Harem Route?

[Jivebot]

Yay or Nay?

[Dashal Darwin]

Nay.

[Jivebot]

Sigh.

[Dashal Darwin]

There is no reason to sigh my friend.

The yah's in this case are the silent majority for sure.
There will always be more for it, than against it.

I'm just the vocal majority "at this moment" in time.
Trust me when I say, more will always want them all :)

People are probably just seeing this and ignoring it, believing you already know they want it.

[Demonic1]

My biggest issue with not having a harem route comes from the first game. With many romance options and only being able to pursue one per play through in a game with heavy grinding and easy missed quests I didn't see nearly as much content as I would've liked to in the ~140 hours I put into the game. It's the completionist in me. I like to try and do everything a game has to offer but had to quit after getting tired of the restarting from scratch and grinding needed in the first game to try alternate routes.

[Jivebot]

Originally posted by Demonic1:

My biggest issue with not having a harem route comes from the first game. With many romance options and only being able to pursue one per play through in a game with heavy grinding and easy missed quests I didn't see nearly as much content as I would've liked to in the ~140 hours I put into the game. It's the completionist in me. I like to try and do everything a game has to offer but had to quit after getting tired of the restarting from scratch and grinding needed in the first game to try alternate routes.

I like to lean into the joke a bit, but yeah. That's the main turn off for me in games like this. I dont want to have to re-grind just to experience that content. And with so many romance options, that is ALOT of content to feel frozen out of when I play.

[Dashal Darwin]

Originally posted by Demonic1:

My biggest issue with not having a harem route comes from the first game. With many romance options and only being able to pursue one per play through in a game with heavy grinding and easy missed quests I didn't see nearly as much content as I would've liked to in the ~140 hours I put into the game. It's the completionist in me. I like to try and do everything a game has to offer but had to quit after getting tired of the restarting from scratch and grinding needed in the first game to try alternate routes.

I play many VN's

That tends to be where my issue with harems comes from.
Same with the 1 true ending/real romance option.

Is it becomes the focus and everything else suffers.
Again this is my opinion, this next comment will piss off lots of people.

There was a game called Hana little sister.
I was told to play it, I'd love it (I hated it) the game is the younger sister is sick, turns out shes adopted. I actually liked the story around the other romance option but it died off after the half way point and favoured Hana ... who I couldn't stand.
Yes the game was intended for Hana but I can pull many points like this happening all across the board.

Snow Sakura is one of my favourite ones, for single ones proving it to pushing you to go 1 of 2 paths for the feeling of true romance, despite it also at the same time trying to make it feel like you have options but the story line feeling rushed on all but 2, but still more so favouring 1 character.

That type of thing is common with true romance with harem usually games lead you into a one it feels as to get the best story. I'd rather have more options and see each person on their own. Harem to me are just cop outs to get away from a story line and give people what they want with little work.

I've got over 400 hours I think on DD's 1 male protag and I think over 130 on female protag.

I tend to like more content myself and to put in Harem just to me seems lazy and I think those who like those will only go for that.
The issue you had with the first one not having it..... Well brother it made sense not to have it. Did you notice women got upset when you were friendly someone else? That lack of trust might have been there for good reason *cough cough*"Grant"*cough cough*
All women wanted you for themselves and pushed you away when caught. They didn't seem to like you going for someone else.

As hinted before, there was reason for that, in general women want a man to themselves and also that grant was playing everyone. So.... There was good reason for a harem not to be in it. They were almost in one so to speak.

[Demonic1]

You seem to be confused about my issue. I don't have a problem with games not having a harem, most don't. My issue is the lack of a harem option for the player (while being ok for the rival) meant many play throughs to see the various content for each and with each play through taking quite a while to get through due to the grind needed in the game. The few romance options I did get through for the first game I liked, but the completionist in me wanted to go through and see each one and that would've required hundreds more hours that I couldn't do because of getting bored of the regrinding needed.

People who got the game much later than I might not have the same issue because there was no new game+ mode during the several months I played the game and when it was finally added (after I moved on to other games) it didn't work with my save. If that would've been included at launch or soon after I would've rated the game much higher and been able to see much more content. IMO, games with many route options and timed events that you can be easily locked out of and also have a lot of grinding built it should always have a NG+ feature in them and that's what lead to my issues for the first game.

[Dashal Darwin]

If you're a completionist as you claim then you know the grind comes with it and no sense to complain about it.

I guess you missed when I pointed why there was no Harem for the M.C. in the first one.

TL;DR
-> Girls wouldn't leave a harem to join a new harem.
That is why there was a big jealousy factor in the first one.
Because they wanted to be the centre of attention.

I agree timed events suck and being locked out can kill enjoyment.
So many games can lock you out of stuff for silly reasons.
Its not like this is the first game to do that.

I always go through a game BEYOND slow, so I rarely miss events.

This game might be different and possibly not time sensitive as the first one.
There was the whole plot of being the first to the end, in the first game.

In the demo there really isn't much to imply a race is going on, the fact it shows you're more going into school, I'd take as it being slower than the first and possibly more story driven than relying on dungeon runs so heavily.

I don't agree with the fact of you saying because of people who got it later......
If this is your train of thought then don't play games early, wait till its about a year after release to play. Every game at launch will have problems.
Ever see the issues Cyberpunk 2077 had? I played the ♥♥♥♥ out of that with all the problems, you power through it and move on.
I loved it even when it was problem every where.

I had an issue with fallout 4 on a DLC that was never fixed.
An NPC I needed for a quest refused to talk but I could kill the ♥♥♥♥ out of him , for him to stand back up each time and keep fighting back.
Had to start over, it happens, you get over it.