Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 12:44am
what if Bioware would buy copies of its own game to boost its chart ratings ?
Just curious if this could happen and what the legal grounds are around this ?

Edit - As some people don't know the difference between asking a question and making an accusation or simply are unable to read.... Just clearing up this was a just a question if it would be possible.

Honestly its like people are rabid dogs foaming at the mouth ready to attack anyone one sight.

Just so people are up to date with this topic .... be warned some nasty people in here.
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Originally posted by Vengorin:
Originally posted by dustin1280:
This is RIDICULOUSLY far fetched OP...
It doesn't make sense from a marketing standpoint at all.

Using company money to artificially increase your "chart ratings" absolutely results in the inverse of what ANY company would want to have happen, which is reduced revenue.

Oh now you want to pretend to be trying to engage .... you said this topic was RIDICULOUSLY far fetched .... but now you want to talk reasonably about it .... funny when more people start to join and talk rationally like i was to start with ... you pretend to of been doing this the whole time after going after me like you did ... shameful.

like 9 hours of abuse from this one.

Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Just curious if this could happen and what the legal grounds are around this ?
is this is what the cope is going to be? "they're buying their own games!"
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 12:12pm
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pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Ok i have read it and your a a fraud ... nothing there says what you claim -prove me wrong.
so you didn't read it - like i said, willful ignorance.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
The rest of this is you repeating what you keep saying over and over ... i guess you have not read the responses i posted not a good look.
yeah, did you ever respond to how a CD key is supposed to contribute to the sales chart without activation? oh right, you refused to, owing to:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
yes ofc i wont respond to the rest of your tangent

saying you've responded when your response if you saying you won't respond is certainly a cop out.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
And no cd keys are not gifts ....
what do you think a Steam gift is, if not a license to give someone else; which in itself is a key?

Originally posted by Vengorin:
again simple research to find this out - prove me wrong
uh, your claim - your burden of proof, not mine. ;) you're wrong anyway so i understand why you want to offload this task of substantiating your claims to someone else.

in any case, "gifting copies" still necessitates that you need 100k accounts to gift these copies, how do you reconcile this? i'm guessing you just don't. that's how i know you didn't think this through. :D
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Ok i have read it and your a a fraud ... nothing there says what you claim -prove me wrong.
so you didn't read it - like i said, willful ignorance.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
The rest of this is you repeating what you keep saying over and over ... i guess you have not read the responses i posted not a good look.
yeah, did you ever respond to how a CD key is supposed to contribute to the sales chart without activation? oh right, you refused to, owing to:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
yes ofc i wont respond to the rest of your tangent

saying you've responded when your response if you saying you won't respond is certainly a cop out.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
And no cd keys are not gifts ....
what do you think a Steam gift is, if not a license to give someone else; which in itself is a key?

Originally posted by Vengorin:
again simple research to find this out - prove me wrong
uh, your claim - your burden of proof, not mine. ;) you're wrong anyway so i understand why you want to offload this task of substantiating your claims to someone else.

in any case, "gifting copies" still necessitates that you need 100k accounts to gift these copies, how do you reconcile this? i'm guessing you just don't. that's how i know you didn't think this through. :D

Your looking like a fool now ... not only did i read it but i used find to search it too ... your full of S### lol

How funny is this

No i gave no response to " how a CD key is supposed to contribute to the sales"
as i never claimed that i think this .... not sure where you got his from but its nothing to do with me as all i have done is ask questions not make statements.

Again failed in basic research ... you can simply google are steam gifts - cd keys to find your answer .... and the biggest and funniest thing here is you acting all offended that i put words in your mouth by talking about gifts and keys ..... yet now your claiming they are the same thing .... how does this work XD

If you make a claim its on you to prove it .... try saying otherwise to anyone even most kids understand this.
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 5:45am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:

im going to guess your heavy into toxic pvp games too ... lets have a look. will edit this in a min.

Edit - They should do a study to look for a correlation between people who play toxic pvp games and are terrible at debating or simple research.

