What will happen to Bioware now?

[Prince Ian]

Now that Veilguard has completely bombed. Does their survival depend on a Hail Mary with Mass Effect?

[GM Morgan]

Has it completely bombed?

[GM Morgan]

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

Originally posted by GM Morgan:

Has it completely bombed?

SAO? yes.

Damn. You've got me dying over here. Well played.

[Elvi]

They all move to ME and once that releases, EA might finally axe them, if it's of the sales appeal and quality Veliguard was. Shame, but probably should've happened after Andromeda.

[Elvi]

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

Originally posted by Elvi:

They all move to ME and once that releases, EA might finally axe them, if it's of the sales appeal and quality Veliguard was. Shame, but probably should've happened after Andromeda.

once again telling people who don't do their research that the team behind ME5 is not the same as veilguard's.

Yes, and if you did your research, all the writers from Veilguard are now on the ME team, and seeing how writing is why Veilguard is horrible, that is not a great sign. Even if the poor game director is all "Hey, so, ME has nothing to do with Veilguard yeah? Guys? Nothing... I promise.".

If tehy said the combat team or the art design team moved to ME, it would be fine, but the writers... well, good luck.

[Thaura]

Originally posted by Elvi:

They all move to ME and once that releases, EA might finally axe them, if it's of the sales appeal and quality Veliguard was. Shame, but probably should've happened after Andromeda.

yes it's in line with Andromeda, good gameplay but the writing and character design are catastrophic

[Cameron]

Angry Joe said he heard they are working on Mass Effect now and are abandoning this game. No DLC or anything.

[CrazyOdd]

Originally posted by Elvi:

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

once again telling people who don't do their research that the team behind ME5 is not the same as veilguard's.

Yes, and if you did your research, all the writers from Veilguard are now on the ME team, and seeing how writing is why Veilguard is horrible, that is not a great sign. Even if the poor game director is all "Hey, so, ME has nothing to do with Veilguard yeah? Guys? Nothing... I promise.".

If tehy said the combat team or the art design team moved to ME, it would be fine, but the writers... well, good luck.

Where does it say that? ME5 was in production at the same time as DAV, meaning moving writers over, is close to pointless. ME5 team would maybe benefit from the extra artists and coders, but not more writers.

At the end of a release, writers and producers, usually start working on the pre-production of the next game, unless there is a major layoff or other changes to staff...

[GM Morgan]

Originally posted by Elvi:

Originally posted by bayomaycry:

once again telling people who don't do their research that the team behind ME5 is not the same as veilguard's.

Yes, and if you did your research, all the writers from Veilguard are now on the ME team, and seeing how writing is why Veilguard is horrible, that is not a great sign. Even if the poor game director is all "Hey, so, ME has nothing to do with Veilguard yeah? Guys? Nothing... I promise.".

If tehy said the combat team or the art design team moved to ME, it would be fine, but the writers... well, good luck.

Given the length of time ME5 has been in development, even if the DAV writers are working on ME5 its in support roles. Besides, even if they ♥♥♥♥-canned everyone who worked on DAV from the QA up to executives the usual suspects are gonna start calling it the same things they call everything after the next trailer.

[Mewsha]

Originally posted by TenFour:

Angry Joe said he heard they are working on Mass Effect now and are abandoning this game. No DLC or anything.

Out of curiosity what would the DLC even be about? The entire purpose of this game was tying up plot points from the Tresspasser DLC that released almost ten years ago.

They won't be able to work on another DA game for at least another five years because of the extended development of this game. Why would they release DLC setting up something else?

More importantly, why are so many people conditioned to want DLC instead of getting everything up front for the price paid like we used to?

[Dr. Atrocious]

This is their development team right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6qH48bslA

[GM Morgan]

Originally posted by Mewsha:

Originally posted by TenFour:

Angry Joe said he heard they are working on Mass Effect now and are abandoning this game. No DLC or anything.

Out of curiosity what would the DLC even be about? The entire purpose of this game was tying up plot points from the Tresspasser DLC that released almost ten years ago.

They won't be able to work on another DA game for at least another five years because of the extended development of this game. Why would they release DLC setting up something else?

More importantly, why are so many people conditioned to want DLC instead of getting everything up front for the price paid like we used to?

It's so weird that people are like "They sold me a complete game! What a failure."

They can take the work on this, make some improvements, and just make a whole new game instead of DLC. It's not a novel concept, but you'd think it is all the sudden.

[Rune]

Nobody who worked at classic BioWare is still left and their name is now tainted, so there is really very little incentive to keep the studio around. They'll probably massively downsize it and use it for something else, or close it all together when it's done with Mass Effect. That way they don't get sued by the wo(o)kies.

[GM Morgan]

Originally posted by Rune:

Nobody who worked at classic BioWare is still left and their name is now tainted, so there is really very little incentive to keep the studio around. They'll probably massively downsize it and use it for something else, or close it all together when it's done with Mass Effect. That way they don't get sued by the wo(o)kies.

They just downsized last year and spun off SWTOR to its own company.

[Mewsha]

Originally posted by GM Morgan:

Originally posted by Mewsha:

Out of curiosity what would the DLC even be about? The entire purpose of this game was tying up plot points from the Tresspasser DLC that released almost ten years ago.

They won't be able to work on another DA game for at least another five years because of the extended development of this game. Why would they release DLC setting up something else?

More importantly, why are so many people conditioned to want DLC instead of getting everything up front for the price paid like we used to?

It's so weird that people are like "They sold me a complete game! What a failure."

They can take the work on this, make some improvements, and just make a whole new game instead of DLC. It's not a novel concept, but you'd think it is all the sudden.

LOL

No like actually I don't think these people are truly thinking about the things they're being told to say sometimes.

There's such good things about this release that we all should be applauding. I certainly have my criticisms of the game, but they released a stable game without Denuvo and the EA app at $60 USD on PC and the DLC is truly just cosmetic addons.

I despise DLC personally. I'm whatever about cosmetic things being DLC, but content DLCs were the first step toward the monetization hellscape we exist in today. No Denuvo, no content DLC, like these are things I want all games to start implementing.

[ImplosiveErection]

ngl, i was kinda wondering where they were getting the money to advertise this game so much. then i remembered E. A. SPORTS. IT'S IN THE GAME. last several non-sports ea titles have bombed like hell. EA is barely even AAA at this point.