闇龍紀元™: 紗障守護者

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Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 6:29
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The amount of anger this game has inspired is giving me life.
If you're going to complain about the top scars complain about the vitiligo too.
If you're going to complain about the story complain about the other games too.

A lot of people here are just mad a big game has been made that they don't feel is for them. Fine, accept it's not for you and go buy Black Ops you absolute weapons.

Or keep talking about Dragon Age and keep it in the news, I'm sure BioWare and EA don't mind the free publicity.
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Arif 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:28 
yes
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:30 
引用自 Lusid
引用自 Boy
OK then well I guess I'll have to take issue with healing in Thedas being superstition, religion and herbal remedies. They have working prostheses. They have magic that can reanimate the dead. I don't think mastectomies are beyond them.
That's kinda my point. They resort to surgery (which given the time was poor at best) to do these things instead of using what already exists in the setting and would work better: Magic. Magic wouldn't leave scars, and would change someone from one sex to the other. Like actually change them. Cause magic is... magic.
Solas is one of the most powerful magic users in Thedas and to remove the Anchor from the Inquisitor he used a blade. He also stopped to save their life but you'll notice the Inquisitor only has one arm now so we can surmise that regrowing limbs is not possible and that removing them in a controlled way probably can't be done with magic.
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:33 
引用自 Bamsmacked
引用自 Paul Walker
Dragon Age: Veilguard is, in many ways, a return to form for Bioware's beloved RPG series. Right from the start, it’s clear that this game is a return to form in terms of its deep, character-driven storytelling. The narrative pulls you in with complex moral dilemmas, making Veilguard feel like a true return to form that fans of Origins and Inquisition have been longing for.

In its gameplay mechanics, Veilguard is another welcome return to form. The combat system reintroduces tactical elements that reward careful planning, which is a refreshing return to form for players who enjoy strategy over button-mashing. Exploring the beautifully crafted world of Thedas feels like a return to form as well, as each area is meticulously detailed and brimming with lore.

The companions you meet and the choices you make all serve to reinforce Veilguard as a return to form for meaningful interactions. Dialogue trees are rich and allow for nuanced responses, which is a true return to form for fans who miss the emotional depth of previous entries. Visually, the game is stunning, with a dark, immersive atmosphere that marks a return to form in terms of art direction.

Even in sound design, Veilguard shines as a return to form, with sweeping orchestral scores and ambient sounds that bring the world to life. The developers clearly went back to the series' roots, crafting Veilguard as a dedicated return to form across the board. If you’ve missed the magic of classic Dragon Age, then Veilguard is the ultimate return to form you've been waiting for.

You sound like a bot from Metacritic.

I've seen so many "return to form" reviews on there it's insane.
Bots would probably find a few different ways to say "return to form" to be honest.
Player One 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:34 
引用自 Boy
What is your problem with the story? And people being trans is not the story, it's about ancient Elven gods.

The story is just uninteresting and your decision making bears no consequence. The main antagonist or so it was thought, was Sola's but 20 mins in, and he's sidelined and hardly seen again.

I know the story is not about trans. Some of the content around this subject feels like a condescending lecture or lesson on how to act.

This of course, is just my opinion.
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:35 
引用自 DePhoegon
引用自 Boy
Probably another 20 or 30 years of marriage, at least one good car, a new PC and a Dragon Age sequel. I think Mythal can be the antagonist in the next one if the game ends the way I think it will. She wants revenge more than anything and I don't think she's above going after Rook if she thinks she was denied it.
I'll likely drop dead from shock if DA gets another game or two.

Honestly,they needto go back to the drawing board and do what FF has done with it's sequals... not attempt to amend the lore of the past ones with new lore, but keep the entire themes & vibes connected.
You see this is what I don't get. What lore do you think has been amended? What do you think is new? The only thing I can think of is Broodmothers but they've just stopped talking about that, it's not like they've retconned them.
Lusid 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:35 
引用自 Boy
引用自 Lusid
That's kinda my point. They resort to surgery (which given the time was poor at best) to do these things instead of using what already exists in the setting and would work better: Magic. Magic wouldn't leave scars, and would change someone from one sex to the other. Like actually change them. Cause magic is... magic.
Solas is one of the most powerful magic users in Thedas and to remove the Anchor from the Inquisitor he used a blade. He also stopped to save their life but you'll notice the Inquisitor only has one arm now so we can surmise that regrowing limbs is not possible and that removing them in a controlled way probably can't be done with magic.
Unless they get into the explanations of why their magic can heal some things but not others, most likely its just becase "poof, i did the thing" is boring storytelling. Magic is fantasy. Magic is make believe. It can do anything you want it to. The writers didn't want magic to do that. And they don't want magic to do sex changes either. Not because magic can't, but "just because".

It reminds me of those pitch meeting videos.
"Why can't he just do it with magic?"
"Unclear" continues on with the story
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:38 
引用自 Player One
引用自 Boy
What is your problem with the story? And people being trans is not the story, it's about ancient Elven gods.

The story is just uninteresting and your decision making bears no consequence. The main antagonist or so it was thought, was Sola's but 20 mins in, and he's sidelined and hardly seen again.

I know the story is not about trans. Some of the content around this subject feels like a condescending lecture or lesson on how to act.

This of course, is just my opinion.
Your opinion is fine and valid, I just don't know why some people have an issue with issues in this game when there was a trans character and a preachy loading screen in Inquisition they didn't have an issue with.

