Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

Dragon Age™: The Veilguard

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BornToFragAlpha (Verbannen) 23 aug 2024 om 17:32
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No white companions?
It's very strange to me, that we only have one white human companion and he's an old guy. We got a dwarf, a black elf, a qunari woman, an arab man, an asian elf, a black woman and the old white man. I get diversity is the new thing in the Western world but where's the diversity if there are no white companions? (Apart from the old guy, I suppose.)
Laatst bewerkt door BornToFragAlpha; 23 aug 2024 om 17:44
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BornToFragAlpha (Verbannen) 25 aug 2024 om 10:26 
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
He needs it spelled out for him worse than a kindergartener

1. Argues that everyone should have european accents because europe inspiration
>false, american accents are not european and many characters have them

2. Argues Davrin has african accent
> false

3. Cant conceptualize an elf who lives on a continent full of people with non british accents adapting an american accent
> nothing is known abt Davs lore, how he was raised, where he grew up etc

4. Says he is not on abt race
> multiple posts abt how elves should not be anything but white

5. Gets called out for his lore innacuracies
>calls anyone who proves him wrong a “revisionist” revises dragon age lore to fit his narrative

6. Gets mad for being clowned on when he is throwing a temper tantrum over the lack of white elves on a post where OP admitted he just wants to see hot white ppl
> wonders why hed be lumped in with OP

But he's right about the elves being white. Trying to make them Asian or Black is culturally insensitive. They're part of North Germanic mythology which is...

White.

Elves are not Asian or African, they're part of European heritage, mythology and have been a certain way for hundreds of years. Why you're trying to rewrite history with your American religion?

Make your own damn fictional race that's black or asian, nobody would care.
Laatst bewerkt door BornToFragAlpha; 25 aug 2024 om 10:30
Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:
The revisionism of the city elf origin in DA:O. :D :D :D :D :D
weird, first three elves that speak and no American accent in sight, maybe a time stamp is in order? you did say most City elves had American accents so it is worrying not one of them have spoken in such an accent so far, strange!

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
This is insane, I spelled it out for the guy and he still cant wrap his head around it 💀💀
gets refuted on every point, refuses to back up a single claim, concedes the argument immediately, that was easy.

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
^^^
is this the part where you construe "black" and "african" to mean the same thing while i'm using black elves such as Adaia and Cillian as examples of black elves who fit into the lore? oo, you did, didn't you? tsk tsk, even this argument falls apart immediately on closer examination, big sad.
BornToFragAlpha (Verbannen) 25 aug 2024 om 10:31 
Want something black from African folklore? How about an Adze. The adze is a vampiric being in Ewe folklore,[1] told by the people of Togo and Ghana. In the wild, the adze takes the form of a firefly, though it will transform into human shape upon capture. When in human form, the adze has the power to possess humans.

Source; Wikipedia.

Plenty of folklore of Africans. As well as Asians. East Asia is choke-full of it.

Nobody complained when Jade Empire was made about it being full Chinese characters. I didn't want representation because it was obviously not my setting, it was Chinese setting.

Hell, I cringed at one white guy character in the whole game and I felt good to knock some sense into his European-superior smug as*.
Origineel geplaatst door BornToFragAlpha:
Make your own damn fictional race that's black or asian, nobody would care.

BioWare made up a bunch of them, and yet ol' pure-blood Romanian over here lost his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. :)
BornToFragAlpha (Verbannen) 25 aug 2024 om 10:35 
Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:
Origineel geplaatst door BornToFragAlpha:
Make your own damn fictional race that's black or asian, nobody would care.

BioWare made up a bunch of them, and yet ol' pure-blood Romanian over here lost his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. :)

Half*

And they've made Qunari, Elves aren't theirs. :)
Origineel geplaatst door pr1mus:
Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:
The revisionism of the city elf origin in DA:O. :D :D :D :D :D
weird, first three elves that speak and no American accent in sight, maybe a time stamp is in order? you did say most City elves had American accents so it is worrying not one of them have spoken in such an accent so far, strange!

Dude, you can just admit that you are deaf. This is a very inclusive forum. Well, except for you, and Mashall Ion Antonescu over there.
BornToFragAlpha (Verbannen) 25 aug 2024 om 10:40 
Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:
Origineel geplaatst door pr1mus:
weird, first three elves that speak and no American accent in sight, maybe a time stamp is in order? you did say most City elves had American accents so it is worrying not one of them have spoken in such an accent so far, strange!

Dude, you can just admit that you are deaf. This is a very inclusive forum. Well, except for you, and Mashall Ion Antonescu over there.

He was a national hero that saved his country!
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:

Dude, you can just admit that you are deaf. This is a very inclusive forum. Well, except for you, and Mashall Ion Antonescu over there.

This guy just wants to be right atp, he thinks “winning” argument is having the last say after ppl dont want to reason with you anymore, refuses to concede on any point even when he is so obviously wrong, wouldnt even admit he was wrong about davs accent, thinks he invented dragon age lore or smth

I don't know. I am starting to think the poor guy really is deaf, and is too ashamed to say something. I feel really bad for creating such a hostile environment.

It's ok, li'l buddy. You don't have to hide.
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Ah yes refuted
yes, cope. feel free to refute anything yourself, you won't.

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
If you believe that there can be black elves then why are you complainning about davrin ?
cause he's a human with pointy ears coded to resemble African ethnicity, there's a difference between Davrin and the design of Cillian and Adaia who are black but aren't similarly coded, same deal with Bellara.

you can trace back these awful designs with Sera whose similarly just a human with pointy ears, we had a good thing going on in DA2 with the Elves and Qunari, what happened? oh right, we need these species to just be humans with pointy ears, how boring.

