I dont get the hate for the game

[socks]

I understand its not completely like its predecessors, but its been like 10 years since the last game. We are allowed to have new things and changes. From the game play, the combat looks amazing. The environments? Beautiful. It's also only the early stage of it. If people are complaining about not enough RPG, dawg, think about it. Its spoilers. I understand why they limited it. The whole fortnite gibberish? I dont see it and lets be real, who tf actually cares about it. The style is not owned by fortnite and there is very little vibes of it in dragon age.

My only actual complaint its the Solas voice actor but that's because i'm not used to it.

Do not come for me because i dont hate it. I love the franchise and im not mad about the game either. People can like or hate it, be respectful.

[Argon]

There is this movement of remaking classics for the “modern audiences”. I absolutely hate that! If they just make some new stuff with their woke agenda, nobody will care. Unfortunately they lack the creativity to build their own thing.

[ArcaneSyntax]

Messaggio originale di Argon:

There is this movement of remaking classics for the “modern audiences”. I absolutely hate that! If they just make some new stuff with their woke agenda, nobody will care. Unfortunately they lack the creativity to build their own thing.

This isn't remaking anything, it's a new game in a series thats always been pretty woke.

[Prolific-ForSaleTradeALLMustGo]

It's not new, it's lazy and dumbed down. There's nothing new about it. Simple people like simple things comes to mind

[Mihai_89]

Messaggio originale di Horus Blackheart:

Messaggio originale di Flinsberg:

Ah yes, spoken like a true elitist xD

"Those poor plebians are so simple. They don't have the intellectual capabilities to enjoy high quality games like I do. Their favorite games are trash and mine are masterpieces."

"Don't think just consume you pay pig" fixed it for you.

So now we're gonna use video games to actually measure an individual's intellectual cabilities right ?

Literally reminds me of the trolls on the souls-like forums where whatever unlucky person actually creates and post saying the game is unfair or too hard - automatically gets the "get good" BS.

Absolutely disgusting that people can't actually enjoy simpler games without getting called out.

[Mihai_89]

Messaggio originale di Horus Blackheart:

Messaggio originale di Mihai_89:

So now we're gonna use video games to actually measure an individual's intellectual cabilities right ?

Literally reminds me of the trolls on the souls-like forums where whatever unlucky person actually creates and post saying the game is unfair or too hard - automatically gets the "get good" BS.

Absolutely disgusting that people can't actually enjoy simpler games without getting called out.

I never said anything about a correlational between games played and someones intelligence. You jumped to that conclusion. What i said refereed to the corporate mindset that affects design and content. The other factor in this are games like madden. Gamer: this game is just a lazy cash grab i'm done with it!. also gamer OMG i need to get the new version... why does this game play worse than last year. So to sum up consumers enable this trend of ship it broken and patch it later.

Then i apologyze - i thought you were reffering to gamers themselves not the corpos.

[Mihai_89]

Messaggio originale di Horus Blackheart:

Messaggio originale di Mihai_89:

Then i apologyze - i thought you were reffering to gamers themselves not the corpos.

No problem I appreciate it I know online discourse can feel like a consent fight and everyone feels they need a "got you moment" the corps don't care about any of this they just want peoples money.

To be honest i wasn't really looking for a "got you moment" - just seemed weird to actually measure an individual's intellectual capabilities with video games.

I seen people complain about DOOM being too hard even though it's a very easy game.

Another point is yeah i do get what you mean about buying each year the new version for a specific game - as someone who is a football fan i also do get FIFA or FC as they re-named it now because i like football and the career mode is actually pretty good.

I usually stay away from the Ultimate Team type of BS in the game, just wastes time and online matches are a pain in the ass because of player balancing.

[Mihai_89]

Messaggio originale di Horus Blackheart:

Messaggio originale di Mihai_89:

To be honest i wasn't really looking for a "got you moment" - just seemed weird to actually measure an individual's intellectual capabilities with video games.

I seen people complain about DOOM being too hard even though it's a very easy game.

oh I know. It just seems like most discussions on here are purely reactionary your ether a chud bigot or a woke defender there's no nuance and that's annoying.

I am neither of those - i am simply a person who enjoys DA series and to that extent it can be the best game they ever made or the worst thing they release - i'll still buy it to check it out, i owe it to myself as a fan of the series.

Whatever other people want to do is up to them but that topic i made which has like 11 pages i was mostly trying to encourage fans of the series to give it a shot because chances are it's not gonna be as bad or as doom and gloom as a lot of people already think it's going to be despite the game is not even released yet and they didn't play it.

I haven't played it either but as a DA fan i think i have a way better idea of what to expect from the series overall.

[Mihai_89]

Messaggio originale di Horus Blackheart:

Messaggio originale di Mihai_89:

I am neither of those - i am simply a person who enjoys DA series and to that extent it can be the best game they ever made or the worst thing they release - i'll still buy it to check it out, i owe it to myself as a fan of the series.

Whatever other people want to do is up to them but that topic i made which has like 11 pages i was mostly trying to encourage fans of the series to give it a shot because chances are it's not gonna be as bad or as doom and gloom as a lot of people already think it's going to be despite the game is not even released yet and they didn't play it.

