47 hours in. Where is the 'woke' propaganda I was warned against?

[Alvin the Elf]

I'm just over 47 hours in game. Being a completionist, I haven't skipped any quest or dialog. I think I'm nearing the end of act 2. So far I have come across maybe one brief dialog where a bisexual companion says she prefers women over men. And one codex entry (not dialog) which describes how sexuiality is seen in different parts of Thedas. That's it. No other mention of sexuality or gender identity or anything even remotely 'woke' so far.

Where is the propaganda that you guys said would be rammed down my throat? Is it ALL in act 3? Does it happen after the game is finished? Is it a paid DLC that I have not bought?

(Don't trust my Steam played hours, I restarted a few times from Rogue to Warrior and from Antivan Crow to Shadow Dragon, plus I AFK at times, so the number is much higher.)

[smidlee]

引用自 Alvin the Elf：

引用自 smidlee：

Do you think people made up all those videos where the game is preaching to the players about pronouns? All those videos are fake?

Hmm. YouTube videos probably picking apart a few minutes of dialog for views or my own experience of 47+ hours of playing the game itself. I wonder which one I should trust.

But the left wing preaching is in the game. I agree with Metatron if you like the game then that's fair but don't deny there is American left ring politics in the game. He gave an example of right wing politics of Dragon Age " Make the Kingdom Great Again" where you build the wall to keep blue haired elves out , there is a "woke" virus spreading throughout the kingdom, etc.
Stop denying the preaching is in the game.

[Roderic]

So Bioware ran out of great story ideas and put Taash's quests concerning her sexual identity in the game, as well as options to customize yr character to be neither a man nor a woman. Is this what I wanted in the newest Dragon Age game? No, not really. But is it as bad as propaganda? Or just bad writing? Shrugs.

[Alvin the Elf]

引用自 max：

Dude, this is a game from the wokest company on earth, of course they inserted colored Elves here and there. But they were rare, and you actually had to look for them.
In the DAV they are everywhere.
Hence my original point. Elves of Color are DEI.

So your point is that Dragon Age was always 'woke'?

I agree.

[Nathiri]

引用自 smidlee：

Do you think people made up all those videos where the game is preaching to the players about pronouns? All those videos are fake?

I suspect a lot of it is probably presented out of context.

I played through the entire companion quest line for Taash and got all the scenes, and my experience of them and reaction to them is very different to the shock and horror being peddled here.

For example- the notion that Taash is angry, hostile and rude, citing their interactions with Emmrich as never being resolved (false). I wondered if this was a result of avoiding Taash where possible and thus not ever allowing any character growth.

And them being "angry" with the player when they discover their mother is missing and there's a pool of her blood on the floor. The idea that briefly snapping at Rook when being angry, stressed and worried for their mother is somehow inappropriate or unreasonable is telling.

So yeah, i'm thinking there's a certain lack of context. As there was also with the infamous push up scene, as if it were entirely serious and lecturing, which it was not.

[smidlee]

引用自 SiNRabbit：

引用自 smidlee：

Do you think people made up all those videos where the game is preaching to the players about pronouns? All those videos are fake?

Yes, the videos where some sweaty weirdo whinges on youtube about the game are based on fake situations.

The game doesn't do it in a preachy way. It's like, what, 3 lines if you ignore Taash's story entirely, and maybe 8 if you do their story? None of which is preached. Just handled as a thing that happens and is accepted.

I disagree. Those scenes were clearly preaching. There is good evidence the writers are political activists.

[jclosed]

There are maybe three lines of text in a thousand upon thousand lines of text, that can with a bit imagination considered to be "non-straight".

The rest is the imagination of those "wokiewokiewokie Beep Beep" hate train idiots and brain-dead nobody's that see "woke" in every corner of the universe and get upset about it...

[Alvin the Elf]

引用自 smidlee：

引用自 Alvin the Elf：

Hmm. YouTube videos probably picking apart a few minutes of dialog for views or my own experience of 47+ hours of playing the game itself. I wonder which one I should trust.

But the left wing preaching is in the game. I agree with Metatron if you like the game then that's fair but don't deny there is American left ring politics in the game. He gave an example of right wing politics of Dragon Age " Make the Kingdom Great Again" where you build the wall to keep blue haired elves out , there is a "woke" virus spreading throughout the kingdom, etc.
Stop denying the preaching is in the game.

There was 'left wing preaching' in Fallout, Bioshock, Wolfenstein. I mean there was a lot more, but these were some of the most obvious. That's not the issue, though. Read my initial post. I was told that this game has woke propaganda everywhere you look. Now I tried hard to find it, and found only a couple of lines of dialog in all of 47 hours. That doesn't seem like being rammed down my throat.

[[SiN]Rabbit]

引用自 smidlee：

引用自 SiNRabbit：

Yes, the videos where some sweaty weirdo whinges on youtube about the game are based on fake situations.

The game doesn't do it in a preachy way. It's like, what, 3 lines if you ignore Taash's story entirely, and maybe 8 if you do their story? None of which is preached. Just handled as a thing that happens and is accepted.

