thanks to this game i found an accurate review system

[bLowdeeez]

i learned how to get some accurate reviews. going to the review tab on top of this page and looking at helpful reviews of all time shows how crappy this game is even thou it says mostly positive overall.

sad that theres games that are mixed and even negative that have alot more positive helpful reviews while this garbage being mostly positive has less to even almost non existent positive helpful reviews. you have to scroll down a few pages before you even see the first positive one.

metacritic is review bombed although this game deserves it, mainstream sites are biased and full of cuckery, youtube is about 50/50 and steam is kinda off unless you look at the helpful reviews.

rip dragonage, not very hopeful for mass effect. sad to see these iconic companies go down ex ubisoft, ea, bethesda probably a few more.

[dulany67]

Most Helpful is just review bombing for poor people.

[Vassago Rain]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Steam score is actually the most consistent one, it's just inflated and needs to be read differently. For all intents and purposes, it's not 0-100, it's more like 60-100 with 80 being average. Below 60% is mostly horrible games, or disastrous releases. 70%, or however much Veilguard has right now, is a rather poor score for steam.

This is correct. Also, all big name titles always have mega inflated review numbers, which is why most of them sit in the 90s. This dragon age doesn't have anywhere near the same review inflation as most other quarter billion dollar titles, which kinda tells you all you need to know about how much faith EA had in it ever doing well.

[bLowdeeez]

ok makes sense now thanks

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Steam score is actually the most consistent one, it's just inflated and needs to be read differently. For all intents and purposes, it's not 0-100, it's more like 60-100 with 80 being average. Below 60% is mostly horrible games, or disastrous releases. 70%, or however much Veilguard has right now, is a rather poor score for steam.

[Vassago Rain]

Originally posted by Termix:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Steam score is actually the most consistent one, it's just inflated and needs to be read differently. For all intents and purposes, it's not 0-100, it's more like 60-100 with 80 being average. Below 60% is mostly horrible games, or disastrous releases. 70%, or however much Veilguard has right now, is a rather poor score for steam.

It would be nice, if Steam released a more nuanced (1-5 or 1-10) score system instead of 0 or 100.

As you said, the current system inflates the score a bit.

Or Valve could limit reviews to accounts that have earned the super basic community badge, own and have played at least 10 games for a certain amount of hours, and have a minimum amount of money spent in total, OR another minimum amount of money spent over a short period.
This would balloon marketing costs for companies, but wouldn't affect actual steam users one bit.

[✠Wagner✠]

Originally posted by bLowdeeez:

i learned how to get some accurate reviews. going to the review tab on top of this page and looking at helpful reviews of all time shows how crappy this game is even thou it says mostly positive overall.

sad that theres games that are mixed and even negative that have alot more positive helpful reviews while this garbage being mostly positive has less to even almost non existent positive helpful reviews. you have to scroll down a few pages before you even see the first positive one.

metacritic is review bombed although this game deserves it, mainstream sites are biased and full of cuckery, youtube is about 50/50 and steam is kinda off unless you look at the helpful reviews.

rip dragonage, not very hopeful for mass effect. sad to see these iconic companies go down ex ubisoft, ea, bethesda probably a few more.

I said some negative things about this game without being crude, and my comment was removed after a few minutes.

[Quacksalber]

Why do people who have not played the game insist on posting their opinions as to its quality on this forum?

If people actually played it without having made up their minds prior, while being conscious of all the lore (including books) and the canon world state, at the same time as realising 10 years have passed and the game will inevitably be different, and comprehending that in this game we are not a random person, but someone known to and picked by Varric, they might actually be capable of enjoying it. Add to that the multiple reboots, all the people leaving/being fired, the fact they are inevitably beholden to higher ups and marketing making twits, and just try to have a realistic approach to the game instead of expecting them to have had a post BG3 epiphany and magically pulled DA:O 2 out of their behinds in less than a year.