As i am seeing at pattern more and more as time goes on.
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 5:48am
pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 6:06am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
im going to guess your heavy into toxic pvp games too ... lets have a look. will edit this in a min.
:steamhappy:

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Edit - They should do a study to look for a correlation between people who play toxic pvp games and are terrible at debating or simple research.
it's quite funny that you're announcing that you're going to rummage through my profile (which is public, while yours is private, feeling very self conscious about your gaming habits or something? lol) because you literally cannot defend your argument, all while calling others toxic, was you lying about me insulting your spelling not toxic (and refusal to own up to it) not toxic? is you right now doing ad homs rather than addressing my arguments not toxic? :D and i don't need to look at your profile to conclude any of this.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
As i am seeing at pattern more and more as time goes on.
oh now i'm curious, what "toxic pvp" games do i play? :steamhappy: i love how someone got so pressed that they've turned to psycho analyzing people's Steam libraries. xD

Originally posted by Vengorin:
not only did i read it
evidently not, what's the magic phrase? "prove me wrong" that you didn't read it? good luck.:steamhappy:

ad nauseam aside, will you ever explain how the procedure of buying 100k Steam gifts becomes easier when you buy your copies off of third party key resellers? i thought that was pretty funny, also pretty telling how you won't elaborate on that in lieu to go through my profile snooping for things to use against me. :D
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Still no link to the line of text that is the proof to your claim .... i'm not the one who made the claim as fact so i don't need to prove your statement as true this is on you.
like i said it is your prerogative if you don't want to read what i sent you.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
If you cant provide it then i accept you were wrong
you don't accept what i provide, you've got it backwards.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
... Now personal attacks on my intelligence ...noted.
" don't project your literacy onto me dude."
you are projecting your literacy onto me, you said i didn't read what i sent you, just cause you refuse to read it doesn't mean i similarly shirked my accountability.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
.... i said this ? i am quite sure i did not make a statement any thing like this ... please quote me saying this as proof please.
you brought up 3rd party game key sellers as an alternative to Steam, if you would like to clarify that you meant something different by this then feel free to elaborate.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
No i never said cd keys i said 3rd partys key seller site .... again quote me saying this as proof ..... Hint CD Keys are not 3rd party key seller site.... they are not the same thing lol.
sure:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Go look at 3rd party game key sellers ... then get back to me.
what do you think 3rd party game key sellers sell? what do you think a "game key" is? noticed how you didn't have an answer for this because you know you're just dead wrong? now you're left trying to argue that "game keys" are different from "CD keys" lmao, what a hill you've found yourself on.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Honestly no research to see if these site sell gifts .... i am ok with providing direct evidence so here you are.
{LINK REMOVED}
hold on... do you think a Steam gift is not a Steam key? :steamhappy: is your entire argument about bringing up third party cd key sellers (especially a grey market one like G2A) that this is somehow different then a copy on Steam? lol, how does purchasing the game versus purchasing it as a gift for someone else factor into this plan of yours and make it easier? did you think any of this through?

Originally posted by Vengorin:
yes ofc i wont respond to the rest of your tangent you refuse to provide evidence to your claim you fail to do basic research
read: i provided evidence, you just refuse to address or acknowledge it, you've repeatedly refused to acknowledge that you lied about me attacking your spelling so it doesn't inspire much confidence things will change for your accountability for anything else either.

You dont do any research at all ever lol .... https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987423228 my account is not privet did you press the wrong button lol

You cant be a real person ... you must be a bot put here for training

So once again you are very very easy to prove as a fraud lol
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 6:15am
pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 6:18am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
You dont do any research at all ever lol .... https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987423228 my account is not privet did you press the wrong button lol
yeah, nice zero games you have there. lol.
https://imgur.com/2fHAL3h.jpg
were you even aware you privated that section of your profile? again, funny you're snooping around my games while you've privated yours, was it insecurity?. :steamsad:
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 6:26am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
You dont do any research at all ever lol .... https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987423228 my account is not privet did you press the wrong button lol
yeah, nice zero games you have there. lol.
https://imgur.com/2fHAL3h.jpg
were you even aware you privated that section of your profile? again, funny you're snooping around my games while you've privated yours, was it insecurity?. :steamsad:

Ok i will give you this one but as far as there is a bug as none of my stuff is set to privet.
Currently looking into it.

https://imgur.com/a/bcNxVbe

So neither of us are right ... i am wrong for saying you did not look ..... but i am also right for saying its not privet.

Simple google search shows there are a lot of problems atm in 2024 with this system.

