to form', why not copy the approach to the first game?
Last edited by mps; Nov 14, 2024 @ 11:51am
Vanu Nov 14, 2024 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by mps:
Originally posted by Vanu:
DAI had a compelling advertising campaign, people were hoping for a return to bioware form after the rushed junk that was da2, and it also was on prior gen consoles which more people had at the time.

I disliked the game for many reasons tho.
Agreed. DA2 was a huge letdown after Origins and the hope was that Inquisition would be better. I would say it was better but a far cry from Origins.

Edit: What I don't understand is that if they truly wanted to 'return to form', why not copy the approach to the first game?

Because EA had long since bought them, the founder doctors had left bioware years prior and most of the staff had changed. Its also possible that Bioware without any guard rails and focus got a bit distracted.

I remember the trailers for Witcher 3 appearing right after DAI which is silly since when DA2 showed it's trailers Witcher 2 drew a stark contrast right after too.

It just became more and more clear that BioWare had lost its magic. So we hoped gor strong companion and dialog decision typed journey of a hero game like Bioware was known for.

We got a singleplayer mmo instead.
Rattle Nov 14, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Vanu:
DAI had a compelling advertising campaign, people were hoping for a return to bioware form after the rushed junk that was da2, and it also was on prior gen consoles which more people had at the time.

I disliked the game for many reasons tho.

Loved Origins, struggled with DA2, was okay with Inquisition. It was definitely a step up from DA2, but yeah the whole main plot was completely screwed over thanks to a very tight deadline (again). I remember reading somewhere that DAI was supposed to be done in two years, like DA2. But the lead creator demanded for an extra year, and then demanded another three or six months.

Dragon Age, the entire series, has been crushed under EAs dumb-arsery. DA2 was made in a serious crunch, DAI was almost forced into an MMORPG, and DA: Dreadwolf was completely nuked in favour of Failguard.

We had one good game: Origins, and it was good because they had time to make it. They had five years.
Portico Nov 14, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Inquisition is also a terrible game that is dumber and more disney than Veilguard. Are we really gonna pretend it didn't have an extremely cringe musical number?
Rattle Nov 14, 2024 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Portico:
Inquisition is also a terrible game that is dumber and more disney than Veilguard. Are we really gonna pretend it didn't have an extremely cringe musical number?

Am I a dumbarse for liking that musical number? I will happily take that title.

I don't disagree that Inquisition is not the best in the series by far. Hell, it had a lot of issues, but it was a lot better than DA2 (not saying much) and despite its flaws it still FELT like a dragon age game. It had a lighter tone, but nothing compared to veilguard.
everybe2 Nov 14, 2024 @ 12:04pm 
Not good, it can be played on PS3.
Anonymusx Nov 14, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
The Inquisition best in the series... Deep story, large, beautiful areas,
I didn't like the Origin because it was predictable and boring.
[BIO] Orangecoke Nov 14, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
Yeah DA actually does quite well on consoles.
Lusid Nov 14, 2024 @ 1:43pm 
And not even 10% of those purchases bothered to play on release weekend and a player count that has only decreased? Something isn't mathing.

Oh nvm, you said inquisition, not veilguard. My bad. Carry on.
Last edited by Lusid; Nov 14, 2024 @ 1:45pm
Ponyeater Nov 14, 2024 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by Rattle:
Originally posted by Vanu:
DAI had a compelling advertising campaign, people were hoping for a return to bioware form after the rushed junk that was da2, and it also was on prior gen consoles which more people had at the time.

I disliked the game for many reasons tho.

Loved Origins, struggled with DA2, was okay with Inquisition. It was definitely a step up from DA2, but yeah the whole main plot was completely screwed over thanks to a very tight deadline (again). I remember reading somewhere that DAI was supposed to be done in two years, like DA2. But the lead creator demanded for an extra year, and then demanded another three or six months.

Dragon Age, the entire series, has been crushed under EAs dumb-arsery. DA2 was made in a serious crunch, DAI was almost forced into an MMORPG, and DA: Dreadwolf was completely nuked in favour of Failguard.

We had one good game: Origins, and it was good because they had time to make it. They had five years.
What gets me is that people somehow don't learn.
In 2010 it was already well-known that EA is the great butcher of dev studios. By then they had already absorbed and creatively killed over 10 studios, among them for instance Westwood Studios.
EA is investment sharks incarnate. The moment they acquired Bioware mid development in Dragon Age: Origins was the sign it was over. Everyone still clinging on thereafter is too well-meaning and quaint, believing the lies of corporate EA.
Kaos Nov 14, 2024 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
What gets me is that people somehow don't learn.
In 2010 it was already well-known that EA is the great butcher of dev studios. By then they had already absorbed and creatively killed over 10 studios, among them for instance Westwood Studios.
EA is investment sharks incarnate. The moment they acquired Bioware mid development in Dragon Age: Origins was the sign it was over. Everyone still clinging on thereafter is too well-meaning and quaint, believing the lies of corporate EA.

I still get sadface when I think about EA acquiring Origin Systems and butchering Ultima 9.
I still replay Ultima 7 every now and then.
Ponyeater Nov 14, 2024 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by Kaos:
Originally posted by Ponyeater:
What gets me is that people somehow don't learn.
In 2010 it was already well-known that EA is the great butcher of dev studios. By then they had already absorbed and creatively killed over 10 studios, among them for instance Westwood Studios.
EA is investment sharks incarnate. The moment they acquired Bioware mid development in Dragon Age: Origins was the sign it was over. Everyone still clinging on thereafter is too well-meaning and quaint, believing the lies of corporate EA.

I still get sadface when I think about EA acquiring Origin Systems and butchering Ultima 9.
I still replay Ultima 7 every now and then.
That company has dug so many graves and is so hated. It was even voted the worst company of the year twice in a row (in a time where we had BP oil spill, Blackwater mercenaries killing civilians in the Middle East, Volkswagen manipulation scandal, Nestlé and many others using the closest legally allowed thing to slave labor, food companies producing poisonous food, etc.).

And despite all this, people continue to give EA an chance. It boggles the mind.
Last edited by Ponyeater; Nov 14, 2024 @ 2:54pm
Portico Nov 14, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by Anonymusx:
The Inquisition best in the series... Deep story, large, beautiful areas,
I didn't like the Origin because it was predictable and boring.
Smoothbrained take. Inquisition is even more of a disney game than Veilguard. Origins/Awakening is the only real DA game.
Last edited by Portico; Nov 14, 2024 @ 2:55pm
Vanu Nov 14, 2024 @ 3:35pm 
I wouldn't say any of the games are Disney but Inquisition felt like it was taking that slowly more colorful approach first.
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