I haven't played it either but as a DA fan i think i have a way better idea of what to expect from the series overall.

I wanted more DAO and less da2/ dumbed down combat. Each game has got more streamlined over time to the point I feel they don't want my money.

They want your money make no mistake - they just have no idea or don't give a crap that you prefer DAO vs DA2 or DAI as a standolone title in the series.

Personally for someone like me loved all 3 games in the DA series so i did enjoy DA2's combat even DAI's combat although it was annoying at times compared to DAO so to that extent i'm kinda happy they went with the more action route.

There were moments in DAO and DAI where i was thinking "how much do i have to drag on this damn encounter or rift..." - just gets beyond annoying.

[Chroniver]

Like one of the first posters said: it's not really hate.

Dragon Age fans from the first hour have just seen this franchise drift in a direction that they often don't like.

I remember being active on the official Bioware forums for a long time in the DAO days. Now those forums were a cesspool sometimes, but there was also a ton of good feedback when DA2 came out, up until they were ultimately closed off.
Most of that feedback was totally ignored.

There's still a good number of fans that came in mostly with Inquisition who are really into the franchise still (and Inquisition was a good game) and who will likely jump on Veilguard regardless of the style of gameplay.

I myself will probably buy it at some point to see the continuation of the story, but so far it looks like a generic title to me. Nothing has been shown that excites me.

[Oozy Monster]

Messaggio originale di Chroniver:

Like one of the first posters said: it's not really hate.

Dragon Age fans from the first hour have just seen this franchise drift in a direction that they often don't like.

I remember being active on the official Bioware forums for a long time in the DAO days. Now those forums were a cesspool sometimes, but there was also a ton of good feedback when DA2 came out, up until they were ultimately closed off.
Most of that feedback was totally ignored.

There's still a good number of fans that came in mostly with Inquisition who are really into the franchise still (and Inquisition was a good game) and who will likely jump on Veilguard regardless of the style of gameplay.

I myself will probably buy it at some point to see the continuation of the story, but so far it looks like a generic title to me. Nothing has been shown that excites me.

This. I'm in for the story at this point, but I miss the complexity of DAO. I shouldn't have to decide which of my skills are available to use in combat because the devs needed to dumb down the interface for people that can only count to four. Still, if the story is good I can overlook it.

[Chroniver]

Messaggio originale di criffyzou:

The BSN was still up way after Inquisition's release, the plug was only pulled a bit before Anthem/Andromeda (can't remember which).

Yeah, honestly I don't remember.

People got really aggressive sometimes on those forums too, which probably didn't help the relationship with the devs either.

But still, there's definitely a point to be made that we weren't ever really listened to.

[Sannro]

Messaggio originale di Chroniver:

Like one of the first posters said: it's not really hate.

Dragon Age fans from the first hour have just seen this franchise drift in a direction that they often don't like.

I remember being active on the official Bioware forums for a long time in the DAO days. Now those forums were a cesspool sometimes, but there was also a ton of good feedback when DA2 came out, up until they were ultimately closed off.
Most of that feedback was totally ignored.

There's still a good number of fans that came in mostly with Inquisition who are really into the franchise still (and Inquisition was a good game) and who will likely jump on Veilguard regardless of the style of gameplay.

I myself will probably buy it at some point to see the continuation of the story, but so far it looks like a generic title to me. Nothing has been shown that excites me.

Hmm.... I was there with Dragon Age Origins and I enjoy all the games. It is quite possible to enjoy the first game and the go on having fun in the rest of them as well. If Dragon Age can only be like DA:O for you to be happy then I can see how you miss it. Doesn't change the fact that some of us are still here from the beginning and still having fun.

Oh..I had forgotten about the extra people that rained in at different point in the game in DA:II, I do not miss those guys. It made planning a fight so irritating,

[Sannro]

Messaggio originale di dulany67:

Messaggio originale di criffyzou:

The BSN was still up way after Inquisition's release, the plug was only pulled a bit before Anthem/Andromeda (can't remember which).

BSN was a replacement for the original forums that got taken down because they felt the players were being toxic to the devs. There was a time when it was quite easy to talk to BW devs.

You know about the new BioWare forum, right. Have no idea if you liked it or not but there are a lot of people from the old forum there. It is really fun now with the game coming out. Just so you don't miss out in case you did not know.

https://bsn.boards.net/

[Kaolan Enjoyer 27]

There's no hate outside of the usual vocal minority of tourists who hate everything and want to be mad at everything.

Most actual DA fans are pretty optimistic.

[Shadow♥]

Messaggio originale di criffyzou:

Some people on the forums are here because their life is empty and they need the thrill of hating something to feel alive again. I've decided to block them all and not bother engaging.

Okay but really did Solas' voice actor change ? I can't tell. I thought the original one was coming back, he came back for all the trailers before.
I will play in french anyway so this won't bother me when I get to play the game (unless they also change the french VA), but the vibes were a bit different.

I am almost certain that Solas voice actor is indeed the same actor from the inquisition. listen to him in the game play reveal. that is the same actor. you gotta realize also it has been 10 years so maybe he may sound a little different in a line or something just because he is older now too. but it is absolutely him. I can tell. if it was not same voice actor i would be shocked because it sure sounds like the Solas I know.