Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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Ka-mai19 Dec 5, 2024 @ 7:27am
Taash is the third most popular romance option
Just behind Neve and Lucanis. This forum would have you believe that they'd be the most unpopular one, lmao.

Win for non-binary romance.
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Ka-mai19 Dec 6, 2024 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by Rain:
Idle curiosity is a powerful force. Doesn't mean that people would get within spitting distance of such a puerile individual in real life if they could run in the opposite direction.

Men aren't into tall-buff women? Taash is non-binary but they definitely fit that archetype.
Chara H Dreemurr Dec 6, 2024 @ 2:59pm 
" The above takes a fair amount of time+effort and not to mention money. If someone who hates the game+Taash did this I'd be concerned for their mental health. "

Not better than the mentals who played this game, loved it and romanced taash danlekalsson.
To each their own :)
Ka-mai19 Dec 6, 2024 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by Chara H Dreemurr:

Not better than the mentals who played this game, loved it and romanced taash danlekalsson.
To each their own :)

Who is more concerning: people spending their free time obsessing and hating on a videogame that they never plan to play/engage with or people simply enjoying the videogame?

Yes, to each their own :)
CBonduMiel2 Dec 6, 2024 @ 6:55pm 
Tbh i only play the game to see for myself how bad the game is, and to decide for myself if i want to buy any of future bioware game. i don't plan on romancing tash but neve. but the bad press this game has is unbelievable, thing is the "haters" as you called them are not wrong. Game and companies exist to make money, if they didn't made any money with their 650k sales across all platform so far, which they clearly didn't and the possible cost of the game being in the hundred of millions as is for any AAA title, this game hasn't even made any money to begin with.

which means bioware will likely forced to shut down if mass effect 5 doesn't do well enough to compensate for dragon age the veillguard lack of profit. So mass effect 5 has to work for its own profit and has to make the profit back from dragon age the veilguard if bioware want to have any factual justification for EA to not close the company down. There are websites already stating they only made a gross revenu of around 35.2 millions dollars, so to say this was a success for bioware by mentioning a romance option in the game isn't gonna help make your point.

Fact are, this game is not a successful one and most people don't wanna buy it. This is what happens when you cater to such a small portion of the market.

Most hardcore gamer are straight men and most of us don't like to be lectured on genders identities and others ideological concept in a video game. it's just not the kind of things what most people who call themselves "gamers" like to have in their games.

For instance i am an hardcore gamers and disagree with the direction bioware have taken in the last few decades. I disagreed with them when the bioware community banned people on reddits back in the dragon age 2 days for disagreeing with the direction the franchise should take.

Yet, i stilled played the games because they weren't preaching to me an ideology i want nothing to know about, they were just making a good games that sold well, and it sold well because it was good. I only bought this game to decide for myself if i want to start boycotting bioware products or not.

and there are plenty of investigation showing that all that ideology comes from EA and started from a turkish women who volunteer at EA and got promoted by a feminist productor at EA and then they started to implement a DEI framework in every single one of their game development process, its been a known things for years in the french gaming youtuber community. There are even videos of people investigating this stuff and not for EA and for all of the big AAA studios.

That turkish women also has ties to the world economic forum, which clearly has a set vision of its own utopia for the future, which would be bad for a lot of people, if not the majority of people.

So i tend to disagree with you trying to make a point about a characters, when we all know you're doing to try and justify you buying a bad game that didn't sold well and would likely be one of the cause that will close bioware down.

The fact people romanced her doesn't save bioware from doom nor does it make the game a good game, it just mean people romance her in game, that's all, it has no effect on the quality of the game nor of its sales numbers. Most of the sales any games makes is usually at launch, and so if this game only sold 650k across all platform like some very credible website seems to mention, well, let's just say the game peak sales period is long past and the bulk of the sales are already done and if they only made 35.2 millions from those 650k sales, the game is a flops.

Plus the game has many technical issues and bug and will likely not be addressed by bioware due to them having to stop supporting it early as is often the case with most sinking ship when games are concerned.

So, brag all you want about taash romance, it won't change reality that this game isn't good on both a technical and financial level and that artistically its not a dragon age game that people are a fan of, at least not like any of the previous dragon age games that is.

You can try to justify your purchase all you want, it doesn't change reality.