Edit ... and look at you going strait for the jugular with the was it insecurity ... like there could not be any other simple explanation ... this is quite telling too.
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 6:33am
pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
So neither of us are right ... i am wrong for saying you did not look ..... but i am also right for saying its not privet.
bruh your game list is privated.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Simple google search shows there are a lot of problems atm in 2024 with this system.
no, you've privated your game list, its an option in your settings that you set to private.:steamhappy:

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Edit ... and look at you going strait for the jugular with the was it insecurity ... like there could not be any other simple explanation ... this is quite telling too.
buddy you just went through my game list.. you're using someone's games as a barometer to try to get insight into what kind of person they are (lmao), and then conspicuously you've set yours to private and trying to pretend its a bug? lol

and for what? so you could steer the conversation away from the crux of this thread: how BioWare would go about selling 100k copies to themselves? leave your private profile behind and talk how BioWare would go about doing that instead.
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
So neither of us are right ... i am wrong for saying you did not look ..... but i am also right for saying its not privet.
bruh your game list is privated.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Simple google search shows there are a lot of problems atm in 2024 with this system.
no, you've privated your game list, its an option in your settings that you set to private.:steamhappy:

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Edit ... and look at you going strait for the jugular with the was it insecurity ... like there could not be any other simple explanation ... this is quite telling too.
buddy you just went through my game list.. you're using someone's games as a barometer to try to get insight into what kind of person they are (lmao), and then conspicuously you've set yours to private and trying to pretend its a bug? lol

and for what? so you could steer the conversation away from the crux of this thread: how BioWare would go about selling 100k copies to themselves? leave your private profile behind and talk how BioWare would go about doing that instead.

No Bruh its not set to privet im looking at it now it does not say its set to privet.

Buddy yes i did what of it ? ... are you upset ?

I steer it away lol you the one that did that with your tangent about cd keys and your lies of having proof in a text doc that you failed to prove.

You still have not proven your not a a fraud and a lair.

Do this and i will stop seeing you as a simple troll.

Edit - I must of hit a nerve for you to get caught up on this ..... lol ... bless your little cotton socks.
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:26am
pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
No Bruh its not set to privet im looking at it now it does not say its set to privet.
we know you're lying, i don't even care much why you're lying about something like that, it is sad but irrelevant.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Buddy yes i did what of it ? ... are you upset ?
like i said the idea that you're able to determine someone's personality by what games they play is funny to me, you can't infer what kind of person i am from me playing TF2. ;)

Originally posted by Vengorin:
I steer it away lol you the one that did that with your tangent about cd keys and your lies of having proof in a text doc that you failed to prove.
maybe you shouldn't have brought up 3rd party cd key sellers if you didn't want the topic to get into cd keys and how those need to be activated, huh?

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Do this and i will stop seeing you as a simple troll.
don't you have my Steam list to figure out whether i'm a troll or not? what happened? what games will you cite as the reason to no longer talk about how BioWare is going to sell 100k copies to themselves?
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
No Bruh its not set to privet im looking at it now it does not say its set to privet.
we know you're lying, i don't even care much why you're lying about something like that, it is sad but irrelevant.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Buddy yes i did what of it ? ... are you upset ?
like i said the idea that you're able to determine someone's personality by what games they play is funny to me, you can't infer what kind of person i am from me playing TF2. ;)

Originally posted by Vengorin:
I steer it away lol you the one that did that with your tangent about cd keys and your lies of having proof in a text doc that you failed to prove.
maybe you shouldn't have brought up 3rd party cd key sellers if you didn't want the topic to get into cd keys and how those need to be activated, huh?

Originally posted by Vengorin:
Do this and i will stop seeing you as a simple troll.
don't you have my Steam list to figure out whether i'm a troll or not? what happened? what games will you cite as the reason to no longer talk about how BioWare is going to sell 100k copies to themselves?

Who is we ? only me and you chatting here buddy ... or do you think your self so important that you have an audience ?

If you dont care why are you still talking about it ....and if its irrelevant does that make what your saying irreverent ? .. bet you ignore this.

I never brought up 3rd party cd key sellers .... i brought up 3rd party key sites ... not the cd keys or the sellers just the sites .... no wonder your struggling.

so lets sum up your hypocrisy

1. You lie about proof fail to provide proof and avoid acceptance of this to the point of ignoring it overtime i ask....

2. you accuse me of lying about something that has clear faults with the system yet you still cant tell the truth your self.

3. you insult my intelligence .... you judge me saying i have insecurities ....

4. but get offended and uptight when i make a judgement on you.

5. you move the goal post over and over each time you get caught in you lies and twisted logic...

6. you claim i say things that i have never said and provide no proof of such as there is none.

