Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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< joltzz Nov 9, 2024 @ 1:59am
Recommended PC Specs
So Bioware listed out the specs for the game and I was pretty amped about it. They listed 1080p/60 / High: 3700x / i9-9900k and an RTX 2070 / 5700xt

I'm rocking a 3060ti and an i7-10700K so I'm right in that High spec range yet, I'm suttering and my FPS is tanking in the cities and even sometimes forests. Why bother listing those specs if they aren't actually meeting the 1080p/60 threshold? I don't really understand.
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< joltzz Nov 9, 2024 @ 2:15am 
They list 1080p/60 for this range. Do I just lock this ♥♥♥♥ to 30? I don't really want to but walking around Antiva or Arlathan Forest, I'm going from 60 to the high 30s/low 40s lol.
< joltzz Nov 9, 2024 @ 2:20am 
GPU: 3060ti
CPU: i7-10700k
MOBO: MSI Z490-A Pro
PSU: 650w Gold
Ram: 16gb Ram
1tb NVME SSD

All of this is in line with what was posted on that spec sheet. I don't know, I'm guessing they mean 'mostly' 60 on that sheet spec they put out, but not always haha.
iameatingjam Nov 9, 2024 @ 2:33am 
I'm not aware of any significant bottlenecks in this game, I just came from ff16 where vram was everything. But this game is pretty consistent in its vram use and I can see it running well on a 8gb card on the right settings.

Anyway, sorry, I don't really have enough information to answer your question. You have closed all other applications? You have done an integrity check? Have you checked windows for corruption?

( you can use commands like

sfc /scannow

And

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

run in an elevated command prompt)

You have checked task manager to make sure you no have services eating up resources (like malware for example)

Have you run stability tests on all your components to make sure there's no issue with them?

reinstalling windows is always something you can do to eliminate all software-based problems. Easy if you have a drive/partition just for the OS. More difficult if you don't....

The possibilities are really endless. It is a pc afterall. Thats one of the downsides of using one over a console, you may have to do troubleshooting, especially on aging hardware.

Good luck. I would help you more if I knew more about the game, technically speaking.

EDIT: And you have turned all raytracing off, right?
Last edited by iameatingjam; Nov 9, 2024 @ 3:04am
https://youtu.be/y5lJOAfDckM

just mimic his settings, and u probably want dlss and frame gen on no rt
iameatingjam Nov 9, 2024 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by AdahnGorion:
Originally posted by iameatingjam:

"AMD AM4 CPUs on Windows 11 require AGESA V2 1.2.0.7 or newer"

The OP is using Intel, not AMD. Hence why nobody have mentioned AGESA

My bad, I was thinking the 3700x I read in the OP, but that was from the requirements.
iameatingjam Nov 9, 2024 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by Angel:
That may be the i7 part of your specs.

should be more than enough for 60 fps.
< joltzz Nov 9, 2024 @ 3:15am 
It is 'much' of the time. Most places I hover around 55-60, but in Treviso or Minrathous or that spirit gathering area at the crossroads, those places tank me to about the high 30's and low 40s lol. I guess my CPU is just ancient at this point. (Gotta upgrade soon I wager).
iameatingjam Nov 9, 2024 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by < j:
It is 'much' of the time. Most places I hover around 55-60, but in Treviso or Minrathous or that spirit gathering area at the crossroads, those places tank me to about the high 30's and low 40s lol. I guess my CPU is just ancient at this point. (Gotta upgrade soon I wager).

Well what do your utilization statistics say? That should tell you if the cpu is the culprit. Look at gpu utilization. If its lower than say 95% with all frame limitters off, then yeah its most likely the cpu at fault though ram may play a small part.

EDIT: another thing you can do is change resolutions. cpu doesn't care much about resolution. so try running at 720p, if performance improves, gpu problem, if it doesn't, cpu problem. Simplifying of course, there's more at play, but thats the gist of it.
Last edited by iameatingjam; Nov 9, 2024 @ 3:31am
< joltzz Nov 9, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Oh yeah, throwing up Task Manager while cruising around one of the cities or super high NPC areas, shows my 10700k at 100% usage. Not even Starfield or Cyberpunk 2077 do that (I just tested those today). Running around New Atlantis or Dogtown by Mr. Hands club, most I got outta those two was about 80%.