I disagree. Those scenes were clearly preaching.

No they're not.

[smidlee]

引用自 jclosed：

There are maybe three lines of text in a thousand upon thousand lines of text, that can with a bit imagination considered to be "non-straight".

The rest is the imagination of those "wokiewokiewokie Beep Beep" hate train idiots and brain-dead nobody's that see "woke" in every corner of the universe and get upset about it...

It's referred to the boiling frog syndrome. We had to fight the political woke crowd from our local schools who trying to influence children with their ideology.
It only takes a little poison to make a otherwise prefectly good steak deadly.

That's how TV ads work. You insert a 30 second ad to an hour show can influence people to buy your product.

[Alvin the Elf]

引用自 smidlee：

It's referred to the boiling frog syndrome. We had to fight the political woke crowd from our local schools who trying to influence children with their ideology.

The ideology that we should be respectful and accepting towards people regardless of their gender, sexuality, color, or creed?

Yeah, heaven forbid!

[smidlee]

引用自 Alvin the Elf：

引用自 smidlee：

It's referred to the boiling frog syndrome. We had to fight the political woke crowd from our local schools who trying to influence children with their ideology.

The ideology that we should be respectful and accepting towards people regardless of their gender, sexuality, color, or creed?

Yeah, heaven forbid!

That's a religious belief that I'm opposing that all ideology and religious beliefs are all equal. This is the boiling frog syndrome as talk shows for decades like Donahue and Oprah tried to influence people with relativism , the idea all cultures, religious beliefs, and ideologies are equal.
They were extremely successful to get people to accept relativism including having people claiming one time "There is no truth."
That is the poison the media have being preaching for decades.

[[SiN]Rabbit]

引用自 smidlee：

引用自 Alvin the Elf：

The ideology that we should be respectful and accepting towards people regardless of their gender, sexuality, color, or creed?

Yeah, heaven forbid!

That's a religious belief I'm opposing that all ideology and religious beliefs are all equal. This is the boiling frog syndrome as talk shows for decades like Donahue and Oprah tried to influence people with relativism , the idea all cultures, religious beliefs, and ideologies are equal.
They were extremely successful to get people to accept relativism including having people claiming one time "There is no truth."
That is the poison the media have being preaching for decades.

Fair. After all, we shouldn't be accepting of neonazis, or their antiwoke sort.

[DaisyRay]

引用自 max：

Wow, you must be either blind or one of the tribe to not see it. The entire game is soaking in it.
- Childish dialogues with everyone being cheery supportive and accepting. No disagreements allowed.
- Elves of Color for diversity
- Neve has a peg leg for inclusion
- Emmrich is someone we used to call "creepy uncle", no it has nothing to do with necromancy. He even created his own little Pinocchio to have relations with.
- Therapy session after each major mission, and if you did Solas memories then after each of them.
- Barves for mispronouncing
- The entire Taash quest line which is contrary to lies in this very thread is not just 3 minutes.
- Your character has to use pronouns without your consent. No way out of it.
- The default facial expression on everyone is smiling, even when talking about death.
- Every companion is bi except for Taash who is non-binary but lesbian (she likes Lace)

1. She is childish yes, but I am wondering now if because she's been emotionally stunted because of the control her mother had over her. All the signs are there.
2. Elves of color always existed ...
3. Neve is always doing dangerous jobs, it makes sense she would lose a leg or something if you bothered to figure out what kind of person she is.
4. The idea that you think Emmerich is having relations with his friend ... is really disturbing and says something about where your mind goes. I think you are the creepy uncle in this scenario. Emmerich even ends up in a relationship...with another person. Stop being weird.
5. It's not a therapy session, you guys are literally trying to save the world. Why wouldn't you talk about that?
6. Barves is something they chose to do as an apology for not using Taash's pronouns. It's not forced on anyone.
7. The majority of her quest is about being brave enough to speak to her mother and then the rest is something completely different. As someone who isn't the biggest fan of this, I know it's not that much talk about non binary.
8. Who cares?
9. I agree, that one is weird. I pointed that out too. My rook is officially a psychopath.
10. Non binary is not a sexuality, every companion is pansexual. Which means you can romance any of them no matter your gender. For someone complaining about all the woke stuff, you clearly missed the explanation of what non binary is.

[Quacksalber]

People are either absolute zealots when it comes to other people's sexuality / gender identity, or have not played the game / don't form their own opinions.

If you are playing the game in English, there's hardly anything woke. There's Taash being non binary, an npc that brings up being non binary, and the option to play as trans/non-binary/gay/bisexual.

I'm not going to claim they did the whole non binary dialogue well - it's quite naff, but it's not a big deal - people need to chill tf out. Their other issue is they cannot kill Taash, which is all you need to know about them, and people yelling about how they did that in BG3 are the reason we probably won't be able to kill everyone in future Larian games, as they did not intend their game to be abused by bigots as a sim for killing specific groups of people.

[decizion]

引用自 Murdoch：

The character creator has pronouns and you can have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ surgery scars. You're blind if you didn't see it before the game even came out

Baldur’s gate 3 is lot more woke than Veilguard…