.... could add more but i think this will keep you busy for a mo or 2.
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:40am
pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Who is we ? only me and you chatting here buddy ... or do you think your self so important that you have an audience ?
this is a public forum.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
I never brought up 3rd party cd key sellers .... i brought up 3rd party key sites
what's the difference between a 3rd party cd key site, and 3rd party game key site?:steamhappy: again, you're just deciding to die on this hill that there's a difference between game keys and cd keys; they're synonymous.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
1. You lie about proof fail to provide proof and avoid acceptance of this to the point of ignoring it overtime i ask....
you asked for proof, i provided it, that you change the goal post is not my problem, that you lie about reading it isn't my problem either, you lie about quite a lot of things and it's not my job to amend my arguments to make them easier for you to deal with, sorry. :(

Originally posted by Vengorin:
2. you accuse me of lying about something that has clear faults with the system yet you still cant tell the truth your self.
nah, there's no problem with Steam, you've made your game details private and you're too angry to concede this to me.

much like when you had me mixed up with someone else and accused me of doing something this other person did: you never apologized, you just ignored it when i brought it up, you'll continue to not acknowledge this happened just like you'll continue to ignore it now; and now when i point out your game details are private you blame a "Steam system glitch", you just have zero accountability.

this is something i've accepted of you, which i just want to talk about the crux of the issue that you now won't talk about either: how BioWare is going to sell themselves 100k copies using Steam gifts, you've evaded this topic that you brought into conversation constantly because you recognize you have zero argument.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
3. you insult my intelligence .... you judge me saying i have insecurities ....
you do, you are lying, that's a hallmark of insecurity sorry to say.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
4. but get offended and uptight when i make a judgement on you.
first off, you don't have enough influence to make me upset, you just don't have that effect on people; second, you're incapable of making judgement of me by using my Steam library to do so, so i don't take your evaluation serious because your method is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
5. you move the goal post over and over each time you get caught in you lies and twisted logic...
heh, this is some projection, what goal post have i moved? didn't i end the last few replies talking about how BioWare has to sell themselves 100k copies? you're the one refusing to engage in the actual argument you started.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
6. you claim i say things that i have never said and provide no proof of such as there is none.
i have, i've continuely quoted you at your word, i suffice that some coping is needed on your part here.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
.... could add more but i think this will keep you busy for a mo or 2.
yes, whatever you do, do not talk about how BioWare is going to sell themselves 100k copies using Steam gifts. :D
Last edited by pr1mus; Oct 29, 2024 @ 8:01am
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
Who is we ? only me and you chatting here buddy ... or do you think your self so important that you have an audience ?
this is a public forum.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
I never brought up 3rd party cd key sellers .... i brought up 3rd party key sites
what's the difference between a 3rd party cd key site, and 3rd party game key site?:steamhappy: again, you're just deciding to die on this hill that there's a difference between game keys and cd keys; they're synonymous.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
1. You lie about proof fail to provide proof and avoid acceptance of this to the point of ignoring it overtime i ask....
you asked for proof, i provided it, that you change the goal post is not my problem, that you lie about reading it isn't my problem either, you lie about quite a lot of things and it's not my job to amend my arguments to make them easier for you to deal with, sorry. :(

Originally posted by Vengorin:
2. you accuse me of lying about something that has clear faults with the system yet you still cant tell the truth your self.
nah, there's no problem with Steam, you've made your game details private and you're too angry to concede this to me.

much like when you had me mixed up with someone else and accused me of doing something this other person did: you never apologized, you just ignored it when i brought it up, you'll continue to not acknowledge this happened just like you'll continue to ignore it now; and now when i point out your game details are private you blame a "Steam system glitch", you just have zero accountability.

this is something i've accepted of you, which i just want to talk about the crux of the issue that you now won't talk about either: how BioWare is going to sell themselves 100k copies using Steam gifts, you've evaded this topic that you brought into conversation constantly because you recognize you have zero argument.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
3. you insult my intelligence .... you judge me saying i have insecurities ....
you do, you are lying, that's a hallmark of insecurity sorry to say.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
4. but get offended and uptight when i make a judgement on you.
first off, you don't have enough influence to make me upset, you just don't have that effect on people; second, you're incapable of making judgement of me by using my Steam library to do so, so i don't take your evaluation serious because your method is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
5. you move the goal post over and over each time you get caught in you lies and twisted logic...
heh, this is some projection, what goal post have i moved? didn't i end the last few replies talking about how BioWare has to sell themselves 100k copies? you're the one refusing to engage in the actual argument you started.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
6. you claim i say things that i have never said and provide no proof of such as there is none.
i have, i've continuely quoted you at your word, i suffice that some coping is needed on your part here.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
.... could add more but i think this will keep you busy for a mo or 2.
yes, whatever you do, do not talk about how BioWare is going to sell themselves 100k copies using Steam gifts. :D

whooo ...yes it is a public forum finally you got something right....
but i am very sorry to tell you there are not waves of people lining up to read your posts .... no one ... and you know deep down no one is going to be reading all of this lol.