I guess Bioware considers 9900k / 3700x range 60fps experiences in this one 'most' of the time lol. I would wager others would have the same experience I'm having then with similar specs. Oh welllll, still enjoying this flawed but very fun game! :)
iameatingjam Nov 10, 2024 @ 1:59am 
Originally posted by < j:
Oh yeah, throwing up Task Manager while cruising around one of the cities or super high NPC areas, shows my 10700k at 100% usage. Not even Starfield or Cyberpunk 2077 do that (I just tested those today). Running around New Atlantis or Dogtown by Mr. Hands club, most I got outta those two was about 80%.

I guess Bioware considers 9900k / 3700x range 60fps experiences in this one 'most' of the time lol. I would wager others would have the same experience I'm having then with similar specs. Oh welllll, still enjoying this flawed but very fun game! :)

That does suggest a cpu bottleneck. I would test with proper tools though. GPU utilization is what you want to pay attention to not CPU utilization. Use HWINFO or RTSS, or even HWINFO would better than task manager.
iameatingjam Nov 10, 2024 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by < j:
Oh yeah, throwing up Task Manager while cruising around one of the cities or super high NPC areas, shows my 10700k at 100% usage. Not even Starfield or Cyberpunk 2077 do that (I just tested those today). Running around New Atlantis or Dogtown by Mr. Hands club, most I got outta those two was about 80%.

I guess Bioware considers 9900k / 3700x range 60fps experiences in this one 'most' of the time lol. I would wager others would have the same experience I'm having then with similar specs. Oh welll, still enjoying this flawed but very fun game! :)

I still feel like we could find a way to get you some better performance. You shouldn't be hitting 30 fps at 1080p....

You've turned all rt off right? What about level off detail? That would affect cpu. And you made sure everything else is closed, right? What about checking for unnecessary apps and services running in the background?.... have you uninstalled onedrive ?? Any room for overclocking ram? CPU too but yeah I realize intel probably didn't leave much skin on the bone most likely. Use hwinfo and make sure you're running at max boost, if you're not, and you're at a high temperature, perhaps you're thermal throttling and you could do an undervolt to help with that. Or perhaps repaste your cooler. Or maybe you need a new cooler? What do you have?
MjKorz Nov 10, 2024 @ 3:22am 
Game is masterfully optimized. I played it on a Ryzen 5 7500F + 7900XT at 1440p resolution with everything cranked up to Ultra except ray tracing which was set to Selective (AMD GPU, duh). No upscaling, no framegen and for AA I used Native FSR AA instead of the horrendous TAA. Game ran perfectly smooth while providing absolutely stunning visuals locked at 60 fps except for ONE particular waterfall in the endgame which destroyed my fps to about 30 when looking directly at it.

This is literally THE most visually stunning game I've ever played and it ran unfathomably well, considering that I was using ray tracing on an AMD GPU. Compare it to something like Capcom's REngine slop that can't provide stable native 60fps at 1440p on ANY hardware and this feat of optimization looks even more impressive.
Last edited by MjKorz; Nov 10, 2024 @ 3:23am
< joltzz Nov 10, 2024 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by iameatingjam:
Originally posted by < j:
Oh yeah, throwing up Task Manager while cruising around one of the cities or super high NPC areas, shows my 10700k at 100% usage. Not even Starfield or Cyberpunk 2077 do that (I just tested those today). Running around New Atlantis or Dogtown by Mr. Hands club, most I got outta those two was about 80%.

I guess Bioware considers 9900k / 3700x range 60fps experiences in this one 'most' of the time lol. I would wager others would have the same experience I'm having then with similar specs. Oh welll, still enjoying this flawed but very fun game! :)

I still feel like we could find a way to get you some better performance. You shouldn't be hitting 30 fps at 1080p....

