Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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Victor Simon 28/out./2024 às 11:36
MrMattyPlays VS Mortismal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCz1ITSy2O8&t=1591s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3h7pO6xLAM

Here we have 2 content creators who seem honest to me, and who like RPGs. Mortismal is an RPG fanatic for sure. Mortismal says that for him it is the game of the year and MrMattyPlays that it is a disappointment.
At this point I think the game is just a matter of taste. So my advice is to try the game for yourself. That's what I'm going to do.
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Wildbreed 28/out./2024 às 15:08 
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Mortismal seems like a decent guy, but he also gushed over Graven, a game that currently has a 59% Steam rating. So he tends to be very lenient when it comes to bugs or design flaws.

In any case, this is why you never buy week one. Let the YouTubers who didn't get early access codes play it and objectively review it free from panic over losing income.

YouTube is already gushing with reviews and they're going about how you would expect: Being divided over political lines. There's a ton of ppl that want to see another giant dud like Concord appear and lose. Such people have high hopes for this game to be like that.

There's no need to wait a week, you can just watch the dozen or so reviews already out to make up your mind and choose to buy it this week if you want it. The culture war ppl have already made up their mind: they want to see another statistic to add to the litany.

Aside from I think ONE character design option on the menu, nobody has said much about the rest of it. It's not Concord, but we're living in the era of misinformation and if a group is hostile enough, they can attempt to convince people "game bad" by bombarding misinformation at the masses to steer it towards failure. And they're also getting paid really well by the mob that do nothing else but rage view media (with a serious helping of far right twists).
the only people who are giving this game high praises are corpo shill Game Journos.
there is no " Group " hostile enough when it comes gaming, hostile towards the whole gaming community that is. The only thing important to them is their money and how to forward their own agenda.
I would take these Individual Youtuber reviews over these Game Journos anyday.
Última edição por Wildbreed; 28/out./2024 às 15:09
NewRaven 28/out./2024 às 15:09 
MrMattyPlays VS Mortismal
Noisy Pixel VS SkillUp

Honestly, these are four reviewers I usually watch and like, but depending on the genre sometimes they differ greatly from my own opinion. While I was with SkillUp with FF16, I'm not sure here, honesty. For example: Mortismal actually has shown and explained a "depth" in his review that SkillUp claimed "just wasn't there". Veilguard for sure will be divisive, that much is for sure...
DuX1112 28/out./2024 às 15:14 
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I actually like him because of that.

He goes out of his way to just present things as they are in the game rather than adding an opinion, unless it's something that warrants criticism; like is objectively bad, not subjectively bad (performance issues.)

His taste in games is pretty spot on for me with like two or three exceptions, Starfield for example.

IMO without any contrast, it's just a grey soup about as informative as reading the game description on the store page.
It really feels like he doesn't want to piss the gaming companies. He sounds like a politician.

Or maybe you're just addicted to exaggerated internet drama? Very few games are actually REALLY amazing or REALLY trash. Very few. Most are "grey soup" aka they have many good sides and many bad sides.
DuX1112 28/out./2024 às 15:15 
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Mortismal seems like a decent guy, but he also gushed over Graven, a game that currently has a 59% Steam rating. So he tends to be very lenient when it comes to bugs or design flaws.

In any case, this is why you never buy week one. Let the YouTubers who didn't get early access codes play it and objectively review it free from panic over losing income.

Why is a 59% rated game a bad game? If anything that's what, 6/10? It means it's above average. It doesn't mean it's bad.
Dumah 28/out./2024 às 15:27 
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Funny how half of the criticism is for Starfield not being a standard Bethesday game, but the other half is for Starfield being a standard Bethesda slop. It's almost as if most of it is nonsense influenced by youtubers or perfectionist expectations.
- thats a perfectly viable criticism, bud. If you personally dont like it, its your problem, as people are entitled to their own opinion and if your are 'tardcore fanboy of Tod Howard, that doesnt mean that everyone should cream their pants over Slopfield.

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Even so that still doesn't mean it's a trash or a bad game. That's the point you're missing. It's so trendy to exaggerate and catastrophize nowadays, it's like a drug. The dopamine from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on games hits better than actually playing games etc.
- i did not missed anything, bud. I specifically wrote that Trashfield was almost decade in development and costed hundreds of millions to make. Under that circumstances it looks rather unimpressive. Cheering for yet another pretty AAA slop simply because it is AAA slop is same as cheering for new Disney/Marvel "blockbuster" movie, it may look pretty, it even could have competent direction, but by the end its just another sloppy Disney/Marvel shlock.

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Same with Veilguard. I bet my money on it actually being a quite decent game. But watch it get review bombed and trashed because always online nolifers can never be satisfied by actually good games anymore. It's either perfection or trash. It's BG3 or it's a disaster. No middle ground. Complete brain rot
- were Veilguard is reviewbombed and trashed? Couple of prominent youtube personalities just said that they did not liked it, boo hoo. What a disaster! How dare they! They are clearly up to no good! Those antiwoke adjacent crypto trumpists!