If you dont know the difference betweek a cd-key and a website ..... then all hope for you is lost im sorry to be the one to have to tell you.

No you provided a standard tos type doc that has nothing related to your claim in there as i said. and will say again you are 100% a liar and full of BS.

Angry ... i wish im more feeling sad right now shame to see people fail like this i prefer to cheer them on.

My profile is not set to privet at all 100% true and if you like i can provide evidence of this that it is 100% not set to Privet. your call.

The rest is gibberish hypocrisy lol.

Prove to me your not a liar ... oh btw these imaginary followers that are hanging on your every word can also view that same doc and see your full of BS .... quick prove them all wrong before they all judge you as a fraud and a liar. XD

And yes i have noticed logic reason and all of the above seems to not be useful to try and have an intelligent conversation with you so i am slowly phasing this out.
Last edited by Vengorin; Oct 29, 2024 @ 8:19am
pr1mus Oct 29, 2024 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Vengorin:
whooo ...yes it is a public forum finally you got something right....
but i am very sorry to tell you there are not waves of people lining up to read your posts .... no one ... and you know deep down no one is going to be reading all of this lol.
did i say any of the sort? i just said this is a public forum, you gotta start refuting what i say rather than imaginary things that play out in your head.:steamfacepalm:

Originally posted by Vengorin:
If you dont know the difference betweek a cd-key and a website ..... then all hope for you is lost im sorry to be the one to have to tell you.
let's quote you again:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
I never brought up 3rd party cd key sellers .... i brought up 3rd party key sites
nobody is equating CD keys and websites are the same thing besides you, when you say "game key sellers", you're not referring to a game key in itself, you're referring to a sites that sells such keys, hence "game key sellers".

which is why your quote of "I never brought up 3rd party cd key sellers .... i brought up 3rd party key sites" is fallacious, they mean the same thing but for the sake of you losing the argument you have to sit there and pretend they're different, all while refusing to elaborate what the difference between the two is. :D

Originally posted by Vengorin:
No you provided a standard tos type doc that has nothing related to your claim in there as i said. and will say again you are 100% a liar and full of BS.
but you didn't read it, so how would you know? we've been over this, another topic to move on from cause it's just getting repetitious.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
My profile is not set to privet at all 100% true and if you like i can provide evidence of this that it is 100% not set to Privet. your call.
like i said, i don't care about why you lied about your private game details, it is irrelevant.

Originally posted by Vengorin:
The rest is gibberish hypocrisy lol.
read: you have no response because you know you're wrong and are woefully unequipped to respond to the rest.

also funny calling my posts gibberish, are you sure you didn't confuse one of my posts again for one of your own again? wouldn't be the first time would it?

Originally posted by Vengorin:
And yes i have noticed logic reason and all of the above seems to not be useful to try and have an intelligent conversation with you so i am slowly phasing this out.
you literally can't even respond to half the arguments, opting to excuse yourself from responding to all of them by calling them "gibberish" and cherry picking the ones you feel comfortable responding to (and then still fumbling).

just skip the ad nauseum and explain what you meant with BioWare selling themselves 100k copies, you're not going to win any of the above anyway.
Last edited by pr1mus; Oct 29, 2024 @ 8:39am
Vengorin Oct 29, 2024 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by pr1mus:
Originally posted by Vengorin:
whooo ...yes it is a public forum finally you got something right....
but i am very sorry to tell you there are not waves of people lining up to read your posts .... no one ... and you know deep down no one is going to be reading all of this lol.
did i say any of the sort? i just said this is a public forum, you gotta start refuting what i saw rather than imaginary things that play out in your head.:steamfacepalm:

Ok only picking this one as you seem to not be able to cope with too much at one go and if this is wrong i will not even bother reading the rest.

Yes you did say something of the sort.

Originally posted by pr1mus:
we know you're lying, i don't even care much why you're lying about something like that, it is sad but irrelevant.

So here you indicate that there is more than you reading what is being wrote ....
now if this was not you who wrote this and someone is sneaking to your computer and pretending to be you say so and i will retract my statement.

Originally posted by pr1mus:
this is a public forum.

And this was your response to me saying we ? so you are clearly saying you think as its a public forum other people are reading what you wrote.....

Again if this was not you who wrote this and someone is sneaking to your computer and pretending to be you say so and i will retract my statement.
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