If you didn't like the previous games either, that's fine. If you have an issue with art style/gameplay/etc, fine. I just find it weird how many people are saying how they love the franchise but this one is somehow different when it's the most BioWarey game that ever BioWared.
Muscarine 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:39 
I'm sad one of my favorite franchise has been turned into a joke to the point i will pretend it doesn't exist anymore

If you're so intent on buying games just for the purpose of getting your good person stamps on your good person card because you support the poor little oppressed minorities, because you're good like that

The go buy this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1262350/SIGNALIS/

It was made by two people, an enby and a woman, the two main characters are lesbians, but more importantly the writing is amazing instead of suck balls first degree tumblr refugee fanfiction
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:43 
引用自 Lusid
引用自 Boy
Solas is one of the most powerful magic users in Thedas and to remove the Anchor from the Inquisitor he used a blade. He also stopped to save their life but you'll notice the Inquisitor only has one arm now so we can surmise that regrowing limbs is not possible and that removing them in a controlled way probably can't be done with magic.
Unless they get into the explanations of why their magic can heal some things but not others, most likely its just becase "poof, i did the thing" is boring storytelling. Magic is fantasy. Magic is make believe. It can do anything you want it to. The writers didn't want magic to do that. And they don't want magic to do sex changes either. Not because magic can't, but "just because".

It reminds me of those pitch meeting videos.
"Why can't he just do it with magic?"
"Unclear" continues on with the story
You say this like magic and how it is used isn't a point in every DA game. For instance, the fact Qunari mages use an entirely different magic set. Personal blood magic being acceptable in Tevinter. Spirit possession vs demon possession. Hell, the Veil itself!

You are correct that there's a lot we don't know but we DO know a lot and one of the things we've never seen is anyone who regrew a limb via the use of magic. If they're making that decision on the fly then they were very lucky to never have contradicted that in any of the other three games when they were also making decisions on the fly!
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 7:46 
引用自 Muscarine
I'm sad one of my favorite franchise has been turned into a joke to the point i will pretend it doesn't exist anymore

If you're so intent on buying games just for the purpose of getting your good person stamps on your good person card because you support the poor little oppressed minorities, because you're good like that

The go buy this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1262350/SIGNALIS/

It was made by two people, an enby and a woman, the two main characters are lesbians, but more importantly the writing is amazing instead of suck balls first degree tumblr refugee fanfiction
What is it in this game that you think turned DA into a joke? Honestly interested in the answer because I am a bit of a fan of the franchise (to the point of having attended BioWare functions and met the main people behind it) and I can't think of anything lore related that made it into this game that wasn't in a previous one. It's one of the safest storylines I can think of because there's literally nothing in it that wasn't at least hinted at in previous games.
Muscarine 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 8:03 
Well let's take an example

For reference, my favorite game is actually DA2 (minus Mark of the Assassin), and in my opinion the worst we had until DAV was Awakening, specifically but not exclusively in regards to narration, narrative designs and writing in general

So i'm not even your regular DA fan since for the most part DAO is the favorite

In any case, that leads us to Isabela, a character i absolutely loved

Do you really think, that the lying, egoistical, manipulative, promiscuous and greedy pirate who also happens to be an independent caring and loyal companion/partner with a heart of gold, would bend over in apologies because she used the wrong pronouns ?

The woman who sold slaves to Tevinter for a while, by necessity and not by choice, sure, but still

Who spends the entire game exchanging literal insults with Aveline - she gets called a ♥♥♥♥♥ to her face - for what amounts to one of the most hilarious rivalries in the history of RPG writing to me

Who actually gets a better romance resolution if you don't grovel at her feet but become her rival instead

Did she really need to get her face smashed with the ugly hammer, and her tits flatten by the HR bulldozer ?

This is what this franchise has become, stomped on the altar of ableism, trigger warnings, inclusive grandstanding (take a moment to go and check how the butchered other languages) to become the blandest inoffensive HR approved mush on top of talking to you like you're actually r worded at every opportunity
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 8:13 
OK, I'm going to pick up on a few things here and the first is boob size. Do you not remember the furore when Bethany had smaller boobs in DA2 proper compared to the intro (which was released as a teaser)? Or Morrigan's reduction in DAI? Why is it THIS GAME is the one where it became a problem for you?

As for the ugly hammer, Isabela has never looked the same in any two DA games if you remember meeting her in the Pearl in DAO. Again, why is it THIS GAME where that is a problem for you?

I can understand people having issues with the series in general but I don't understand why it's Veilguard where the line has been drawn given it has literally nothing new for the franchise.
Muscarine 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 8:21 
Inquisition had a lot of writings on the wall, too many to go into details, but before you think that, no, it wasn't Krem or Dorian, i really enjoyed those characters

I would have taken Krem as a companion any day in fact over Iron Bull complaining about boob armor when he runs around showing his nipples to everyone

How can you write this and not see the irony, and how has it essentially become the baseline for DAV's writing

I'm not sure what kind of controversy you're refering to regarding the Hawke sisters cup size in the intro, it's still there, it's Varric

The first time he recounts the intro to Cassandra, you're playing a completely overpowered super hero Hawke with cringe Marvel punchlines, end game armor and giant tits

That's the joke

But in DAV, cringe Marvel writing is actually the norm, and tits are shameful and offensive
最後修改者:Muscarine; 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 8:22
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 8:30 
The intro for DA2 was released as a playable demo before the game came out so people didn't realise Varric is an unreliable storyteller and they got mad about Beth's boobs being smaller once the game actually starts.

And yes, the writing was on the wall. In large, clear, legible type as you point out! So I'm amused by the idea Veilguard was "sprung" on people like a bait and switch. If anyone had an issue with "wokeness" or similar bollocks they should have an problem with Inquisition first.
Boy 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 8:34 
There were also the people asking why Hawke couldn't romance Bethany, but on a sliding scale that has to be the wokest viewpoint, yeah? https://steamcommunity.com/app/1238040/discussions/0/2998794978539683217/
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