Reality is un-moving at your emptied threats at bending it, because it cannot be bend unless you can controls and rewrite the laws of the universe, aka physics, etc.

So unless you can do that, there is not point in you trying to make a post like this, you're just embarrassing yourself in front of millions, you should just stop and admits defeat, it would be easier for everybody.

All the hits you try to bend reality with through lies and manipulation or even force, reality and therefore people will dish it will just absorb everything you throw at them and dish it back to you later on at a single point in time.

It will actually hurts more the more you try to bend it. So its best to just stop before you hurts yourself even more later down the line, through the consequences of your own action.

People usually do not like others people trying to control others by coercion, force or subversion, and its exactly what you are trying to do here, a futile attempt at trying to improve the sales of a games that is already dead and has been dead since before it released.

Best to cut your losses in that case, lest society shows you how hard the pendulum can swing the others way, by starting to remove everything what that ideology like feminism and transgender has given you and others people and it will be the majority of people doing it too.

You are only buying time, time that you will progressively run out faster and faster the more people like you push for these kind of stuff and the more you prolong it the harder the fall will be.

You are essentially making it harder for people who believe in the same stuff as you to improve their life later down the road.

If you believe women and LGBT+ people are oppressed now, you have seems nothing of what humanity can do to itself when it oppress people. What you call oppression is in called freedom and what you want is superiority or supremacy over free people and free people tend to not like that and so you best believe they will fights and act in whatever way they can to stop people who hates them from controlling them.

You will not win, people will be free from you trying to impose your will on them. You can't control people like that without expecting consequences and consequences are a coming.

This time, it will be people losing their job because they believe in something that most of their target demographic disagree with and the instant they started to inject it into the process of how they make their products is the seconds they started to corrupt whatever good they were doing and its the instant they also set their fate.

the consequences are always delayed compared to actions, this time its a few years of delay. doesn't change the fact the consequences a fated to come and that there is nothing anybody can do about it.

Laws of causality working as intended, as it should if you ask me. There always consequences to causes, the cause is the ideology we see seeping into society, consequences are not yet fully known but will be known in due time, its only a matter of time before they occurs, and there is nothing anybody can do it about it, aside than changing the cause of what made the consequences occurs in the first place and to try again next time you have a chance, which might not happens for a long time.

people have given people like you multiple chances and you blew every single of those, maybe you and the dev should've think about not injecting those kind of stuff into their products before releasing it. maybe EA shouldn't have introduced a DEI framework into all of their studios dev process. But one thing is certains tho, as long as that framework is present in the dev process, games will flops and companies will close and people will lose their job and suffers. All because people like you can't be satisfied with what you already have and always want "more" for yourselves.

It will only leads to your doom bro, best if you stop before you and people like you gets burned by the rest of society because if they do, you won't like it at all.

Just look at human history for a source of reference as to what happens when a minority tries to take over a society and that way bigger than itself and see the results that are confirmed and happened every single time. It always ends with the smaller groups fading into obscurity until they don't exist anymore. that's the future that you are working toward, unless you join the future that everybody else believe in that is, in which case, we would welcome you with open arms.
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MajorStranger Dec 6, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by CBonduMiel2:
Way too long monologue

Please step down from the soapbox. I don't want to see you hurt yourself.
Ka-mai19 Dec 6, 2024 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by CBonduMiel2:
snip.

This is just a video game, sir. You are welcome to ignore it and engage with any other type of content that suits your fancy.

May I recommend touching some grass as well? You sound like someone who is chronically online and is losing their grasp of reality.
¡Pøndø! Dec 7, 2024 @ 12:27am 
Is it because they're a non-binary character? Or is it because they're a qunari?

Stats won't tell you that.
Boh Dec 7, 2024 @ 1:43am 
Is this like saying the third most popular seasoning for dog meat?

how many ppl have played the game long enough to romance any one, how many chose to then how many of those people are in the first 2 options
Ka-mai19 Dec 7, 2024 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by AquaryusDelights:
That's ironic, since you made this thread.

