I Finally Agree About Taash.

[DaisyRay]

My last post got deleted for spam, so I'll do my best to express my opinion again, but shorter and without spoilers.

I am not almost fifty hours into the game and I've seen a lot more of Taash's story. I agree.

While Taash has grown on me and I still love this game overall, I have to agree that her backstory was a bit much. While I don't mind since I'm a member of the LGBTQ+, I do think that a video game was an odd place to discuss these topics. Especially since the rest of the game and companions fit into the world more, they're all about magic, darkspawn, etc. Then Taash is....Taash. It just feels out of place in this world.

I still like the game though and I like Taash, but I can understand why some people might not feel comfortable with this game. HOWEVER, all of those parts are completely avoidable. So you can still enjoy the game and just not focus on her storyline. Anywho, that's all.

[hermesonj1]

Tash is a poorly written character that could be deleted and the history would still be the same. SHe is less than nothing.

[DaisyRay]

I personally don't mind the writing that much. Sometimes they say something that make me roll my eyes, but I don't think it's as bad as people make it seem. I think at this point people are hating on it because it's popular. It all started when some streamers didn't get a code. From there, people have been unfair. I've been lucky to find a lot of YouTubers who also love it and they find it entertaining.

I like the characters, the companion stories, the stuff going on with Solas and more. I especially love the party banter. The Lucanis and Taash banter is hilarious. They remind me a little of Sera, who I know most people also did not like. I loved Sera too.

[DaisyRay]

Originally posted by OyajiBR☕:

Taash is the best! I swear!
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😨🔫

I like Taash too. I just agree that their story is a little out of place in a game like this. It seems like it would have been better in maybe a comic book for just their story specifically.

[hermesonj1]

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

Originally posted by OyajiBR☕:

Taash is the best! I swear!
|/
😨🔫

I like Taash too. I just agree that her story is a little out of place in a game like this. It seems like it would have been better in maybe a comic book for just her story specifically.

He is being sarcastic. CHeck the emojis.

[Misfit]

Originally posted by Damedius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL4k6B_E5ds
The problem with Taash is the same problem with the writing in the rest of the game. It's just bad and you can't avoid it. I'm not sure if the writer's were incompetent, or maybe lazy and had ChatGPT write it.

ahh, another one who didnt play the game and just watched some youtube clips.
the writing and dialogue is actually very good.

the tash part is maybe a bit to "modern" and feels a bit out of place, but also that part isnt as bad as some youtubers put it.

[DaisyRay]

Originally posted by hermesonj1:

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

I like Taash too. I just agree that her story is a little out of place in a game like this. It seems like it would have been better in maybe a comic book for just her story specifically.

He is being sarcastic. CHeck the emojis.

Lol oh. Aww :(

[Superchimp]

Going through the entire companion story's to get the veilguard skill, Taash really didn't need to be about modern day identity politics.

The story could have easily been about choosing the qun or not, and it could still been about identity but with nuances and nods rather than really bad writing with in your face.

The is the problem with activist writers, they don't know how to actually make a good story that has different nuanced elements, it has to be in your face as they don't have the mental capacity to look at things grey, it's like a cult, your either with them or against them. It's destroying society, both sides.

[DaisyRay]

Originally posted by Misfit:

Originally posted by Damedius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL4k6B_E5ds
The problem with Taash is the same problem with the writing in the rest of the game. It's just bad and you can't avoid it. I'm not sure if the writer's were incompetent, or maybe lazy and had ChatGPT write it.

ahh, another one who didnt play the game and just watched some youtube clips.
the writing and dialogue is actually very good.

the tash part is maybe a bit to "modern" and feels a bit out of place, but also that part isnt as bad as some youtubers put it.

Agreed!

[DaisyRay]

Originally posted by Superchimp:

Going through the entire companion story's to get the veilguard skill, Taash really didn't need to be about modern day identity politics.

The story could have easily been about choosing the qun or not, and it could still been about identity but with nuances and nods rather than really bad writing with in your face.

The is the problem with activist writers, they don't know how to actually make a good story that has different nuanced elements, it has to be in your face as they don't have the mental capacity to look at things grey, it's like a cult, your either with them or against them. It's destroying society, both sides.

That's another thing. It kind of just comes out of nowhere. There is no build up to it and it feels so out of place. I'm not mad that this is their story or anything, I just found it odd. Sometimes when they were speaking about it, (I hate to say this) but it didn't sound believable or realistic. Though I can't say I know how a realistic conversation like that would go, so I guess I'm just talking out my rear.

