Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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pjedilord Nov 29, 2024 @ 5:18pm
Is Dragon Age 4 Better Than Nothing?
Do people think it's better to have Dragon Age 4 than nothing?
Its game that people can play and enjoy the best for what it is?
Do people put aside game due to it does not meet their vast expectations?
Is it better than nothing and wait another 2 years for Mass Effect 4?

Company only did Dragon Age 4 quick job to keep the people going while we
wait for their flagship Mass Effect 4? Dragon Age 4 is not only games that
does not meet people's expectations, many others have.

Do people think Mass Effect 4 will be special being worked on by another team?
How can company prevent mistakes from Dragon Age 4 for ME 4? Does it prove
having prequel companions is better?
Originally posted by Mewsha:
That's tough for several reasons.

There are good things in this game. The gameplay is genuinely fun, and you can tell that the development team had adequate time there. But the writing is so bad, and that's truly what I play DA games for.

I enjoyed seeing the settings that I've only heard about from characters like Dorian and Zevran, or from the books. It just sucks that they're devoid of much else. There's zero political intrigue in this game.

I think the original screw up was trying to create a whole game based around being a sequel to the Tresspasser DLC. It's clear this game suffered multiple development directions that seemed to impact the writing team more than any other. The ending is very well done, but I don't think it's necessary to include like 40% of this game to get there.

The ending just reinforces my belief that they knew how they wanted to end the story, just not how to get there, which is funny when you think about how heavily inspired this series was by A Song of Fire and Ice.

They wrote themselves in a corner, and it doesn't seem like anyone had enough sense to say, maybe there's another way we can close out this story, either by another DLC for Inquisition, or maybe that's what the animated series should have aimed for.

I would have much preferred a whole different story for my first time in Northern Thedas. This game is also almost entirely skippable except for that ending that closes out Solas and the arc that began in Inquisition. Everything else has no larger impact on the world and you get the feeling that's deliberate because this game took longer than expected, meaning they needed to jump from this game quickly into the next ME game.

I don't think the ME franchise was left on the same kind of cliffhanger, and it's also a series I don't think would suffer nearly as much as DA does with this contemporary writing style. The modern words and phrases are like nails on a chalkboard in Thedas. I don't think ME is going to have as many direction changes as this game had.
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DaylightDemon Nov 29, 2024 @ 5:25pm 
i think if this game had a loot and shop randomizer mod it could be a very enjoyable game to replay.
but to be honest the story is not interesting enough imo and i dont even mean the compagnions arcs those are cute. but the main story just doesnt deliver. it feels very generic and predictable. nothing that happened was particularely thought provoking or emotional to me.

right now for me its a 6-7/10. i dont regret playing it but regret having bought it at full price.

combat is pretty enjoyable but overstays its welcome once you found a build that works (kinda like diablo)
Last edited by DaylightDemon; Nov 29, 2024 @ 5:26pm
Insanieac Nov 29, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
personally i'd rather have nothing then an utter disappointment that does such a disservice to the fan base and to what the original writers established.

At least with nothing there's room for imagination to do the work for those who wanted something more, instead setting up canon that retcons and ruins what has already been.
Salamilid Nov 29, 2024 @ 7:19pm 
Like the Stars Wars sequels, they shouldn't have been made.
StrongArm Nov 30, 2024 @ 4:34am 
I would have rather got nothing. This trash cheapens the entire franchise
Infidel Nov 30, 2024 @ 4:54am 
I regret buying it.. I have tried a couple times to finish it but to me it's so bad I went back for another play through of BG3.. I'm concerned for ME as well since we saw how they cut Miranda's butt shot out of the Legendary Edition.. "Bioware : "We changed some camera angles to prevent the "male gaze"" The staff at Bioware clearly hates straight men so unless something changes over there that franchise is doomed as well.
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Mewsha Nov 30, 2024 @ 4:56am 
That's tough for several reasons.

There are good things in this game. The gameplay is genuinely fun, and you can tell that the development team had adequate time there. But the writing is so bad, and that's truly what I play DA games for.

I enjoyed seeing the settings that I've only heard about from characters like Dorian and Zevran, or from the books. It just sucks that they're devoid of much else. There's zero political intrigue in this game.

I think the original screw up was trying to create a whole game based around being a sequel to the Tresspasser DLC. It's clear this game suffered multiple development directions that seemed to impact the writing team more than any other. The ending is very well done, but I don't think it's necessary to include like 40% of this game to get there.

