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Each ruler got their own playstyle, but as far as i know i'll vouch for them.
TBH, Mirelva is the easiest nation to be first wiped out from the map.
The strongest nation, you need to think about it, since some of them are strong at the beginning of the game, and some have very strong low-level fighters who, with increasing levels, become stronger than the basic high-level heroes.
Rudo definitely the strongest, I would be surprised if anyone argued against it. For those new to the game, here are the reasons:
- He has the best element (White/Light), which due to game mechanics gives the best attack bonus.
- Happinet's Official Strategy Guide has his Level 30 ranking as #2 in HP, #3 in STR (1 behind #2), and #3 (tied) in Rune Power/Magic Pool.
(Rant: I have no idea why it's called "magic pool", this is confusing for some with MP and it used to be called rune power....they're RUNE knights not magic knights).
- Rudo's skills have the highest damage bonuses in the game for their type (base attack and single target ultimate attack). His ultimate move is the best in the game. And having the largest damage bonus and best element to modify the # 3 STR makes him way more powerful than anyone else.
- Ginny and Hazarov, the only characters who are close in STR and attack damage bonus, have massive negative "to hit" modifiers for their best attack (+8 base, -40 best attack). Rudo has a large bonus "to hit" for his (+14 base attack, +23 best attack). Plus Rudo doesn't have AGI problems.
The only other leaders according to Happinet's Guide in the top 10 of Level 30 Rankings beside Rudo (who's ranks are listed above):
- STR: Rubino #6 (tied with 5 others, 10 less STR than Rudo....a significant amount lower).
- INT: none
- AGI: none
- HP: none
- MP: Talia #1 (30 more than #2 Selena, and 80 more than #3...but she doesn't really anything that great to use it for as her Skills have the lowest damage bonus of any ruler and rely on random criticals. Not a sure thing even with her critical % bonus.)
- Rune Power/Magic Pool: Rubino and Talia #1 (tied, 10 points higher than next highest). Eliza and Tim next at #3 (tied, 10 points lower than #1). Rudo is tied #3.
source: https://brigandine.happinet-games.com/guide/?lang=en
Yeah, I don't know if there's a "strongest nation".
I've cleared everything with every nation and I didn't feel any nation was significantly stronger. I thought Mirelva was a bit weaker than the others but I don't feel that strongly about it.
I mean Rudo is jacked, we know this. I feel like Mirelva is good because they are built to dunk Rudo early. Ginny starts to high level he can bang with Rudo outright. Dude is BBQ. Their whole nation is BBQ.
As a player, yeah, maybe Rudo will get the strongest, but who leads you thru the game easiest, who can you win the craziest fights with? End game doesn't matter that much TO ME because by that time you are already so far ahead of everyone else in terms of units.
Umimaru is a super monster as he levels up. Ginny might wane thruout the game cuz of his low mana, but he beasts people and like I said I don't think I've won more fights with anyone w/ him being the only dude left and just tanking and spinning until the other side gave up, just needs like a loop heal and he's set. Rudo is prol like that, too, but Ginny is a whole nother char. You can slot him in anywhere and the biggest thing you have to worry about is hitting your own units. His AOE is 100% hit, no counter and massive dmg.
I would love to see some mods to play this with better AI as well as online or local vs that we could network with other progs.
Yeah, I knew you know this as I'd seen your other posts. Just laying it out for new players who are reading but not posting, on "why" he's really good so they can get some ideas on how to play.
Umimaru is pretty awesome.
Ginny has the #1 STR at Level 30 per the official guide, about 10 more than anyone else and 20 more than #6 on the list.
for sure. It's just nice IMO to talk about a SRPG because they are rare nowadays and on PC wew. Not disgaea level. This is a bit easy, too, but it's pretty cool. BRING ON MODS! When I heard about creative mode I thought it would be more like make your own scenario :( Still, this game is one of the best SRPG (to me) in awhile. Not cuz it's amazingly hard or deep, but it just satisfies the itch. Last game I played this much was... Natural Doctrine lool tho most people hate that.
Another thing re:barbs is most people who are good at this game should understand how to trap people. Ginny is such a fool (tho I attribute it to his being an old drunk) that he can miss people, esp w/ his extra hard hit when they are entangled. He can body up v a dragon tho.
Just in general a cool game, kinda shoddy AI (it's not layered enough with protection,) but real fun. I wish there was more content! I wish there were more items in challenge mode. I wish there was actually a hard mode without boosting stats. lol. I played 200 exp all quest success, etc, on ps4 and after awhile it was like OK yea this is getting a bit insane.
