Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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Getting a lot of Stuttering. Anyone Else? Solutions?
I'm seeing a lot of stuttering in my game. Particularly in transitions in/out of cut scenes, but also just running around and periodically during combat.

I have a i9-13900 and 4070 TI. Shouldn't have any issues. I tried capping the FPS at 60 using NVidia Control Panel just to see if it helped and so far nothing. Anyone else seeing this?
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I've found a workaround in case it works for anyone else. I'm experiencing the same intermittent stuttering regardless of settings or how high the framerate happens to be. I'm running a 4090 with i9 13900K and 32GB RAM @ 7200 with latest updates and drivers - overspec for this. I tried multiple different settings from Low to Ultra, going through all the suggested settings troubleshooting, even tried the registry mod from nexusmods mentioned without any success until I stumbled onto this solution for now (it's an easy and dumb solution but it seems to work and will only work so long as you are using Controller and not mouse/keyboard). For whatever reason, so long as the Windows desktop or taskbar is active, the rendering of the game window itself appears to run without any stutter whatsoever in the background at full quality.

Steps to Repro the Workaround:

- Launch Game and go to Settings
- Set screen mode to Windowed Borderless
- Boost your settings to whatever you feel your GPU can handle
- Set Audio > General > Mute While Minimized to OFF (will explain later)
(warning, this is where it gets real dumb)
- Press Windows key to tab out
- have a lightweight program window open (ie notepad or the Steam client window itself)
- resize the window if needed and just drag it as far as you can to the bottom corner so it's out of the way as much as possible BUT still active and "on top" of the borderless game window
- Make sure the Taskbar behavior is set to auto hide (you can do this beforehand) so that it doesn't obstruct the game window
- position the mouse cursor to far edge of screen so not obstructing BUT make sure you don't click into the game window (otherwise the Game Window will become active and you're back to stutterland) this is why you need to be using a controller.
- Now, you should be able to control the game with the controller and if you set the Mute while minimized audio to off you will also have full audio - even though technically this game window is being rendered in the "background".
- You can even run Steam Overlay In-Game if you want to check FPS, etc. while you continue to tweak quality settings.

I'm running Full ULTRA settings (including Full RT) with 110 FOV on a 32:9 (5120x1440) with 80-100FPS - only this time I'm running at those rates WITHOUT stuttter using this method. Admittedly it's a pain in the butt to rig up and it's not a perfect solution but it works.

Regarding a potential patch or more definitive fix - any thoughts as to why rendering the game in the background alleviates the stutter - all things being equal - as opposed to game window running active in foreground? Why would this work at all?

Anyway I hope this works for anyone else hoping to get their game up and running this weekend without excruciating stutter madness...
I reduced my refresh rate to 60 Hz and then I didn't get any flickering at all. So it seems the game struggles to support 120 Hz or 144 Hz.
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Lumen 2. Nov. 2024 um 4:30 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ColorsFade:
Anyone else seeing this?
There is a thread here on the forum related to shader cache problems,
someone in there claimed that you probably have to install a bios upgrade to fix such issues.
With your hardware there should be no stutters at all on max settings unless you run from hd.
}{exaR 2. Nov. 2024 um 13:51 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Roxas:
try this. It was triple buffering for me https://www.pcguide.com/software/how-to/fix-dragon-age-the-veilguard-stuttering/
Disabling Triple Buffering fixed the stuttering problem for me, too. Thanks a lot!
Okay, so I hopefully this helps other people. I tried all of the fixes listed, but still had issues. Eventually doing the following worked for me. I'll caveat this with it could be an issue with my SSD. I first installed the game on my primary SSD - noticed no matter what I did as far as settings and changing power option the game would lag and have 100% CPU. I eventually moved the game off my SSD (you can do this under steam options) to my non SSD. The game now runs as it should and no CPU spikes to 100%. I'm attempting to move the game back to my SSD (after freeing some space).

If you have this option - try it. Otherwise my other suggestion is free some space on the current SSD and do a re-install (painful I know). Keen to hear if this helps anyone else, feel free to let me know as it was driving me insane.
Olskid 2. Nov. 2024 um 16:16 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ColorsFade:
I'm seeing a lot of stuttering in my game. Particularly in transitions in/out of cut scenes, but also just running around and periodically during combat.

I have a i9-13900 and 4070 TI. Shouldn't have any issues. I tried capping the FPS at 60 using NVidia Control Panel just to see if it helped and so far nothing. Anyone else seeing this?

