My wife is a breast cancer survivor and it bothers me top scars are a thing in this game

[a4lawyers]

About 8 months ago, my wife was diagnosed with an aggressive form of Stage III breast cancer. We have three kids under 16. Treatment started a few days after diagnosis and consisted of 4 months of 4 different chemotherapy drugs. She is strong but by the end, the chemo had almost completely beat her down. Because of the type of cancer she had, she immediately had to have a double mastectomy wherein both of her gorgeous breasts were removed. She is cancer free but is REALLY struggling with the loss of her boobs. She wonders if she is even be seen as a woman any more. She sobs about this almost every day. I'm doing the best I can and she is strong but my guess is it will take years for her to fully come to grips with with the loss of her breasts.

Although I have no prejudice against trans people, the scars situation in this game really hits hard for BC survivors and I feel like Bioware should have considered this. For my wife, losing her breasts was not just a cosmetic surgery but evidence of the cold hard fact that in order to survive, she must live the rest of her life without boobs. All love to everyone but just thought I'd comment from a different perspective on the top scars "controversy."

EDIT: Changed my post from saying the scars "horrify" me to "bother" me. Horrify is too strong a word.

[Noctoculus]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Noctoculus:

I didn't say it was tiny. I find your attitude incredibly dismissive and derogatory.

How big is your knee? Besides you said yourself it brings smile on your face so maybe next time think what you wrote already before playing the victim card

My wife is in hysterics because of what you said. If you want to have a serious discussion about cancer survivors, I suggest you approach the subject with more tact. I don't respond to body shaming or the belittling of women.

[Xazomn]

I posted this already somewere, i am an surviver, got a huge scar in my neck. I see it as a positive thing. That scar saved my life. I see often scars located in the neck part for RPG effect and i got no issue with that because i see it as a positive,'my surviver scar', without it i would be dead.

I wish people could see such things as a more positive way....much better for healing the body and soul anyway.

[silver_hyena]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από a4lawyers:

For those who are in favor of the top scars in this game, what are your thoughts? I'm curious because it seems like people life my wife are just kinda thrown to the side.

I highly doubt any of them are going to comment.

I'll give it a shot. Before that, though, I want to say that there's no right way to feel about scars. OP's wife's feelings are valid and I hope that, if she plays the game, she can scroll past that option and not have to think about it again.

Just as valid, however, are people who see their scars (chest or otherwise) as proof they've survived something, that they've gone through hardships and come out on the other side despite the odds. People who've had breast surgery might choose to make a character that doesn't have the same scars they do-- and that's totally fair-- but there's other players out there that will appreciate that they don't need to be 'perfect' to exist in games like Veilguard. They can still be the hero and be loved by the characters, scars and all. It can be a safe space that they may or may not be getting in real life. And having that can be lifesaving.

[a4lawyers]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xazomn:

I posted this already somewere, i am an surviver, got a huge scar in my neck. I see it as a positive thing. That scar saved my life. I see often scars located in the neck part for RPG effect and i got no issue with that because i see it as a positive,'my surviver scar', without it i would be dead.

I wish people could see such things as a more positive way....much better for healing the body and soul anyway.

You have a neck scar from breast cancer?

[Xazomn]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από a4lawyers:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xazomn:

I posted this already somewere, i am an surviver, got a huge scar in my neck. I see it as a positive thing. That scar saved my life. I see often scars located in the neck part for RPG effect and i got no issue with that because i see it as a positive,'my surviver scar', without it i would be dead.

I wish people could see such things as a more positive way....much better for healing the body and soul anyway.

You have a neck scar from breast cancer?

I didn't say that at all, were do you read that? There are more kinds of cancer & all are bad no matter the kind of cancer someone got/had. You read my reply completely negative, but thats okay by me.

[a4lawyers]

Not negative, just confused. Hope you are doing well.

[Nanaluki]

Should the Inquisitor be removed from the game because she has lost an arm during the last game, and it could potentially upset people that have also lost an arm IRL?

[a4lawyers]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nanaluki:

Should the Inquisitor be removed from the game because she has lost an arm during the last game, and it could potentially upset people that have also lost an arm IRL?

Strawman.

