Still no body mods?

[Mister Sir]

I cant seem to find any mods that fix those abysmal bust and butt sliders, which is kinda surprising considering how bad that part of customization is. Am I missing it somewhere or is there truly no fix to this yet, nor will there ever be?

[Hawthorn]

Originally posted by donder172:

Considering how difficult it is to mod with the Frostbite Engine, I highly doubt we'll see any.

My thought is that this was an intentional choice. Mod communities have been infiltrated by activists and they are openly banning mods that remove pronouns or 'woke' concepts from games. Nexus has already banned multiple popular modders and groups from trying to 'undo the message' in games like Starfield and others.

[candyundfelix]

Originally posted by donder172:

Considering how difficult it is to mod with the Frostbite Engine, I highly doubt we'll see any.

isnt it the same engine like dai?

[donder172]

Originally posted by Hawthorn:

Originally posted by donder172:

Considering how difficult it is to mod with the Frostbite Engine, I highly doubt we'll see any.

My thought is that this was an intentional choice. Mod communities have been infiltrated by activists and they are openly banning mods that remove pronouns or 'woke' concepts from games. Nexus has already banned multiple popular modders and groups from trying to 'undo the message' in games like Starfield and others.

There is no doubt in my mind that this decission is intentional. Though, I suspect it's also because of cutting costs that would be required to make another engine. Or worse, the use of UE.

Unfortunately for Nexus, there are other places for mods like those. They don't have a monopoly.

Originally posted by candyundfelix:

Originally posted by donder172:

Considering how difficult it is to mod with the Frostbite Engine, I highly doubt we'll see any.

isnt it the same engine like dai?

From what I heard, yes. Also the same engine used for Battlefront (ea versions) and Mass Effect Andromeda.

[donder172]

Originally posted by juulstrup83:

Originally posted by NegativeZero:

Boob and ass sliders will not get banned, just like porn and nudity mods don't get banned. It's just the racist and bigotted trash that they don't want to host. Other sites will host that kind of trash. But antiwoke bigots don't make up a large percentage of modders.

Anyways, this game just came out and the the engine is very hard to make mods for.

For this game, they certainly will. Simply because the sliders have become a political topic almost.

Almost? They very much are.

Even then, good luck finding people willing to invest the time and effort into making such mods, if they're even possible to make.

[Blue Cloud]

The mod community has to actually care about the game for that to happen. More people care about defending or attacking the game than anything. Identity politics tends to do that with games made for a modern audience. You can mod the player creator but you can't fix the horrible writing, character interactions, voice acting, and get rid of a certain character. So mods kind of get pointless if there is too much to fix.

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by candyundfelix:

Originally posted by NeoVICT:

I don't think people will even bother to mod this pile of ♥♥♥♥

160 mods out on nexus, just because they didn´t have your anime fanatsie mods dosent mean nobody modding it

I am not sure if you mean actual anime or are you implying that big boobs = anime.

I don't need massive honkers. I was fine with bg3 bodies and they aint all that curvy. However this is like actually pathetic attempt at masking their own biases with these sliders. People seem to have this wild idea that "girls do not look like that" like yeah, they do, and a lot of them. I am not even talking about super models or anything like that, but just bigger and curvier features are extremely common and you know that too.

[Scorpion242]

Seems like a lot of wasted effort - and if you mod anything at all then Trash has to be removed first.

[Shadowfox]

Originally posted by Tuskarony:

Yea the mod community have been talking about it online. If they come through with some mods it will swing me. To be honest if they patch the game to include some of the dialogue choices that allow for more interesting banter and reduce all the explanatory chatter I would buy the game.

Reducing or changing the tone Taash uses with everyone would be nice also.

there modders not god they cant just change the tone of voice lines or create new voiced ones without having to hire voice actors which costs money

[array[LTU]]

Originally posted by NegativeZero:

Originally posted by juulstrup83:

For this game, they certainly will. Simply because the sliders have become a political topic almost.

Antiwoke bigots don't know how to mod. You're lucky if they're even decently literate.

why didn't you buy the game if you love woke stuff so much?

[PROBABILITYOFSUCCESSZERO]

Remember Nexusmods is extremely anti-freespeech. I remember them removing several mods due to political / ideological disagreement even though they were in no way offensive or abusive or in violation of their site rules. Someone cried, stamped their feet and got their way, so the mods got removed.

