METACRITIC SCORE IS 8 out of 10

[garytc78]

That's what HW3 deserves! a good 8! and i agree totally!
unfortunately this forums are a plague.... :-(

[Mastermatta]

Originally posted by Zakalwe:

The 'Mostly Negative' red banner is one of the only two scores that count. The other is yesterday's player numbers, which peaked at less that 300 people.

It really doesn't matter if critics give it a 10/10 or a 0/10: The studio will either face massive staff cuts now or be closed down entirely later this year (or early 2025). That's what a failed game really looks like, and let's be completely clear here, this game is a catastrophic failure in pretty much every way it can be.

We all know who totally botched the story, but I wonder which idiot had final say over the game-play structure. It took both of those points of failure to kill the game at retail.

I don't think you realize no such thing will happen. BBI is an independent dev. They were contracted to do homeworld 3. Gearbox has no say over the running of BBI.

[Neozoon]

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

I don't think you realize no such thing will happen. BBI is an independent dev. They were contracted to do homeworld 3. Gearbox has no say over the running of BBI.

And why does same developer not have such amount of DLC when being under other publishers?

[Zakalwe]

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

Originally posted by Zakalwe:

The 'Mostly Negative' red banner is one of the only two scores that count. The other is yesterday's player numbers, which peaked at less that 300 people.

It really doesn't matter if critics give it a 10/10 or a 0/10: The studio will either face massive staff cuts now or be closed down entirely later this year (or early 2025). That's what a failed game really looks like, and let's be completely clear here, this game is a catastrophic failure in pretty much every way it can be.

We all know who totally botched the story, but I wonder which idiot had final say over the game-play structure. It took both of those points of failure to kill the game at retail.

I don't think you realize no such thing will happen. BBI is an independent dev. They were contracted to do homeworld 3. Gearbox has no say over the running of BBI.

What touching naivety!

Independent studios DON'T lose control of their project the way BBI did. Gearbox was calling the shots for at least half the game's development time.

[Mastermatta]

Originally posted by Zakalwe:

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

I don't think you realize no such thing will happen. BBI is an independent dev. They were contracted to do homeworld 3. Gearbox has no say over the running of BBI.

What touching naivety!

Independent studios DON'T lose control of their project the way BBI did. Gearbox was calling the shots for at least half the game's development time.

They are an independent studio. Gearbox owns homeworld but not bbi. So gearbox has a right to change homeworld 3 however they want but they have no control over staffing at bbi.

[Zytel]

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

Originally posted by Zakalwe:

What touching naivety!

Independent studios DON'T lose control of their project the way BBI did. Gearbox was calling the shots for at least half the game's development time.

They are an independent studio. Gearbox owns homeworld but not bbi. So gearbox has a right to change homeworld 3 however they want but they have no control over staffing at bbi.

You're not really independent is someone is interfering in your business.

[RoReaver]

Originally posted by Zytel:

You're not really independent is someone is interfering in your business.

You are if you, as a company, can go "You're exceeding the agreed upon limits of our agreement. Goodbye.".

[Mastermatta]

Originally posted by Zytel:

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

They are an independent studio. Gearbox owns homeworld but not bbi. So gearbox has a right to change homeworld 3 however they want but they have no control over staffing at bbi.

You're not really independent is someone is interfering in your business.

If you hire a company to renovate a part of your home before you put it on the market for sale and you tell them how you want them to do the renovations does that make the company not independent? They have to listen to you, they cant just renovate your home in a style you dont want, however you dont have any right to decide hiring/firing at that company because you dont own them, you are simply paying them for a job. This is what the relationship betweem gearbox and bbi is basically.

[Flushing]

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

Originally posted by Zytel:

You're not really independent is someone is interfering in your business.

If you hire a company to renovate a part of your home before you put it on the market for sale and you tell them how you want them to do the renovations does that make the company not independent? They have to listen to you, they cant just renovate your home in a style you dont want, however you dont have any right to decide hiring/firing at that company because you dont own them, you are simply paying them for a job. This is what the relationship betweem gearbox and bbi is basically.

Remember the time when games were allowed to miss the mark and have their flaws, without players doing a deep dive into corporate structure and doing PI work on matters of HR, contracts, and consulting relationships?

I mean, if the product is not to your liking it is because of the sum total of decisions that were made to complete the product, but it ends there. Return the product or don't buy it.

Why is it necessary to form these multi-chain conspiracy theories guessing at what happened within a corporate structure?

[RoReaver]

Originally posted by Flushing:

Why is it necessary to form these multi-chain conspiracy theories guessing at what happened within a corporate structure?

Because many, many, games suffered from it provably so (the 2014 gamergate movement I was a part of basically kicked off because the conspiracy of collusion to set narratives about the coverage of a game during its launch window was proven 100% correct with some games basically, quite literally, paying "in nature" for positive coverage). But people seem to have forgotten a game can break an ankle on a rock not just because a shadowy cabal hit it over the head and then broke its ankle (or, not everything is a nail so don't hammer in that bloody screw).