On topic tho, Rudo is meant to be big. I dunno if you guys played Dragon Force but he is reminiscent of Goldark. He's a boss leader in a way. Still, I think Stella compares favorably with the rest even tho she might not be able to tank them 1v1. It's more about what she and her team can do. People talk about white orbs, but stella and Ginny have some epic orbs too lol.
One more thing! If you take care I bet Talia is pretty beasty at higher levels.
the first time i play this game i use guimoule because its red ... red 😂
waste my time play around and left the rudo country (purple) uncheck ... and boom lesser level knight get one shot every battle vs rudo 😂.
I mean in challenge mode. You start with level 1s and stray lizardmen/unicorns haha.
I don't think there is a huge advantage of troops til a lot later, but like I said, by then they have stupid units and other rules. They still get stomped, but it's due to the AI not understanding risk management haha. Like if you got two hydras you shouldn't be on the front line even if you are RUDO.
If you do Guard they are susceptible to range (high centaurz, lvl 30 'last shot-ers,) if they do don't guard, they end up rushing out and feeding. If they moved in a better formation and worried about controlling space, they would be better. If they didn't choose to breathe with a dragon/snake every time because 'that hits a lot of units and does the most combined dmg,' etc.
But yeah, if you want the game to be hard basically keep making teams. I've got like C team D team etc, and sometimes those guys lose. Sometimes I gotta guard a castle with 1-2 people. It's all in fun.
Things not to do: don't boost their gains haha. That stuff gets crazy fast! Especially if you do cpu 100% quest.
This is stat and unique-skill based, Rubino and Talia are my last two mostly becuase of how easy they are to kill, ending your entire assault, Talia particularly has no offensive capabilities, the role of a healer ruler is just not a good one to have in this game, more so when Medessa does it way better.
Gustava > Mirelva > Norzaleo > Guimoule > Mana Saleesia > Shinobi
Mostly based on how easy it is to get out of their starting situation, ally quality and ability to finish a playthrough quickly, the Shinobi Tribe is definitely stuck for a few turns grinding their weaker allies, as soon as they move up one node to either side, they're left open to many flanks, it's worse on hard difficulty because every adjacent enemy sees you as the threat.
Gustava has the strongest allies (the Brawler & the Caster), they also get the best Lancer.
Shinobi gets their strongest ally way too far into the game so you're stuck with melee units except for Medessa.
Saleesia's allies suck, mainly the Healer who can cast Holy Word once or twice at max level, and they lose their strongest unit midway, she only comes back when the game is already over, they also have to deal with the most flanks at once with 1 possible good army (Lancer, Knight & Ruler).
Mirelva has the strongest unique-class character in the Robot, Ginny is an insanely strong character who matches Rudo in strength, they have the most easy way to expand outwards and have the best defensive point in the game.
I don't have enough experience with Guimoule and Norzaleo to comment on their nation, but their positioning is based on how annoying their allies are and how good their starting positioning looks to me.
The game is really easy so all opinions on factions should be made on comparison to you playing as each faction, instead of against the rest of the factions in the same map, the exception being Mana Saleesia, and only because Rudo exists and can one shot most of the characters, Talia for example has to take care not to ever be on Rudo's range or she's done, making playing as her faction especially annoying, same for Rubino but he can take on many factions before having to even share a border with them, the rest should make sure to never be on melee combat with Rudo, I think only Eliza and Tim can handle his strong skill without being put on death's door.
nice thoughts, try to imagine it as if each nation were player controlled and they faced each other.
There was this game, Dragon Force, and Rudo is like Goldark (who was almost a boss char and had to be unlocked,) he's def strong tho... but I still think sometimes raw dmg or whatever glosses over other things. For instance, I know Talia starts out weak, but she's a real problem when she gets leveled. IMO. Rubi, Tim, and El are all close enough to the same char, also IMO. Just basic mid level garbage. Guys w/ unique attacks, like the dude who gets necro rebirth, are cool, too. But yea, Shinobi has problems, but I think it's more their build than Talia. If she had better front liners, she'd be a beast.
Also, reclassing is interesting. I feel like (prol already said this?) Kate is best as an archer. I like Kate and the Barret guy (can't think of his name even tho he's on my squad haha.)
So I mean, keep in mind you can reclass a lot of people if you are worried about what they start with. It sucks, to me, that the game IS easy... because it's semi-deep. But I think the depth is what makes it easy, the cpu can't really wrap its head around it.