There is CPU bottleneck at times. My Ryzen 7 7700 hits 100% usage with a RX 7800 XT. I guess it is the same with the i9.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von h1pn0t1c2000:
Okay, so I hopefully this helps other people. I tried all of the fixes listed, but still had issues. Eventually doing the following worked for me. I'll caveat this with it could be an issue with my SSD. I first installed the game on my primary SSD - noticed no matter what I did as far as settings and changing power option the game would lag and have 100% CPU. I eventually moved the game off my SSD (you can do this under steam options) to my non SSD. The game now runs as it should and no CPU spikes to 100%. I'm attempting to move the game back to my SSD (after freeing some space).

If you have this option - try it. Otherwise my other suggestion is free some space on the current SSD and do a re-install (painful I know). Keen to hear if this helps anyone else, feel free to let me know as it was driving me insane.

Alright, moving back to SSD - and performance issues again. So I've decided to just run the game on my non SSD. It's weird I can't work out what is causing the CPU spikes and bad performance when running this on SSD. Guess I'll wait for some patches..
So far, for me the game is one of the best and optimized PC releases this year, I expierience ZERO stutter and the FPSs are high - I'm on and I9 10900X and RTX 4080 on na nVME drive - any setting, 4k res - the game is running very very well. ATM I'm actually running it in 2160p with DLAA on, Ultra preset. I cannot get even close to that performance on titles like Cyberpunk for example. Also just check DF review they say similar things and they are always very honest.
For 13/14th Intel please check your CPU - could be the known issue with Intel degradation. if you can RMA it - update your BIOS with the latest microgcode and retry. Unfortunatelly if Intel is already Damaged the BIOS update wont fix it - will just stop the degradation.
Windows 11

- Open the game installation folder
- Right-click on the executable file 'Dragon Age The Veilguard.exe'
- Choose the Compatibility tab
- Choose the following options from Settings
- Disable full-screen optimizations
- Click on the 'Change high DPI settings' button
- In 'Program DPI' choose 'Use this setting to fix scaling problems...'
- Save all these new settings

I hope it helps; it worked miracles for me
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bestone:
Windows 11

- Open the game installation folder
- Right-click on the executable file 'Dragon Age The Veilguard.exe'
- Choose the Compatibility tab
- Choose the following options from Settings
- Disable full-screen optimizations
- Click on the 'Change high DPI settings' button
- In 'Program DPI' choose 'Use this setting to fix scaling problems...'
- Save all these new settings

I hope it helps; it worked miracles for me
Dont give me hope
Here's what finally solved for my particular setup after having tried everything suggested here first: If you use Norton Antivirus (probably just use literally anything other than Norton if you can) turn OFF Game Optimizer. I'm not sure exactly which tweaks it is using to "optimize" performance but by turning this off it completely resolved the stutter I was experiencing and having to workaround for this game in particular - worth noting that I've never had to adjust this for other games that I've played it just doesn't play well with this one. Perhaps this will work if you are using similar antivirus solutions with a game optimizer type feature. Running all settings on ultra with full RT and very smooth performance (without having to tab out to run windowed borderless in BG as previous workaround). I reset all other suggestions mentioned here in this thread and have isolated it to that setting in Norton just to verify that change in particular seems to be what worked for me. Seems like maybe an obvious one to try but hope that helps anyone else in similar situation.

Rig: 4090(24GB)/13900K/32GB RAM(7200)/5120x1440(@240hz)
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Jackal 3. Nov. 2024 um 10:16 
stuttering i think is a cpu problem not a gpu,
Tily 3. Nov. 2024 um 10:22 
reduced all mine to medium setting even when it should e able to run maxed out runs fine except for bugs and unkillable dragons
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ColorsFade:
I'm seeing a lot of stuttering in my game. Particularly in transitions in/out of cut scenes, but also just running around and periodically during combat.

I have a i9-13900 and 4070 TI. Shouldn't have any issues. I tried capping the FPS at 60 using NVidia Control Panel just to see if it helped and so far nothing. Anyone else seeing this?
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This problem is caused by the nvidia platform controllers. Uninstall nvidia graphics drivers in safe mode via DDU. Check the ddu menu, at the bottom, to not install drivers automatically. Then go to normal mode, download nvcleanstall, check only the boxes in the display driver section and install only the graphics drivers. Never install drivers in the geforce experience components section or geforce experience itself. Reboot and you will be missing nvidia platform controllers in device manager and it will show up as another device with a question mark. It won't even update via device manager. If you want it back, check the NV Platform Controllers box in the geforce experience components section via nvcleanstall. If the problem with lag in games persists, repeat the entire procedure, but do not install the NV Platform Controllers driver. It looks like a microsoft issue that is still not fixed. Write to support and report this issue.

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