Touch some grass, bud.
Midnight 28/out./2024 às 15:34 
What I needed to know from a review is whether the combat has depth (it doesn't) and the writing is good (it isn't).

And both reviews pretty much agree on this.

The difference being that for one it's a big deal while for the other it isn't. For me either is a deal breaker so I got what I needed from either review.

The mark of a truly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ review is one that doesn't even give me that information and just heaps vague praise on the game. Which is pretty much all of the big outlet reviews.
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Skeleton Man 28/out./2024 às 15:36 
I heard Mortismal transitioned recently, take it what you will.
DuX1112 28/out./2024 às 15:36 
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Why is a 59% rated game a bad game? If anything that's what, 6/10? It means it's above average. It doesn't mean it's bad.

It's not a quality rating. It's an approval rate.

A 99% could very well mean that 99% of players think it just passes and a 59% could also mean that 59% think it's the best game ever.

Which kinda affirms what I said? if 59% of players (so a majority) approves of a game, and a minority doesn't, this definitely doesn't reflect negatively on a game. More people like it than not etc.
Flavalicious 28/out./2024 às 15:37 
Yea I dunno. Mortismal has been a bit unreliable as of late lol. I have a really hard time believing that someone who LOVES games like BG3 and Pathfinder WoTR and played them like 15 times each from start to finish would find any enjoyment out of a super watered down RPG like DAVG, Outlaws or Starfield. I don't know alot of people who enjoy both extreme ends of a single genre like that, your either a casual pleb or an elitist andy, very few can dip their toes in both spectrums.

When access journalism is involved, its super easy to be sceptical once a channel gets popular enough that the temptation to throw a review for the sake of pleasing a large company becomes more tempting.

Skillup said it was a complete disaster/waste of time. While he has plenty of hot takes, he doesn't have his entire channel built around a single genre, so im more likely to take him closer to his word then either of those other two.
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DuX1112 28/out./2024 às 15:38 
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Or maybe you're just addicted to exaggerated internet drama? Very few games are actually REALLY amazing or REALLY trash. Very few. Most are "grey soup" aka they have many good sides and many bad sides.

It has nothing to with drama,
Great games certainly are rares but trash games you find them everywhere.
Average game on every aspect are extremely rare.

Maybe Gollum or that King Kong game are trash. But I struggle to name more than those... Trash means really really bad. It doesn't mean "mid", or "average", or "so so" etc.
JDPUK 28/out./2024 às 15:39 
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Mortismal likes Starfield, his opinion is invalid

I mean I like Mortismal a lot, easily one of my favorite reviewers though I suspect he's on some of these company's sauce, some of the reviews are some true head scractchers, like you said Starfield for example...
JDPUK 28/out./2024 às 15:40 
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Yea I dunno. Mortismal has been a bit unreliable as of late lol. I have a really hard time believing that someone who LOVES games like BG3 and Pathfinder WoTR and played them like 15 times each from start to finish would find any enjoyment out of a super watered down RPG like DAVG or Starfield.

When access journalism is involved, its super easy to be sceptical once a channel gets popular enough that the temptation to throw a review for the sake of pleasing a large company becomes more tempting.

Money is a powerful thing.
jV (Banido(a)) 28/out./2024 às 15:41 
Mort is now deleting comments that are critical of him and his review. I have messages in my youtube inbox that route to no comment at all because he censored them. Truly a plummet from grace.
Flavalicious 28/out./2024 às 15:43 
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Yea I dunno. Mortismal has been a bit unreliable as of late lol. I have a really hard time believing that someone who LOVES games like BG3 and Pathfinder WoTR and played them like 15 times each from start to finish would find any enjoyment out of a super watered down RPG like DAVG or Starfield.

When access journalism is involved, its super easy to be sceptical once a channel gets popular enough that the temptation to throw a review for the sake of pleasing a large company becomes more tempting.

Money is a powerful thing.

And the thing is, hard to blame him. I found his channel WAAAAAYYYY back and he had a small, but devote following but the guy definitely worked his ass off for literally no payment for years. Not many mortals can work hard for near a decade and not feel the overwhelming temptation to cash in once they finally "make it".

If anything hes short sighted for worrying about if companies like Ubisoft or Bioware care about him. There is a good chance neither of those companies will be around in a year or two, where as his credibility being tainted could be a long term loss. LOL
DuX1112 28/out./2024 às 15:45 
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Funny how half of the criticism is for Starfield not being a standard Bethesday game, but the other half is for Starfield being a standard Bethesda slop. It's almost as if most of it is nonsense influenced by youtubers or perfectionist expectations.
- thats a perfectly viable criticism, bud. If you personally dont like it, its your problem, as people are entitled to their own opinion and if your are 'tardcore fanboy of Tod Howard...

I'm not a "tardcore" fanboy of Todd Howard. I said Starfield is NOT a great game. But it's also not trash. It's a good enough game. If I was a fanboy I would've been praising Starfield but I'm not. I dislike most Bethesday games, I'm being objective. You on the other hand seem to be one more mindless hater. It's the fashion these days but it's super unoriginal
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