The most famous of these was the mod to replace pride and trans flags in Spiderman with the American flag since, you know, it's based in America, this was perfectly sensible, reasonable and at each users preference. Nexusmods moderators took it down within hours due to "insert non-sense reason here".

It's seems if you want to sexualise children, women, make them sexually assault-able, insert penises and boobs into a game that was designed for teens / children (see Skyrim mods), Nexusmods is totally ok with that, make a mod to insert the flag of the country in which a game is based in, heresy, BIG NO, NO!

So creating a mod to essentially undo the developers attempt to "avert" the male gaze would run counter to their ideology and so would likely be perceived as offensive. This would likely lead to Nexusmods cuckolding to ideological pressure and removing it from their site.

And yes, this does happen, a lot!

[PROBABILITYOFSUCCESSZERO]

Originally posted by Shadowfox:

there modders not god they cant just change the tone of voice lines or create new voiced ones without having to hire voice actors which costs money

Actually they can, voice actors are no longer needed to do additional lines, AI, yes that beast can do the job for them.

I've seen very recently, a completely re-written version of an Dua Lipa song, where an AI have simulated not only her voice / tone, but sung the new lines. Suffice to say I was VERY impressed and stunned that we have already arrived at that point in the technology. What made it even more scary, is the creator of the new version of the song wasn't even a professional, they just learnt to use it and decided too.

So yeah, it is actually possible to do now and by relatively in-experienced person too.

Scary times.

[lumina]

Now I haven't played this game yet, but from my understanding it's a linear experience with few real choices. These aren't the types of games people spend a lot of time modding as they don't have a lot of replayability. You are likely only going to see cheat code type mods.

[Martial Autist]

Originally posted by NegativeZero:

It's just the racist and bigotted trash that they don't want to host. Other sites will host that kind of trash. But antiwoke bigots don't make up a large percentage of modders.

Ah right. Like that mod making a GoW character more accurate to it's setting and theology. That mod restoring a tifa character model that was changed. Or that mod removing the tomb raider content warning. Yeah. Dangerous stuff. Hm... hm.

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by Ultima:

Originally posted by lumina:

Now I haven't played this game yet, but from my understanding it's a linear experience with few real choices. These aren't the types of games people spend a lot of time modding as they don't have a lot of replayability. You are likely only going to see cheat code type mods.

It's not nearly as linear as people are making it out to be. MInrathous and Treviso are pretty fleshed out hubs that are comparable in scale to the Citadel, while there are several zones you can go to with pretty fleshed out level design. Doesn't feel empty or like I'm doing mindless fetch quests.

The game is actually not bad from what I saw (got it for my gf and watching her play), it's just certain art direction is not my flavor, as well as some very hamfisted cutscenes that treat you like a child that needs explaining what none binary is or some ♥♥♥♥.

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by PROBABILITYOFSUCCESSZERO:

Remember Nexusmods is extremely anti-freespeech. I remember them removing several mods due to political / ideological disagreement even though they were in no way offensive or abusive or in violation of their site rules. Someone cried, stamped their feet and got their way, so the mods got removed.

The most famous of these was the mod to replace pride and trans flags in Spiderman with the American flag since, you know, it's based in America, this was perfectly sensible, reasonable and at each users preference. Nexusmods moderators took it down within hours due to "insert non-sense reason here".

It's seems if you want to sexualise children, women, make them sexually assault-able, insert penises and boobs into a game that was designed for teens / children (see Skyrim mods), Nexusmods is totally ok with that, make a mod to insert the flag of the country in which a game is based in, heresy, BIG NO, NO!

So creating a mod to essentially undo the developers attempt to "avert" the male gaze would run counter to their ideology and so would likely be perceived as offensive. This would likely lead to Nexusmods cuckolding to ideological pressure and removing it from their site.

And yes, this does happen, a lot!

Idk about 'averting' male gaze idea cause there is full nudity still. Plus most of the player base are guys (and I say that even though my gf is a huge fan of DA), so why would anyone really make a conscious choice to alienate their playerbase? Seem kinda dumb, so my guess is that this is more based about self projection and personal values of devs and such.

I highly refuse to believe that this is all harmless "we wanted to make armors fit easier" choice, as some try to claim it to be. Like come on, so there plenty of games that done sliders to massive proportions and armors just all worked fine, but this 100+ mil development could not do the same?