[Eestiny]

There are scars and scars! It took me a while to deal with mine (accross my face) ! The insensitivity of some here on steam, tells a lot about who Bioware wanted to please!
I am not into playing a game that is openning so many wounds! (twitter is filled with women sharing their long struggles)
IGN trolling, Bioware torlling, some Youtubers trolling...
The equivalent for men would be to have their familly lucky stars removed (not by choice)! And have that being implemented in the game!

The luducrous argument, that you can ignore it, and pick something else, baffles me!
Bioware does not think far! Sad! Sad and

[Nanaluki]

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Should the Inquisitor be removed from the game because she has lost an arm during the last game, and it could potentially upset people that have also lost an arm IRL?

Strawman.

It's a genuine question, what's strawman about it?

If I made up a story about my boyfriend losing an arm in combat and being upset by the Inquisitor losing their arm in combat and giving him ptsd, would it feel more genuine?

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από a4lawyers:

For those who are in favor of the top scars in this game, what are your thoughts? I'm curious because it seems like people life my wife are just kinda thrown to the side.

I have still not had my question answered are these really meant to be scaring froma trans operation or generic medieval scars, as you know the chest would be the place with a huge amount of scaring for a fighter.

Because if it turns out that this is generic scaring, all the people who are crying about it aswell basically look like absolute morons.

But regardless, whilst I could bot give a crap about these I also find the people who are so against them pathetic too.
Even the op here, whilst I have sympathy for his wife, I have a friend who got into a bar fight and was glassed in the face when he was younger. Can he demand that all face scaring is removed from games?

I was left unable to walk for 6 months after a car hit me, can I demand nongames have fast and reckless driving.

End of the days the developers making this game choice to include it to show support and representation for basically the community that they also belong to and I respect that choice.
Equally I also respect a Japanese game not including LBGT representation as it is not there developers wishes.

[mommy milkers]

mastectomy scars in a video game to "celebrate" getting breasts removed is disgusting, absurd even. I cannot begin to imagine how hard it was for your wife and I hope she's healing, bless her.

[Noctoculus]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από HereticRivga:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από a4lawyers:

For those who are in favor of the top scars in this game, what are your thoughts? I'm curious because it seems like people life my wife are just kinda thrown to the side.

I have still not had my question answered are these really meant to be scaring froma trans operation or generic medieval scars, as you know the chest would be the place with a huge amount of scaring for a fighter.

Because if it turns out that this is generic scaring, all the people who are crying about it aswell basically look like absolute morons.

Maybe you should step away and look into the topic instead of expecting anyone to clue you in. You wouldn't want to look like an absolute moron.

[johnwick]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από HereticRivga:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από a4lawyers:

For those who are in favor of the top scars in this game, what are your thoughts? I'm curious because it seems like people life my wife are just kinda thrown to the side.

I have still not had my question answered are these really meant to be scaring froma trans operation or generic medieval scars, as you know the chest would be the place with a huge amount of scaring for a fighter.

Because if it turns out that this is generic scaring, all the people who are crying about it aswell basically look like absolute morons.

But regardless, whilst I could bot give a crap about these I also find the people who are so against them pathetic too.
Even the op here, whilst I have sympathy for his wife, I have a friend who got into a bar fight and was glassed in the face when he was younger. Can he demand that all face scaring is removed from games?

I was left unable to walk for 6 months after a car hit me, can I demand nongames have fast and reckless driving.

End of the days the developers making this game choice to include it to show support and representation for basically the community that they also belong to and I respect that choice.
Equally I also respect a Japanese game not including LBGT representation as it is not there developers wishes.

They are classed as "Top surgery scars" https://www.them.us/story/top-surgery-scars-dragon-age-the-veilguard-character-creator

So one question is why in a fantasy world with healing would scars remain.

The OP's concern, whose wife has my full sympathy, does seem to have been a massive oversight here.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Noctoculus:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από HereticRivga:

I have still not had my question answered are these really meant to be scaring froma trans operation or generic medieval scars, as you know the chest would be the place with a huge amount of scaring for a fighter.

Because if it turns out that this is generic scaring, all the people who are crying about it aswell basically look like absolute morons.

Maybe you should step away and look into the topic instead of expecting anyone to clue you in. You wouldn't want to look like an absolute moron.

Lol so they did this and it is not another anti woke cry wolf. Lol if nothing else you have to admire the stones to do this knowing you lot would f%king lose your collective minds and metaphorically p!ss the bed.

I mean I am sure anyone in the trans community was calling for this but lol, they did it anyhow.