Apparently being super negative and inflexible matters more though, and maybe that's why Bioware thought it was better to try to target new players as opposed to droves of people hell bent on hating every new game no matter what. If I were them, I'd just ditch both ME and DA at this point and switch to single entries as this fandom is permanently grouchy.

[76561199799860408]

Originally posted by EH!:

Why do people who have not played the game insist on posting their opinions as to its quality on this forum?

That's the Bioware effect, it never stopped, and wait 10 years changed nothing.

But at this point, EA would be idiots to continue try use the Bioware trademark, and let be honest the DA IP is nothing amazing and can be trashed nobody care.

[Deroldsen]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Steam score is actually the most consistent one, it's just inflated and needs to be read differently. For all intents and purposes, it's not 0-100, it's more like 60-100 with 80 being average. Below 60% is mostly horrible games, or disastrous releases. 70%, or however much Veilguard has right now, is a rather poor score for steam.

Yeah, pretty much any major scoring is weighted. Published sources WONT use less than a 5/10, and typically not even that. Steam does bias upward, but would need some more analysis to fully understand why. Actually find metacritic users to be relatively fair.

[Deroldsen]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Originally posted by Deroldsen:

Yeah, pretty much any major scoring is weighted. Published sources WONT use less than a 5/10, and typically not even that. Steam does bias upward, but would need some more analysis to fully understand why. Actually find metacritic users to be relatively fair.

Steam score has a weight factor based on the number of reviews. It increases the score when the reviews are few, but it becomes irrelevant after like 1000, maybe even less.

My issue with metacritic is that anyone can write a review, regardless of owning/playing a game, and the can do so repeatedly. It's rarely an issue, but when there is a lot of commotion around a game, the score is affected dramatically, cause they manifest in 0s and 1s, instead of simply a negative review. Same with positive review, albeit to a lesser extent.

Steam's inflated scores are a product of the binary recommendation system, which to be honest I don't mind. They need to be read differently than 0-10 scoring system, but they filter out the extreme opinions. Take Veilguard for example. In steam they are just negative reviews, but a lot of them translate to 0-2 in metacritic, giving it an average of 2.5 on pc. I can ♥♥♥♥♥ about the game all day, but that score is insane.

Seems about right to me, the game has no redeeming qualities. The gameplay is bland and derived. The writing is god awful and doesn't even adhere to lore. Art style is cartoony. Party is non existent. Marketing was forced and dishonest. Hell, even the programming IS NOT DONE WELL. Go look at the technical problems: controller problems, memory leaks, save corruption. Those are big failures. It totally deserve a 3. At its best its maybe a 5. Is metacritic a bit overly harsh, perhaps, but I see that as balancing the forced "professional" reviews that give everything a 9/10

[bLowdeeez]

if i would have bought the game and got burned by it then yes i would of considered myself naive. ive seen the gameplay, this is not a DA game. i might try it on game pass but these votes is whats going to "make gaming great again"

Originally posted by Dacelith:

Originally posted by bLowdeeez:

i learned how to get some accurate reviews.

It's more you show how naive and a sheep you are.

Haters joined to up vote negative reviews.

There's even a Steam group dedicated anti Veilgard created before release, pathetic, and naive people as you love being manipulated, the world is crazy.

[bLowdeeez]

Originally posted by Lupin III:

Originally posted by bLowdeeez:

if i would have bought the game and got burned by it then yes i would of considered myself naive. ive seen the gameplay, this is not a DA game. i might try it on game pass but these votes is whats going to "make gaming great again"

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

the evidence is clear its crap. like i said ive seen the gameplay, writing all of it. its not a DA game.

[Talbrys]

It's amazing the newer generations' penchant for blindly following corporate advertising when disguised as some kind of third party opinion. Not much different from the scams targeting seniors designed to confuse the victim into believing made up testimony was real. Did no one teach these kids to think for themselves and do their own research (trick question we all know the answer)?