Is it that bad?

[BANANA]

How come I see so much complains and bad reviews here in the discussion pages of DA:Veilguard, and on YT, Reddit and other social platforms, but not where it matters, in the Review area of the games store page, it is literally "Mostly positive" I don't get it.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

they arent mutually exclusive. ive seen bad products on amazon like scam custom prebuilts sold as gaming pc with good reviews.

[yb1e]

Culture war, simple, people who play games dont care about this ♥♥♥♥

[kazel90]

U have to buy this game to be able to create a review here. They also payed for good reviews and their employed people will make positive reviews too. Just look metacritics user score

[K1ll3rc0mb0]

Imagine that only people who buy the game can drop a review and that only a small amount of people bought the game because we were warned ahead of time just how bad it was. i dont go to church because i dont like to be preached at. its the same reason i wont play this game. now, only people who dont care or support the preaching in the game bought it and 75% support the game as is and the rest dont.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Halse:

How come I see so much complains and bad reviews here in the discussion pages of DA:Veilguard, and on YT, Reddit and other social platforms, but not where it matters, in the Review area of the games store page, it is literally "Mostly positive" I don't get it.

The explanation is simple: Thousands of people who have played the game and aren't trying to tank the game and the studio with some weird hate agenda enjoy it. They like the game. It's that simple. It's a solid game.

You're seeing a lot of complaints because the hate brigade are working overtime to saturate the forums with threads that speak ill of the game. Why? Because they want BioWare to close down.

[Swans]

Mostly positive sums it up. I’m about 30 hours in and mostly enjoy it. Writing is weak, very poor dialog and paper thin characters, but much of the gameplay is solid.

So I feel mostly positive about it, but it could have been far better, and deserved to be after 10 years.

[Boltergeist]

Remember all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on DA2 and DAI launch?

Its the same, even the same arguments

Its like they havent changed their copypasta clipboard since jade empire

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Originally posted by Damedius:

Because the writing is awful compared to other games on the market. BG 3 that was released over a year ago has more people playing it on Steam. It pales in comparison.

They gutted choice in dialogues. You can no longer be evil or selfish, just different shades of nice/supportive. You aren't even allowed to disagree with anyone.
https://files.catbox.moe/3im089.mp4
Here's a small sample of the writing/dialogue in the game.

u have to understand if they allowed that it would be like disney remaking tarzan as a POC which is completely unacceptable in {currentYear}

[AlmaDarkSpell]

From what I've read on this forum, more than half of the game is engaging in conversation about gender and trans issues. If you're ok with that, go for it.

From what I've seen in reviews, the story and dialogue couldn't be worse. Everything is embarrassing.

About the gameplay, apparently is God of War style combat. Your NPC companions are immortal and you can't use them in combat anymore, like you could in previous Dragon Age titles.

In my case, too many cons. I wouldn't play it even if it was given to me for free.

[theLucifress]

Originally posted by Vale:

But I'm still playing it. And I'm one of the haters. If we check player numbers I'm apparently one of the few of those who actually bought the game. I don't regret it though. "Ignore the Taash, enjoy the game", that's basically my motto.

As someone who is simultaneously a hater myself but also willing to not sweat the small stuff if I'm enjoying the game, I value this sentiment. Like I hated Andromeda, but I didn't mind a couple of bugs on Cyberpunk because it was still playable and hella fun. Currently I have no opinion on Veilguard because I haven't played it yet but it genuinely doesn't look that bad.

But apparently one of the things people seem to take issue with are the "woke" options even in character creation (like vitiligo), but it seems bigoted to care about that. Just like real life, if it doesn't apply to you, let people live and let it go.

[Sneez]

Bioware as a whole, since jade empire, neverwinter nights, since then mass effect and dragon age.

Has been genre defining with interactive and immersive storytelling, first, and gameplay second.

Veilguard is cringe garbage story, with some decent action rpg gameplay.

So alot of people who dont come to bioware for story, enjoy the game, but anyone who's ever played a dragon age game for the story elements, will instantly feel alienated.

Beloved characters from previous games reduced to edgy cameos, lore/worldbuilding is nonexistant in the deluge of cringe dialogue that sounds like a bunch of woke college kids time travelled to Thedas.

[Nathiri]

YMMV. Clearly a lot of people can't enjoy it. That's really where the confusion lies, any potentially valid criticisms of the game are drowned out by angst about a non-binary character and whether it is immersion breaking in a game with magic and dragons.

I think that it's quite normal to have companions that you like or don't like in a game. I think it's weird to judge them based on gender. And instances of dialogue that we personally find cringe probably exists in any game, some more than others.

For my part I'm enjoying it very much and will review it accordingly when I've had time to play more.

[Swans]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

From what I've read on this forum, more than half of the game is engaging in conversation about gender and trans issues. If you're ok with that, go for it..

The thing is, I am 30 hours in and not come across a single gender or trans conversation. So whilst I am sure this exists, it’s obviously not in your face.

Characters and dialog are trite however, very childish and amateur stuff. You’re spot on there.

[Hobo Jack]

Originally posted by Swans:

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

From what I've read on this forum, more than half of the game is engaging in conversation about gender and trans issues. If you're ok with that, go for it..

The thing is, I am 30 hours in and not come across a single gender or trans conversation. So whilst I am sure this exists, it’s obviously not in your face.

Characters and dialog are trite however, very childish and amateur stuff. You’re spot on there.

Taash even with non-binary thing, is really one of the worst mediocre character ever created... i prefer Dogmeat over her all day, all night. Even my boy got more theory than her...

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Swans:

The thing is, I am 30 hours in and not come across a single gender or trans conversation. So whilst I am sure this exists, it’s obviously not in your face.

Characters and dialog are trite however, very childish and amateur stuff. You’re spot on there.

From what I know, if you've played for 30 hours, you've either avoided it on purpose or you don't consider the conversation about being non-binary a gender issue. Because as far as I know, you can't avoid Taash (Trash).