Veilguard just took a dump on Grey Wardens.

[Rain]

Got this on PlayPro for a month, but here is what just happened.

I am playing a Grey Warden. Backstory is you have been a Warden for a while. I just picked up Bella and low and behold...DARKSPAWN.

Yet, it wasn't Rook who sensed it or pointed it out...it was f*cking Bella who treated it as a f*cking surprise.

This blatantly contradicts everything expected of Grey Wardens because of the joining in established in Dragon Age: Origins. Alistair literally points out that Grey Wardens CANNOT be taken by surprise by Darkspawn because they can all sense Darkspawn.

This is a f*cking joke.

[Kunakic]

From my understanding they could really only sense the darkspawn from a couple dozen of metres away. Which in the underground tunnels and caves they prefer can be quite the advantage.

And if memory serves, no one in the first game was surprised about the massive darkspawn army. Having ample warning of its approach. I recall they were much more shocked that the Fereldan army wasn't able to hold them back and were defeated by the darkspawn.

[DudeBro69]

It's not Dragon Age.

The name is carrying this game because this ♥♥♥♥♥ cannot stand on it's own two feet

[ThexxOutlaw]

It's mentioned multiple times that the Blight is different in this game, changed by Ghil'inain. But it's your perogative, I enjoyed the game.

[Insanieac]

^^^^

facts

[JayS86]

The Veilguard didn't just get Grey Wardens wrong, they got the whole Elven race wrong, because these writers couldn't turned an enslaved faction into the 'bad guys' who were following Solas, as we learned in Trespasser. They dumbed down the Crows massively, turned them into a spanish pre-school mafia. These people were supposed to have their hands into everything shady they could possibly get into. We meet them and they're so watered down that they're boring and tedious to deal with. Crows are human/supply traffickers, they groom children into assassins, and they weed out their deemed weak members through contracts against them. They are high in the intelligence world, highly skilled, and trained. We know the most about the Crows, and they did the bare minimum with that faction.

We were going to an entirely new place that we heard about, but never stepped a physical foot in. So, to get around advancing the lore, the inciting incident that begins the game completely removes much of the meat of the city, the religion, the government, landscape, feel and tone of the area. It was a gross underwhelming mess of a decision.

Of course they did the bare minimum of every faction, race, religion, and government. Just enough to talk about it in a few cut scenes and codex entries, but as a player I felt little to nothing for any of it.

So, it wasn't just the Grey Wardens, it was all of it. We got a shallow shell of everything we interacted with - even the Elven Gods.

[Valkyria]

So you only played Origins and you think that makes you a master of the lore? Lol.

Did you even read the books?

[Dreaming Prince]

Originally posted by Illuminary:

Don't you Dump regime fans have another federal building to illegally occupy? How are you fragile incels gamers if all you do is cry?

you need to pull a barf and stop that sexual shaming

[AS9ARDIAN]

To be honest, this happens only in the first encounter, and it's not like Rook is taken by surprise by the Darkspawn (they are literally a few meters in front of you). The developers simply decided to emphasize Bellara's reaction with a cutscene [probably because you just recruited her thus that quest ("In entropy s grasp") heavily relies on Bellara as a companion in general].

In every other encounter Rook is the one that sense the Darkspawn and state something about it (especially in Hossberg Wetlands) or Davrin if he is in the party.
You also have a quest later in the game "Something Wrong" about it, more or less.

Should they have added a different cinematic where you have Rook warning the others (If he has a Grey Warden backstory)? Yes, probably.

Does that blatantly contradict everything in the lore? Not at all really.

Op kinda overreacted here.