Lack of self awareness is crazy...

[Five]

When Hogwarts Legacy was coming out one side of the political spectrum was all like "The creator doesn't like trans-gender people, DON'T buy this game!" And everyone on the other side said "All that should matter is if the game is good or not, who cares what the author thinks"

Now that same side that was all up in arms for people telling others not to buy Hogwarts Legacy for not being "woke" enough or whatever terms they'd use is saying "the creators of Dragon Age are woke, DON'T buy this game!!"

How can people not see that they're on the exact same coin just opposite sides?

I don't really have a horse in this race, I played Hogwarts and planning on playing this. I suspect just like Hogwarts this will be a very average game, no BG3 or Wukong. It's just really funny to see people yelling at mirrors.

TL;DR
Hogwarts Legacy releases, one side: "Don't buy this game, creator doesn't like transgender people!"
Dragon Age Veilguard releases, other side: "Don't buy this game, creators like transgender people!"

[kcnue]

there's a big difference and the one who is unaware of it is you!



the difference is this:

- the author of the harry potter books had no involvement in the making of the game, so her views don't matter because she can't influence the game with her views

- the f*kn DEVS of this game have a certain ideology, so i think it's more than reasonable to assume that their views will seep into the game they make, not to mention the sneak-peaks of wokeness that were very vivid in the first trailer

and please, for f*cks sake, everyone just please f*kn stop pointing out how much of a hypocrite other people are for whatever reason! when you all f*kn know full well that when you personally support something, you go all up in arms about it, no matter if your argument is legitimate or not! people stick with their own views on things all the time! you know why? cuz others will and they might beat you through hipocrisy, so you are forced to play the same game, even if you are an honest person in general!


... wukong was f*kn awesome

[Uneazy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ

[Zeon did nothing wrong]

Originally posted by Five:

Originally posted by Zeon did nothing wrong:

By your own admission your post is only about a straw man that you can easily tear down? Ok then, I hope you enjoy the paragon only "bioware" slop.

What are you even talking about? If you search Dragon Age Veilguard on youtube you'll get video after video of people complaining about "Top surgery scars" and how you "shouldn't buy this game because it's woke"

Just because Skill Up and Mr Matty made actual, critical reviews and didn't bring up the culture war doesn't mean countless others haven't?

People that I followed on and AGREED with about their Hogwarts Legacy covers like Vara Dark or Rev Says Desu or Hero Hei that went on and on about how the boycotters were cringe because it shouldn't matter what the politics are as long as the game is good

Yet once the politics are on the other side, now suddenly it REALLY matters what the politics are and the game is bad because it has those politics.

Sorry I forgot that the devs of HogwaryLegact said they need to inject their ideology into it...wait there was a trans character in Hogwarts Legacy... No one cared. Bioware devs wouldn't have said they want to push their religious human sacrifice ideology into their game would they have?
Do you have a humaliation fetish? I would rather not play into your kink.

[Jiro Dragonheart]

Originally posted by Five:

Originally posted by Jiro:

I literally dont care that there are those options in the character creator, it's that the game looks incredibly bad. But you should be able to see that the extremes on both sides are the problem. Just try not to be one of the people you complain about.

The game looks mediocre, but I've seen vastly different opinions from youtubers I trust so it's gonna be one of those things that I just have to try for myself and refund it within the 2 hours if it's bad xD

Also yes, extremes on either side are bad. That was my point in an earlier discussion with someone. There are bad extremes on either side, so solely judging one side for their bad actors while ignoring the other is not very productive.

Well I am glad you seem to be taking the right approach then. I just don't know if 2 hours is enough time to really tell. Especially when people at the early press event loved it initially and then many of them ended up not feeling the same once they actually started playing it for their review.

[Five]

Originally posted by bulma:

Lol. A lot of people don't seem to understand what you're trying to say Five. XD

Yea, people are just too blinded and invested in their political team.