Edit: and only the stupid computer would put a ruler in Rudos range. haha. Some of those guys are immune to effect magic, forgot who, maybe Tim? That makes him unique. Cuz like I said stella or a hi lvl demon can really troll with dimension. SO UNDERRATED as a skill. prol 75/80% chance if it hits, it puts the char in some really bad position.
1. Rubino
- Highest stat growth: 10-4-3-3-2-A
- 20% Magic Dmg reduction passive, stack it with Adamantine Medallion to be super tanky
- Endgame full set 3*, 900+ HP, 197 def buffed, 50% magic resistance
- Good 3* Ice set equipment (Justice Helm for regen)
- Can reach 140+ STR, 130+ INT, 120+ AGI without equipment or Elixir at lv.30
- Partner with: Minstrel/Troubadour (Brave Song), Angel (Regen) and he can solo everything with full 3* set equipment (Durendal, Justice Brigandine/Helm, Adamantine Medallion)
Main Mode Rank: SS+
Creative/Challenge Mode Rank: SS+
Real Boss chara at level 30 together with Rudo
2. Rudo
- High stat growth: 8-2-3-2-2-B
- Has instant kill skill without movement restriction (270 power)
- Very high HP at level 30 (Can reach 930 - 970 with full set 3*)
- Holy Element dominate a lot (Tim, Stella, Demons, Dark Knights, Witch, Fenrir)
- Can one shot 400 HP monster or 500+ HP dark element enemy
- Great 3* set Holy equipment (Arondight, Forbidden Helm, Peerless Medallion)
- Reach 133 STR max in main mode, able to reach 160+ STR 110+ AGI 110+ INT in Creative/Challenge mode because he start at level 1
- Partner with: Minstrel/Troubadour (Brave Song), Angel (Regen) and same as Rubino, he can solo everything
Main Mode Rank: SS
Creative/Challenge Mode Rank: SS+
Real Boss chara at level 30 together with Rubino
3. Tim
- Decent stat growth: 8-8-2-3-2-A
- Has great physical skill without movement restriction (190 power, 100 MP), he can use it four or five times in a battle
- Bad 3* Dark element Obsidian set equipment (No good passives)
- For some reason, his growth, equipment set gives him stats to become a Mage (like Tyrfing weapon gives 13 ATK, 20 INT, 1 mobility), but his offensive spell is only Venom and Curse
- Half-assed. Stat growth is Mage like but no great offensive spell. Best in doing physical attack.
- Most versatile offensive class in the game. (Dimension, Debuff, Long range, Melee, Magic)
Main Mode Rank: S
Creative/Challenge Mode Rank: SS
4. Eliza
- Average stat growth: 8-6-2-2-2-A
- Bad 3* set fire equipment (Amulet of Glory, Inferno Helm), no passive only give rune power
- HP is on a lower side
- In Creative/Challenge mode, Blade of Ange cannot evolve to 3* version. (Please let me know if it is possible)
- High tier physical defense (parry, high AGI evasion), weak to magic (Sorceress, Siren and Rubino loves to use Frost, her weakness)
Main Mode Rank: A
Creative/Challenge Mode Rank: B (Cannot use 3* set is fatal, losing lot of stats)
5. Talia
- High stat growth: 8-6-2-2-3-S
- She is mostly a support early game, doing holy word and area heal
- Has a decent melee if needed
- Doesn't rely much on equipment, but getting Lightning Gungnir weapon early in the game can speed up her level up
- Mostly rely on her monsters to do dirty work and support them since he has a very high rune power with S-tier rune growth
- Low HP, very high MP (can reach 700 with equipment), sadly decent offensive spell only holy-word
Main Mode Rank: A
Creative/Challenge Mode Rank: A
6. Stella
- Average stat growth: 8-4-2-2-2-A
- Versatile melee attacker
- Only has 4 spell, but all of them are useful and is the best part of her.
- 2 game changing spell (Dimension is more or less removing that unit from game, Charm -> charmed enemy can be ganked without retaliating)
- Strong unit killer spell (Gravity and Spell Break). Give gravity to Sniper like Elena or Rei, and they can be killed easily. Give Spell Break to buffed Paladin / Rudo, combined with Weakness from Nightmare, they become penguin.
- Dragon's Destruction Melee skill is decent but need Gremlin's React since it is movement restricted.
- Best partner: Nightmare, Gremlin
Main Mode Rank: S
Creative/Challenge Mode Rank: S
Please do correct me for any misinformation.