I still like Taash though. No hate to them.

[thayxen]

I personally will never buy a product that intentionally butchers English grammar and demands I focus on gay men's desire for me to pretend they are females. Y'all should be rejecting the injection of politics and ideology in games, period, regardless of what the topic is. But hey, it's not my problem. I'm from the OG generation of gamers and this is a problem for the next gen to deal with.

[Raz]

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

HOWEVER, all of those parts are completely avoidable. So you can still enjoy the game and just not focus on her storyline. Anywho, that's all.

Being avoidable does not matter. That was still time spent putting something in the game that has no place in the game because, as you yourself agree, does not fit with the world built up across three games, nor fits in the game itself it is packaged in.

It wasn't like someone spent 5hrs on creating Taash and threw her in. The character took months of development hours to come to this. Hours that could have been better spent on a different character or story element that fits the world being created.

The argument of, "It's avoidable and not that big of a deal" falls flat when if it wasn't such a big of a deal, it wouldn't have been included in the game in the first place. It's mere existence means it was a big of a deal for the writer to include something that doesn't fit the world for whatever reason, and green lit.

[Drake Ravenwolf]

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

While Taash has grown on me and I still love this game overall, I have to agree that her backstory was a bit much.

Her?
You owe at least one Barve.

[Xazomn]

sigh...people forgetting, or doesn't even know because they prefer yelling about things that was always there like Dorian & his personal quest was all about acceptance and how he likes the company of men and that his father tryed to change him with blood magic. That was not just a small hidden piece but part of his personal quest. This isn't any difference.

[Cas]

My only issue with Taash (I thought their deadpan, so over it all 20-something attitude was hilarious) was the terminology they used during the infamous conversation everyone is so up in arms about. It's such modern phrasing and feels so out of place in the world of Dragon Age and could have easily been done differently (I'm sure several cultures and languages have their own words for people like Taash). It'd be like someone using "lightspeed" in a casual conversation in the same world. It stands out, breaks immersion, etc etc. That part did seem lazy and I can't figure out why they stuck with such contemporary language.

Other than that, I personally didn't care about that part of Taash's identity one way or the other. It created additional tension with their mom, and that tension was the backbone of their personal story/quest line (as a new mom, the resolution of that story left me in tears).

[DarkXessZ]

Originally posted by DaisyRay:

My last post got deleted for spam, so I'll do my best to express my opinion again, but shorter and without spoilers.

I am not almost fifty hours into the game and I've seen a lot more of Taash's story. I agree.

While Taash has grown on me and I still love this game overall, I have to agree that her backstory was a bit much. While I don't mind since I'm a member of the LGBTQ+, I do think that a video game was an odd place to discuss these topics. Especially since the rest of the game and companions fit into the world more, they're all about magic, darkspawn, etc. Then Taash is....Taash. It just feels out of place in this world.

I still like the game though and I like Taash, but I can understand why some people might not feel comfortable with this game. HOWEVER, all of those parts are completely avoidable. So you can still enjoy the game and just not focus on her storyline. Anywho, that's all.

Yeah I have been trying to say somethings last time too. It got deleted dont know why.
As people said in this thread, Taash does feel too modern too out of place. I aint saying Trans, Gay, Lesbian or Non-binary shouldnt exist in any game, the problem is a lot of bad writers forget the game setting they are in especially something like Dragon Age that has already established it's own set of rules and lores.
The biggest great example of a DA trans character that fit right into Dragon Age is Krem from Inquisition. Why? Krem has to deal with the world's perspective on him like when he wants to sign up for the military to fight, but he is a biological women. The setting he is in the military has very limited roles for women. Therefore he concealed his gender to be able to fight in the men's roles in the military. However as the story goes he got discovered and got charged with falsifying military documents and desertion. Then he got rescued by the Iron Bulls and saw his talent and recruited him.
Taash on the other hand who is part of the Qun and Rivain that has a huge huge huge strict Military doctrine as part of their culture, where every male Qunari are trained at an early age to be soldiers and the female Qunari are specifically trained as seers. They drew HUGE distinction between men and women roles. If someone like Krem almost died, what do you think happen to Taash? They could have written the whole sidestory about Taash having huge conflict with Qun and Rivain instead of it being a Family TV Drama with Taash's mother.
Then we got the pronouns part just feel like someone hammering a nail into Dragon Age where they are putting modern language into Dragon Age. Dragon Age is a different world than our own.

Overall just bad writing that didnt make any sort of sense.