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
You have no idea where hes from
being an Elf he is from Thedas, your empty platitudes and preemptive fan fiction about him being adopted by Africans (lol) that are similarly not established in DA need not apply.

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Instead of going yeah maybe hes adopted by parents with that accent you go “HAHAH YOURE ADOPTED” its insane and you expect anyone to take you seriously.
you poor thing, calling people gay as an insult and now you're having your feewings bwoken that someone reciprocated your energy. worry not i will not match your energy any longer since you're a big sensitive baby abloo abloo :((((

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
THE POST IS LITERALLY ABOUT RACE so im going to keep bringing up because we all know what you really want.
i do enjoy the tacit admission that you're just going to disregard my actual argument in lieu of you "knowing what i really mean" because that's easier for you, haha, very unserious.

Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:
Dude, you can just admit that you are deaf.
i'm sorry what? did you just try to communicate a time stamp with me?
kinna 25 aug 2024 om 10:59 
Origineel geplaatst door pr1mus:
cause he's a human with pointy ears coded to resemble African ethnicity, there's a difference between Davrin and the design of Cillian and Adaia who are black but aren't similarly coded, same deal with Bellara.
So is Solas just a human with pointy ears coded to resemble European ethnicity?
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Also love how hes still pushing dav having african accent via “adopted by africans” delusional

I mean, I don't even know why he assumed that Davrin would have an African accent?
Is it (a) because he's black, and dude doesn't know that there are black people outside of Africa?
Or is it (b) because the actor is Nigerian, and dude doesn't know that actors can speak in other accents?

The "deaf" hypothesis would at least explain some of this, because if he's never heard how people sound, maybe he assumes how everyone sounds using his racist stereotypes based on their appearance.
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Also love how hes still pushing dav having african accent via “adopted by africans” delusional
ikr! i can't believe someone would suggest such a thing.

oh right..

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
HE COULDVE BEEN ADOPTED 😂😂😂
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
maybe hes adopted. Instead of going yeah maybe hes adopted by parents with that accent

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Its okay buddy, nothing wrong with having a thing for ♥♥♥♥, never said ur gay idk ur gender but you def like ♥♥♥♥ i dont find it offensive, we support you 🧏‍♀️
hey you took my advice and went back to calling people gay, see i knew you'd be more comfortable this way👍

Origineel geplaatst door kinna:
So is Solas just a human with pointy ears coded to resemble European ethnicity?
i think Solas' design is distinctly non-human enough to get the pass in the way he doesn't look any particularly human (in contrast wtih Sera whose just a human with pointy ears), of course Solas gets this sort of design right.
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
Origineel geplaatst door Jusenkyo7:

I mean, I don't even know why he assumed that Davrin would have an African accent?
Is it (a) because he's black, and dude doesn't know that there are black people outside of Africa?
Or is it (b) because the actor is Nigerian, and dude doesn't know that actors can speak in other accents?

The "deaf" hypothesis would at least explain some of this, because if he's never heard how people sound, maybe he assumes how everyone sounds using his racist stereotypes based on their appearance.

Hes racist and wants elves to be white,

His first post here is complaining about how elves are made to fit biowares “diversity roster” nothing abt accents he only went on the accent tangent because he got pushed into a corner as more and more ppl disproved his logic and questioned him. Hes pushed so far into the accent corner far off from his og point abt race that now hes outright denying and/or deliberately misinterpreting everything we say 👌 atp hes just to be laughed at

Also, the 13th Century Icelandic poet and historian Snorri Sturluson's "Prose Edda" talks about svartálfar, dökkálfar and ljósálfar (black elves, dark elves, and light elves). So the woke conspiracy against elf racial purity is even worse than we thought!
Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
You have to be genuinely stupid to not see that im saying that is to explain his AMERICAN accent
pssst... American accents aren't European accents.

you should really just stick with calling people gay dude, this is rather embarrassing to witness. :(

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
theres also as juten showed city elves, growing around people with that accent
you mean the video that had no American accents, where the City elves all spoke in English accents? similarly why wouldn't these "American City elves" conform to the English accents of Ferelden/Denerim if your argument had any merit to begin with? ahaha, it just crumbles apart so easily.

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
His first post here is complaining about how elves are made to fit biowares “diversity roster” nothing abt accents
which is literally what is happening with these designs, they want Africans and Asians in the roster, but instead of making them human they've sacrificed the Elven designs to resemble these ethnicity.

were Davrin just a black elf with an European accent like the other elves this wouldn't be an issue, that's what i said. you turned this into a "actually what he REALLY meant was that all elves should be white" because you cannot argue the point.

Origineel geplaatst door mozzarxlla:
hes outright denying and/or deliberately misinterpreting everything we say
pretty rich coming from mr. "i know what he really meant" as you argue against imaginary positions not made by me.
Origineel geplaatst door pr1mus:
Origineel geplaatst door kinna:
So is Solas just a human with pointy ears coded to resemble European ethnicity?
i think Solas' design is distinctly non-human enough to get the pass in the way he doesn't look any particularly human (in contrast wtih Sera whose just a human with pointy ears), of course Solas gets this sort of design right.
I mean the jawline differs from human norm on Solas, but that is true to Bellara and Davrin too. Sera looks more like the elves in
DA2 than Solas, so in a way more elven.
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