DA based on fantasy/medieval era supporting trans pronouns? What?

[Go_Heavy_Shield_I_Will_Heal_You]

You're kidding me, right? You're telling me that a medieval era time period is open minded about pronouns? Pronouns is a concept that takes place in OUR MODERN reality, it makes no sense for it to be existent in a medieval time period, even if the game is fantastical,

The only way to possibly justify the existence of pronouns in the game is if it was meticulously described and explained properly in Dragon Age Origins, which it was not. They literally just shoved it in without any explanation, this is called Forcing Political Propaganda into the game.

[Blaizeplays]

Thedas is more accepting of a lot of things than the real middle ages were. People in the real middle ages would frequently be killed if they were gay for example and even if you play as a straight dude Dorian is an openly gay man who's an accepted (if not fully liked) member of Tevinter's ruling counsel. Mavarus is a Trans woman in that same ruling counsel. Even Krem was only discharged from the military rather than killed when they discovered he was a Trans man. All three of them would have been killed in the real middle ages and all of them are superb charaters I'd rather keep. Pronouns aren't a stretch at this point. While fantasy often has a layer of middle age setting added on it's honestly all about not being realistic. I suppose you think the real middle ages had elves, dwarves, magic, and a separate world populated by completely inhuman spirits if the only 'unrealistic' part is them being more progressive than our real ancestors.

[Meg J]

You're right, they should get rid of all pronouns, including referring to any character as he or her... they should use full names only. Or "that person over there". No pronouns at all.

[Cutlass Jack]

If you actually played any Dragon Age game, you'd know that they were using the gender neutral pronoun of 'Ser' ever since Origins came out 15 years ago.

Well before OUR MODERN reality.

[GayBeard]

Originally posted by Go_Heavy_Shield_I_Will_Heal_You:

You're kidding me, right? You're telling me that a medieval era time period is open minded about pronouns? Pronouns is a concept that takes place in OUR MODERN reality, it makes no sense for it to be existent in a medieval time period, even if the game is fantastical,

The only way to possibly justify the existence of pronouns in the game is if it was meticulously described and explained properly in Dragon Age Origins, which it was not. They literally just shoved it in without any explanation, this is called Forcing Political Propaganda into the game.

Okay quick grammar lessons kids, you used 7 pronouns in your incoherent rambling about pronouns. Lets see if you can find them all!
I for one, have no faith in you doing so, because I doubt you know what a pronoun is

[Dexter in the Dark]

if i remember my history correctly thou and thee where far more common in old English to refer to people him and her where less common

[Fomin]

Originally posted by Go_Heavy_Shield_I_Will_Heal_You:

You're kidding me, right? You're telling me that a medieval era time period is open minded about pronouns? Pronouns is a concept that takes place in OUR MODERN reality, it makes no sense for it to be existent in a medieval time period, even if the game is fantastical,

The only way to possibly justify the existence of pronouns in the game is if it was meticulously described and explained properly in Dragon Age Origins, which it was not. They literally just shoved it in without any explanation, this is called Forcing Political Propaganda into the game.

No pronouns are an inherent part of English which have been around for as long as the language has...



If you wanted to say that you think a game set in... a fantasy universe which is NOT our own past... should use traditional pronouns well at least that would make more sense than what you actually wrote which is that you want the dialogue to be written in some made-up fantasy language without pronouns.

[Nightshade878]

Originally posted by Go_Heavy_Shield_I_Will_Heal_You:

You're kidding me, right? You're telling me that a medieval era time period is open minded about pronouns? Pronouns is a concept that takes place in OUR MODERN reality, it makes no sense for it to be existent in a medieval time period, even if the game is fantastical,

The only way to possibly justify the existence of pronouns in the game is if it was meticulously described and explained properly in Dragon Age Origins, which it was not. They literally just shoved it in without any explanation, this is called Forcing Political Propaganda into the game.

Hi! History major here! Did you know, that Dragon Age is a fantasy world, and not Europe during the Medieval Period?? Strange, I know! (Extreme sardonicism)

Please shut up. You're embarrassing me and every historian/history student of every field on Earth by proxy with your embarrassing post.

[hexnessie]

Do you honestly think medieval era was filled with magic and dragons? No? Then why trip on something as tiny as addressing people like they want to be addressed?

They accept elves, for gods sake. They accept the qunari!

And you didn't make a fuss about that? What medieveal era had any qunari? Where were the elves in Middle Ages? How come peasants are allowed to fight? How come they are allowed to *read*?

This is what's outrageous if you crave medievalism.