The ending just reinforces my belief that they knew how they wanted to end the story, just not how to get there, which is funny when you think about how heavily inspired this series was by A Song of Fire and Ice.

They wrote themselves in a corner, and it doesn't seem like anyone had enough sense to say, maybe there's another way we can close out this story, either by another DLC for Inquisition, or maybe that's what the animated series should have aimed for.

I would have much preferred a whole different story for my first time in Northern Thedas. This game is also almost entirely skippable except for that ending that closes out Solas and the arc that began in Inquisition. Everything else has no larger impact on the world and you get the feeling that's deliberate because this game took longer than expected, meaning they needed to jump from this game quickly into the next ME game.

I don't think the ME franchise was left on the same kind of cliffhanger, and it's also a series I don't think would suffer nearly as much as DA does with this contemporary writing style. The modern words and phrases are like nails on a chalkboard in Thedas. I don't think ME is going to have as many direction changes as this game had.
dulany67 Nov 30, 2024 @ 6:06am 
Yes. I personally found the gameplay loop fun. And it was nice to get some questions answered plus closure on the story.

Obviously, I'm not fond of the writing and tone, but ultimately glad they put out the final chapter.
Replica Nov 30, 2024 @ 6:55am 
A final chapter and it not leaving me with bile in my mouth like how Mass Effect 3 ended? I loved this game a lot- it's got a hold on me so for me, the question is do I think this shows that we won't run into another scenario where instead of this game which by even critics, has an amazing third act, where a game single-handedly burrows into the ground?

The idea behind that was the best ending (chuckle writers in a room coded), "Synthesis" would be the equivelent in this game of merging with the Blight and living in harmony with Archdemons and the Evanuris.
They were so spiteful over the Extended Cut that sandpapered over "destruction of mass relays leads to system wide destruction" that people can actually get a 'bad ending' by accidentally shooting the genocidal AI directing the Reapers that they added.

Whatever you feel about this game, is nothing compared to what fans were put through after ME3. DA:V has been much better but a lot of that is a solid game that wasn't hacked and made with glued on "sell more" DLC in mind.

I've always been into the Elves and the Elven lore in this series though so a game that catered to that was going to do things for me.
Etragorn Nov 30, 2024 @ 7:48am 
Better than nothing would be a good way to describe this game.
GlorFindel1983 Nov 30, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Yeah, it would be better to have nothing instead of this; just like it would be better to have nothing instead of Next Mass Effect, as they will make another game like this just in ME universe and ruin that too!

:cozybethesda:
Xazomn Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:10am 
This RPG is RIP for me. I need some more then an expensive photomod game. I went back the oldies DAO,DA2,DAI & ME trilogy. Oh my so many choices that mean something, s exiting re-play a game. What gonna choose thiis time, what kind of character i am gonna play. Gonna be a good person, or a bad one this time. As long the job gets done kind of way. Nice to see some bad companions, well at least with some darker past . DAV doesn't mean anything for me...3 choices. "return to form" and RPG, all lies
Gengisgame Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:51am 
Even for arguments sake, say after paying for it, and tolerating some of the questionable content, you still ended up enjoying it, this game wasn't made in a bubble, it's an existing IP, its cashing in on the the brand, the awareness of past customers, so there are warranted expectations, to trample on those expectations means while still using the IP is sadly very common now. It's like viewing your past customers as pigs to the trough, that they will accept whatever slop they are given as long as it has the brand, as the company chases new customers.

Have some basic self respect, don't give money to people who look down on you.
Frankenberry Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:57am 
The game should never have been released. It's a game that is beyond terrible.
ThotsBContagious Nov 30, 2024 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by pjedilord:
Do people think it's better to have Dragon Age 4 than nothing?
Id rather nothing came to be.

Making sequels to squeeze out money is what kills franchises from tv shows & movies to books & games.

Example time; I loved Star Wars growing up. Now Disney owns it and they pump it out like a factory to make $. Bioware isn't pumping it like Disney but this game definitely feels like they spent too much dev $ so they have to sell the game to at least break even.
Last edited by ThotsBContagious; Nov 30, 2024 @ 10:50am
Waiting for sales like in 2 years later. I want a cool minotaur like Qun character... They gave me a slannesh like weirdo. I am not paying full price for it.
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