And people are welcome to ignore it and move on with their lives. I guess if they want to write 20 paragraphs going on an ideological tirade it's their prerogative but, like I said, people who do that would have a better time touching grass.
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talemore Dec 7, 2024 @ 4:32am 
I doesn't matter if they do it because they hate the character, them still love Taash and keep talking about her.
Ka-mai19 Dec 7, 2024 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by DarkXessZ:
Which you clearly missed my point. You only narrowly reading the statistics of 30% of the people who actually got that far to romance someone and decide hey this statistics is trustworthy. Yeah for only people who like the game who end up reaching to the part romancing someone. It's unreliable without even showing us the actual numbers of how popular it is. You are potentially saying 1k people romance Taash and got third place is popular lol.

What is unreliable in stating, "of the people who romanced characters in our game, these were the top choices"? Why would they add statistics from people who didn't romance anyone or didn't progress the game?

We know that roughly 25% of the people who bought the game completed it, which is par for the course in terms of videogames. Witcher 3's achievement stats indicate that only about 25-30% of the people who played it actually finished it. If CDPR gathered stats from that percentage and presented results, like who romanced who, would they also be fallible?
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DarkXessZ Dec 7, 2024 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by Ka-mai19:
Originally posted by DarkXessZ:
Which you clearly missed my point. You only narrowly reading the statistics of 30% of the people who actually got that far to romance someone and decide hey this statistics is trustworthy. Yeah for only people who like the game who end up reaching to the part romancing someone. It's unreliable without even showing us the actual numbers of how popular it is. You are potentially saying 1k people romance Taash and got third place is popular lol.

What is unreliable in stating, "of the people who romanced characters in our game, these were the top choices"? Why would they add statistics from people who didn't romance anyone or didn't progress the game?

We know that roughly 25% of the people who bought the game completed it, which is par for the course in terms of videogames. Witcher 3's achievement stats indicate that only about 25-30% of the people who played it actually finished it. If CDPR gathered stats from that percentage and presented results, like who romanced who, would they also be fallible?
Yes, the so called popularity ranking is fallible showing not enough data to us because if so called 90k and 30% of that playerbase end up choosing who to romance, who got how much slice of the pie? Also the amount of players who play the game is already small enough, taking 30% is just even smaller. You are trying to potentially magnifying a ranking as huge importance, but the data only show ranking number not how many. Saying sure it's 3rd, but how many people did romance Taash that put her in 3rd place? we might have nearly 90% of people romance the 1st rank companion. then every other companion romance is only small slices and possibility it is very close in numbers over all balanced and close. Therefore, unless the stats give me percentage or number, i dunno how popular 2nd and 3rd or any of the people ranking is. All it tells me is 1st beat 2nd beat 3rd in popular vote by 1-infinite.
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Ka-mai19 Dec 7, 2024 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by DarkXessZ:
Yes, the so called popularity ranking is fallible showing not enough data to us because if so called 90k and 30% of that playerbase end up choosing who to romance, who got how much slice of the pie? Also the amount of players who play the game is already small enough, taking 30% is just even smaller. You are trying to potentially magnifying a ranking as huge importance, but the data only show ranking number not how many. Saying sure it's 3rd, but how many people did romance Taash that put her in 3rd place? we might have nearly 90% of people romance the 1st rank companion. then every other companion romance is only small slices and possibility it is very close in numbers over all balanced and close. Therefore, unless the stats give me percentage or number, i dunno how popular 2nd and 3rd or any of the people ranking is. All it tells me is 1st beat 2nd beat 3rd in popular vote by 1-infinite.

Well, I suppose we should throw out most video game surveys that include ranking systems of sorts considering most gamers don't finish the games they play. There's a reason why games like Witcher 3 are praised as some of the best of all time but have incredibly low completion rates. Stats like, "Yennefer is the most popular romance choice" would be flawed considering most players didn't even get a chance to actually pursue the romance and see its completion.

The way I see Veilguard's poll is that people who liked the game and played through it didn't hate Taash. In fact, it seems like many enjoyed them. These forums would have led you to believe that Taash would be unanimously hated. They weren't.
Ka-mai19 Dec 8, 2024 @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by AquaryusDelights:
So you made the post and expected people to not reply too it and then insult them if they don't agree with you? Sounds reportable actually...

I'll just repeat what I said:

"And people are welcome to ignore it and move on with their lives. I guess if they want to write 20 paragraphs going on an ideological tirade it's their prerogative but, like I said, people who do that would have a better time touching grass."

If people want to reply they can reply, if not then not. That's how forums work lol.

I love how I'm living rent free in your brain as you keep coming back to this thread. Thanks for the engagement!
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