[ArcaneSyntax]

While Dragon Age is inspired by real life medieval nations, it is not basing any of the places on them. Dragon Age also remixes and combines several real world nations together to create something a little more unique.

For instance Orlais is inspired by both Renaissance Italy and France.

The key different here is that there's no force, either culturally or religiously enforcing a bigoted value against LGBT people, so generally it's seen as more accepted.

Racism and bigotry exist, but they aren't based on skin tones, sexuality.

[droggen]

Remember when you had to accept one of Iron bulls companions pro-nouns or you could not get a good ending where he saves his crew and leaves the Quen? The writing was on the wall with this game with stuff like that in the last game, This will be the first time I never finished a trilogy of a game and it's mainly because Bio-ware of old is dead and most of the crap they've shoved out has shown this, Remember Anthem anyone?

[droggen]

Originally posted by criffyzou:

Originally posted by droggen:

Remember when you had to accept one of Iron bulls companions pro-nouns or you could not get a good ending where he saves his crew and leaves the Quen?

How to expose the fact you've never played Dragon Age in 1 sentence.

Originally posted by droggen:

This will be the first time I never finished a trilogy of a game and it's mainly because Bio-ware of old is dead and most of the crap they've shoved out has shown this,

Quick question: how many games do you think are in a trilogy ?

What I personally think? I think a trilogy can be any set of volumes that tell an over arching story of a character or a connected story, also how does that sentence in anyway confirm I have not played a dragon age game? If you don't accept and do some side quest for Krem? I think their name was it had an effect on the Iron bulls personal quest and it did make it harder to gain his trust, I guess he didn't really leave as much as he was ex-communicated.

I guess a trilogy is a set of three according to Webster but these last four years have been such a freaking clown show they even changed the definition of what a recession was.

[Blaizeplays]

Originally posted by droggen:

Originally posted by criffyzou:

How to expose the fact you've never played Dragon Age in 1 sentence.


Quick question: how many games do you think are in a trilogy ?

What I personally think? I think a trilogy can be any set of volumes that tell an over arching story of a character or a connected story, also how does that sentence in anyway confirm I have not played a dragon age game? If you don't accept and do some side quest for Krem? I think their name was it had an effect on the Iron bulls personal quest and it did make it harder to gain his trust, I guess he didn't really leave as much as he was ex-communicated.

I guess a trilogy is a set of three according to Webster but these last four years have been such a freaking clown show they even changed the definition of what a recession was.

The meaning of trilogy has not changed. Tri means 3, it's meant 3 for a very long time. At current DA is a Quartet.

[Dark red Knight]

Originally posted by droggen:

Remember when you had to accept one of Iron bulls companions pro-nouns or you could not get a good ending where he saves his crew and leaves the Quen? The writing was on the wall with this game with stuff like that in the last game, This will be the first time I never finished a trilogy of a game and it's mainly because Bio-ware of old is dead and most of the crap they've shoved out has shown this, Remember Anthem anyone?

except that never happen, krems pro nouns literally played no part in that questline as the choice is sacrifice the chargers to destroy some venitori and join with the qunari, or save the chargers and lose out nothing tied to krems pronouns, it was just an intresting thing you learn when having the "meet the chargers" event, nor do you have to accept as theirs an option that lets you just hand wave it and this in no way effects the questline, but guess youd rather an option to be an ass over it.

given your second comment you've clearly not done the quest cause none of the quests krem offers (war table missions are barely quests) play any part in the ending.

and as for you playing dragon age i mean all these things have existed in the older games so nothing shown is any differant to the "bioware of old" as you put it.

and yes i do i also remember the horrid development that was literally screamed all around for the entire devolopment cycle, the massive amounts of overhyping and showing ♥♥♥♥ they had no way of doing (which blame the execs who kept flip floping), and the clear fact they've never done a live service game that wasnt an mmo, none of these apply cause whilst it had a rough start everything shown and stated has been bioware going back to what they know and what their good at and considering its the stuff that made all their games so good id say it warrants some faith, but hey your free to not like but lets not make stuff up just to hate.

also no trilogy has always meant sets of 3 this has never changed, your thinking franchise, series, and stuff like that cause trilogy has never meant anything more nor less then sets of 3

[Schnitzel Brother]

Originally posted by droggen:

Remember when you had to accept one of Iron bulls companions pro-nouns or you could not get a good ending

Yet another culture war tourist, who has no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea what he is talking about and has likely never played Dragon Age in their life.

[Nightshade878]

Originally posted by droggen:

Remember when you had to accept one of Iron bulls companions pro-nouns or you could not get a good ending where he saves his crew and leaves the Quen?

Lol that never happened.