You've turned all rt off right? What about level off detail? That would affect cpu. And you made sure everything else is closed, right? What about checking for unnecessary apps and services running in the background?.... have you uninstalled onedrive ?? Any room for overclocking ram? CPU too but yeah I realize intel probably didn't leave much skin on the bone most likely. Use hwinfo and make sure you're running at max boost, if you're not, and you're at a high temperature, perhaps you're thermal throttling and you could do an undervolt to help with that. Or perhaps repaste your cooler. Or maybe you need a new cooler? What do you have?

I actually disabled Turbo Boost since my temps in this were fluctuating from the 80's to the 90's, even saw one as high as 97c for a split second. I recently repasted a few weeks back actually. Most games, I've been fine. IE: Ghost of Tsushima, highest I saw was high 70s. Without Turbo Boost, I stay in the mid-70s to mid-80s now.

All RT options are off. I have Discord open when playing, but surely that can't be the culprit. I have OneDrive turned off/closed always, but I wasn't even aware that was even something messing with peoples performance lol. I'm holding 60fps no problem in most of the game, it's only in cities with a bunch of NPCs does it start to drop. I just figure that's my CPU showing its age.
iameatingjam Nov 10, 2024 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by < j:
Originally posted by iameatingjam:

I still feel like we could find a way to get you some better performance. You shouldn't be hitting 30 fps at 1080p....

You've turned all rt off right? What about level off detail? That would affect cpu. And you made sure everything else is closed, right? What about checking for unnecessary apps and services running in the background?.... have you uninstalled onedrive ?? Any room for overclocking ram? CPU too but yeah I realize intel probably didn't leave much skin on the bone most likely. Use hwinfo and make sure you're running at max boost, if you're not, and you're at a high temperature, perhaps you're thermal throttling and you could do an undervolt to help with that. Or perhaps repaste your cooler. Or maybe you need a new cooler? What do you have?

I actually disabled Turbo Boost since my temps in this were fluctuating from the 80's to the 90's, even saw one as high as 97c for a split second. I recently repasted a few weeks back actually. Most games, I've been fine. IE: Ghost of Tsushima, highest I saw was high 70s. Without Turbo Boost, I stay in the mid-70s to mid-80s now.

All RT options are off. I have Discord open when playing, but surely that can't be the culprit. I have OneDrive turned off/closed always, but I wasn't even aware that was even something messing with peoples performance lol. I'm holding 60fps no problem in most of the game, it's only in cities with a bunch of NPCs does it start to drop. I just figure that's my CPU showing its age.

Alright if its not bothering you, I'll stop pestering you. I still feel like it could be solved though.....
iameatingjam Nov 10, 2024 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by MjKorz:
Game is masterfully optimized. I played it on a Ryzen 5 7500F + 7900XT at 1440p resolution with everything cranked up to Ultra except ray tracing which was set to Selective (AMD GPU, duh). No upscaling, no framegen and for AA I used Native FSR AA instead of the horrendous TAA. Game ran perfectly smooth while providing absolutely stunning visuals locked at 60 fps except for ONE particular waterfall in the endgame which destroyed my fps to about 30 when looking directly at it.

This is literally THE most visually stunning game I've ever played and it ran unfathomably well, considering that I was using ray tracing on an AMD GPU. Compare it to something like Capcom's REngine slop that can't provide stable native 60fps at 1440p on ANY hardware and this feat of optimization looks even more impressive.

It sure is, I just came from ff16, and it played fine because I have a pretty beefy computer but the amount of resources it ate was insane. People on 8gb cards were pisssed off constantly ( it was possible to get it running on 8gb cards, but required some work, and a pinch of luck) at 4k with dlss on balanced I still saw it go up as high as 15.5gb. OF VRAM! Insane! And thats only one aspect of it. It was demanding on pretty much everything.

Compared to that, this like hollow knight.
Last edited by iameatingjam; Nov 10, 2024 @ 5:09am
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