I wonder what BioWare is currently thinking...

[Zeromus]

Dragon Age Origins was marketed as the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate, and as a result, it did well. All BioWare needed to do is perfect the already winning formula. They didn't. Instead, they ran away from it and became increasingly more like Mass Effect.

Then Baldur's Gate 3 comes out and does very, very well and I'm wondering what BioWare is currently thinking seeing Larian's success that resumed a winning formula that BioWare abandoned.

[rpgchoices]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Originally posted by rpgchoices:

People started buying it when they found out of was woke actually. Diversity helps.

Nope, they got it because they are D&D players which is a huge factor because the latest D&D rules is very very terrible bad.

You think the majority of players of BG3 are DnD players who dislike the latest rules?

[Matticus]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Originally posted by Matticus:

D&D kinda had a cultural surge with the movie, critical role, Stranger Things.

so most people really don't mind the rules even though they are meh.

They murdered the Ranger class in 5e

Ya, D&D one doesn't look much better.

Pathfinder is still there for people who want more complexity.

[Matticus]

Originally posted by rpgchoices:

Originally posted by alex010300:

Nope, they got it because they are D&D players which is a huge factor because the latest D&D rules is very very terrible bad.

You think the majority of players of BG3 are DnD players who dislike the latest rules?

I would say the majority of players never touched D&D before 5e and the current popularity surge.

a large amount of people bought the game EA because of the studio.

[rpgchoices]

Originally posted by Matticus:

Originally posted by rpgchoices:

You think the majority of players of BG3 are DnD players who dislike the latest rules?

I would say the majority of players never touched D&D before 5e and the current popularity surge.

a large amount of people bought the game EA because of the studio.

Yes, that is my knowledge as well. The majority of players seem to be from turn-based RPG, or DOS2 or just general rpg story fans or even fans of DA and ME.

[Gekko]

Originally posted by upuaut2:

keep in mind that today Bioware has nothing to do with the Bioware we once knew.

correct, crazy how like 90% of players ignore this fact lol.

[Mightylink]

BioWare should of been thinking they could do better and rise to meet BG3's standards... but they wont.

[rpgchoices]

Originally posted by Mightylink:

BioWare should of been thinking they could do better and rise to meet BG3's standards... but they wont.

Nice joke.

[rpgchoices]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by rpgchoices:

BG3 is very different from Dragon Age tho. BG3 is more of a successor of Divinity games and does not in my opinion hold much to th BG1+BG2 a part from the setting, some characters and plot points. Still BG3 is similar to DOS games with all the pro and cons: exceptional combat, great enviroment interactions and ways to solve quests in alternative ways, it is a DnD campaign. It takes a bit less humor and adds deeper romances, but among the cons it also inherit the lack of interactions of characters between each other's and a big disregard for the lore.

DA is more companions based. While in BG3 you recruit the companions and they accompany you, the feeling of DA has always been of forming an actual group. BG3 only has one scene where the companions actually interact (cut scenes), while these are pretty common in DA, with also more banter between them. DA is also very very lore focused as well. The combat is just an evolution of DA2 and DAI and even if I prefer the old DAO combat we all knew the DA games were going in that direction.

That is a weird take

BG3 is a cRPG, its DND and focus on the series lore in a more focused region.

All DA games past DA:O are action adventures for the consoles and have nothing in common with cRPGs

Not sure what is weird about my take? I was specifically focusing on companions, but there's much that is different between BG3 and DA.

Regarding lore:
BG3 is very free with lore as are all Larian games (divinity games are unable to keep consistent lore). While the exploration of lore is a central point of DA.

[PKBitchGirl]

Originally posted by Ka-mai19:

For me the problem is that EA ruined BioWare by both limiting their freedom of creation and also forcing them to add things like MTX and multiplayer modes.

Larian has the benefit of having a great guy with a clear vision running the studio.

Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was great, Andromeda's was mid (though I liked that you could play as krogan women) and Inquisition's was terrible