What Really Happened.

[Valkyria]

It is really laughable that people actually think that the Veilguard didn't preform as well as EA/BioWare wanted it to do in part due to their little "anti-woke movement", it had nothing to do with pronouns, a non-binary character or surgery scars. It had everything to do with a lot of people not enjoying the quality of the writing, the art-style direction or the gameplay itself. In combination with a lot of these same people not enjoying Dragon Age Inquisition or Dragon Age 2. This is something that I underestimated amidst the people trolling before the Veilguard released, with a bit of hindsight I see a lot of people did have a lot of actual valid criticisms and that is what effected sales of the Veilguard. It had nothing to do with these YouTubers howling about how every new video game is woke. Avowed? Woke! Kingdom Come Deliverance 2? Woke! Spiderman 2? Woke! Assassin's Creed Shadows? Woke! Lol.

BioWare will survive, they are doing what even both sides of this argument want.
I'm not going to explain what they are doing, read their studio update if you care.

So many of the people on these forums wanted them to shut down. It ain't happening.

I'm sure that Dragon Age will return, just as sure as I am that a certain someone will make a YouTube video reading the steam forums of Veilguard for a half-dozenth time.

The Anti-Woke Grift will continue, just as I'll continue being a Dragon Age fan.
Just as I'll continue enjoying new releases and these people will say their woke.

The Veilguard will end up in the same boat as Dragon Age 2. That's fine with me.
100% completed it on Ps5. I'll do the same on PC with my new build in a few months.

[Jee Em]

Granted, a lot of these so-called "chuds" (as some on the "woke" side like to call them) are just plain stupid.

But let’s not pretend that the current climate of progressive representation in games and entertainment isn’t rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. The problem isn’t the representation itself - it’s how it’s being handled. Too often, it’s preachy, heavy-handed, and takes itself way too seriously to actually be compelling. Instead of bringing people together, it forces everyone into polarized camps with no middle ground.

And well, EA has ‘restructured’ BioWare, and rumors suggest the Edmonton studio might be shutting down in the future. So while BioWare might still be around for Mass Effect 5, if it doesn’t perform well, it’s likely their last game. That means they can’t afford to alienate players - they need to make a grounded experience that appeals to a broad audience rather than pushing a specific ideological message.

And for the love of god, EA or BioWare should never hire the same person who made the first trailer for Veilguard ever again.

Anyway, have fun replaying the game.

[Annake]

The game failed "chuds" won hahahaha

[bongsan2010]

If the next Mass Effect sells poorly, Bioware is done.
If the next mass Effect is a success, they'll probably keep working on the only IP that's been successful for them in over a decade.

I don't think Dragon Age will return. the whole creative team was sacked, and Bioware is now a 1 team studio.

Maybe in ten years time, maybe from another studio. But the combo Bioware/DA is done.

[Chara H Dreemurr]

Buy Kleenex from Blackrock

[Wantoomany]

If you take away the gameplay, writing, and art style, what exactly do you have left? You are basically says the entire game sucked, but with more words

[Valkyria]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

If you take away the gameplay, writing, and art style, what exactly do you have left? You are basically says the entire game sucked, but with more words

I'm saying some people disliked them, and didn't like the game. That's fair and their right.
I loved those aspects about it, but it seems not everyone else did and it didn't sell as well.

[Wantoomany]

Originally posted by Valkyria:

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

If you take away the gameplay, writing, and art style, what exactly do you have left? You are basically says the entire game sucked, but with more words

I'm saying some people disliked them, and didn't like the game. That's fair and their right.
I loved those aspects about it, but it seems not everyone else did and it didn't sell as well.

This almost, almost, sounds like you are desperately trying to say you were wrong, without actually saying the words. But we both know that's not true, this is just more bait to farm clowns.

[xbradx]

Yeah, looking forward to the inevitable flood of posts and videos a couple of years from now declaring "DAV is a true hidden gem! Can't believe I slept on it this long!" and all of us who played and enjoyed it at launch can say "yes, we told you so."

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

They fired the entire writing team that worked on veilguard.


BioWare is healing


https://www.thegamer.com/dragon-age-the-veilguard-origins-2-inquisition-all-writers-directors-left-laid-off-bioware/


“After years of issues behind the scenes, it now seems that every writer who has worked on a Dragon Age game has left BioWare. The final blow came in the form of layoffs and restructuring earlier this week. Both of the directors of Dragon Age: The Veilguard have left too.“

[Silent]

Originally posted by Valkyria:

BioWare will survive, they are doing what even both sides of this argument want.
I'm not going to explain what they are doing, read their studio update if you care.

Which update are you talking about? Could you please share the link? Last update I saw was about "we don’t require support from the full studio" and this cut the studio to <100 people (at its peak BW used to have 400+ people).
So survival looks questionable to me unless ME4 would be a masterpiece. And if for DAV I said that Bioware magic is gone and people would judge it for what it is, for ME4 I would say that it would have negative expectations from the beginning. Which is sad for me as a ME fan.

[KB8Killa]

The reason this game failed is not because of INSERT SIDE I DO NOT SUPPORT talking points. But rather because of INSERT SIDE I DO SUPPORT talking points.

[DarkestShadow]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[HlaineLarkin]

There you have your goty ahahahaha
Womp wooomp

[Veg]

The wokism is just the canary in the coalmine. Such people are not capable of creating a good game and the writing and politics is merely how we identify them not expressly why we dont like them

[CrimsonCrust]

Originally posted by Valkyria:

It is really laughable that people actually think that the Veilguard didn't preform as well as EA/BioWare wanted it to do in part due to their little "anti-woke movement", it had nothing to do with pronouns, a non-binary character or surgery scars. It had everything to do with a lot of people not enjoying the quality of the writing, the art-style direction or the gameplay itself. In combination with a lot of these same people not enjoying Dragon Age Inquisition or Dragon Age 2. This is something that I underestimated amidst the people trolling before the Veilguard released, with a bit of hindsight I see a lot of people did have a lot of actual valid criticisms and that is what effected sales of the Veilguard. It had nothing to do with these YouTubers howling about how every new video game is woke. Avowed? Woke! Kingdom Come Deliverance 2? Woke! Spiderman 2? Woke! Assassin's Creed Shadows? Woke! Lol.

BioWare will survive, they are doing what even both sides of this argument want.
I'm not going to explain what they are doing, read their studio update if you care.

So many of the people on these forums wanted them to shut down. It ain't happening.

I'm sure that Dragon Age will return, just as sure as I am that a certain someone will make a YouTube video reading the steam forums of Veilguard for a half-dozenth time.

The Anti-Woke Grift will continue, just as I'll continue being a Dragon Age fan.
Just as I'll continue enjoying new releases and these people will say their woke.

The Veilguard will end up in the same boat as Dragon Age 2. That's fine with me.
100% completed it on Ps5. I'll do the same on PC with my new build in a few months.

you are 100% incorrect.