Another problem is people read into things and start fighting shadows of what they want to rail against instead of what I'm actually saying so the conversation gets really murky as it goes on

[Five]

Oh my god someone gave me a free clown on every single one of my posts xD

Brother man you need to take a step away from the computer and breathe for a second, don't let an internet discussion upset you or ruin your day <3

Also thank you for all the points ^^

[kcnue]

Originally posted by Five:

Oh my god someone gave me a free clown on every single one of my posts xD

Brother man you need to take a step away from the computer and breath for a second, don't let an internet discussion upset you or ruin your day <3

Also thank you for all the points ^^

must be a psychopath

[Dumah]

Originally posted by Cin-Cin:

The bear is an Elf though lmao.

- not to mention, that it was a nod to long running joke about druid sexual preferences in DnD. Some people take all of this way way too serious.

[Five]

Originally posted by robert.s_a:

Originally posted by Cin-Cin:

Because JK Rowling's views had no effect on the game. She wasn't working on it lol. But the current Bioware and their bs directly affects the game because they are directly working on the game itself. The game doesn't look good even if you put the woke stuff aside.

You probably should put the woke stuff aside. It just distracts from the considerable number of genuine problems with the game. And allows people to use it as a shield.

I'm more concerned with how it seems to be written for children with how you are incapable of being even slightly mean or confrontational. Somehow, i suspect I wont have the option to burn down a Dalish tribe in this one.

Which is thoroughly depressing, thats almost a Dragon age tradition at this point.

Yea there seems to be TONS of problems with the game. It's hard to tell how bad the writing is since none of the reviews I've seen have actually included spoilers but Skill Up's was REALLY scathing.

The only thing that made me consider trying it is that Mort seemed to have a really fun time with it, and he tends to like alot of the same CRPGs that I do so that was a surprise...

[Deus Dex]

You're the one that cares who buys it, obviously.
We aren't going to buy it because it looks like woke trash.
We don't care whether you buy it.

[Cass]

Originally posted by Cin-Cin:

Because JK Rowling's views had no effect on the game.

Yes. But the (attempted) boycott was never about the game itself. It could have been the most pro-trans game in existence but that wouldn't have changed a thing.

It was about the fact that JK was funding (and continues to fund) groups who push anti-trans legislation... and since she gets royalties from anything with the Harry Potter label, the money spent on the game ends up with those groups.

If JK was either dead or the royalties ended up with someone else, there wouldn't have been the (again, attempted) boycott. Because, again, it was never about the content of the game.

The reaction to DAV however is entirely about the content of the game (some objections reasonable, some not).

They're not comparable scenarios.

[kcnue]

Originally posted by Deus Dex:

You're the one that cares who buys it, obviously.
We aren't going to buy it because it looks like woke trash.
We don't care whether you buy it.

B-B-B-B-B-based!

[Thunderlizard]

The author of Harry Potter did not create Hogwords Legacy, she only created the Harry Potter world the game is based on.
And no one said DA:V is bad because the creatores like transgenders, but it's because the creatores use the game to promote their political world views and if you don't agree with them you are a horrible person.
The game just looks really bad to me, even without the political views of the creators i still wouldn't have bought it. The inserted political views just make the game look even worse then it already does.

[Five]

Originally posted by Dumah:

Originally posted by Cin-Cin:

The bear is an Elf though lmao.

- not to mention, that it was a nod to long running joke about druid sexual preferences in DnD. Some people take all of this way way too serious.

Yea it wasn't a real bear, and the amount of people I've heard complaining about how there's 'beastiality' in the game is really funny x3

[Five]

Originally posted by kcnue:

Originally posted by Five:

Oh my god someone gave me a free clown on every single one of my posts xD

Brother man you need to take a step away from the computer and breath for a second, don't let an internet discussion upset you or ruin your day <3

Also thank you for all the points ^^

must be a psychopath

Very well could be <3