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Kobold 2024년 5월 13일 오후 6시 21분
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Denuvo+EULA? Look first at your OS: Linux Gamer Guide
Linux is Gaming Ready today and around ~80% games running Plug&Play in Steam, while ~17% required some tinkering, you can get rid (after time) of the Spy OS Win10/11 and install for example Manjaro/KDE (recommend by Valve) or other Distro's. For the first steps in Linux there is also recommendation to use Mint/Cinnamon.

You can easily play games with Steam today, activate Proton in Steam and press Play, most of the time it just works. Other game launcher's will works too, but not this perfect as Steam.

Most FAQ's around Linux, Install & Gaming included in this Guide. AMD and Nvidia GPU's working today under Linux (AMD GPU's even better than my nvidia 2080Ti).

Linux is gaming ready today, we no longer need Microsoft! I'm mainly use Linux since almost 4 years now, as gamer! I have Win10 installed and used it only for VR Simracing today. The performance under Linux is equal and retro games that no longer working under Windows today, are working even better under Linux. RTX effect's still perform's better under Windows yet.

You don't have to decide between Linux or Windows, you can also use both and find the middle way between both worlds, its the best when you do a slow progression.

Homeworld 3 Steam Linux User Info's:
https://www.protondb.com/app/1840080

Homeworld Remastered Collection:
https://www.protondb.com/app/244160

Privacy Concerns?
With Microsoft NEW Service Agreement to scan & use all (AI/Hatespeech/Advertising) your locale stored files, its a middle finger to the normal user. Set a clear sign to Microsoft to ♥♥♥♥ off and install Linux. Get your Privacy and control back!

Microsoft own's your PC right now and its getting worse (Co-Pilot/Recall). If you think the Denuvo EULA is the worst, look first what M$ is doing... remember you can shutdown your Games/Launcher's/Steam (which has Telemetry/Spy functions) but your OS will still Spy on you and no Third-Party Windows Tool's will stop that! You can't disable Telemetry around Windows anymore, this "Disable Telemetry" buttons are fake since Win10 release!!!

M$ Updated Service Agreement 10/2023:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1VKB7ffJIw (in 14m)
@5:10 All Covered Services, specially MS Defender, which should be a local service.

MS Office (delayed) offline telemetry:
https://youtu.be/p3L7bLYz-mk?t=593

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Information/Overview if you interested to try out Linux:
I just can recommend to everyone who is deciding to get his feet wet, instead jumping straight into Linux water, to buy another external/internal SSD (250-500GB should be enough). So you can easy decide which OS you want to boot when you start your PC and with a hotkey (for my Bios its F12) to choose which HDD/SSD you wanted to boot from, without messing around with dual boot function between Windows and Linux.
"You always need a additional USB Boot-Stick to install, same as installing Windows"

I bought 4 years ago a Samsung Portable SSD T5 (500GB) which performs really good and i can't even see the difference between my Linux Laptop which has a M.2 SSD.

"For (little) testing you can even install Linux on a USB stick, if you don't have the money for a second internal/external SSD, i think the bare minimum should be a 30-50GB USB Stick. Some people maybe try Virtual Machine, but a VM never gives Linux the performance as a native installation, at least not without advanced VM Settings!"

In the early phase i switched regularly between Win7 and Linux which gave me a good feeling for a better transition, to find program's for Linux that replaced my program's under Windows.

Distro (Fundament 40%) & Desktop Environment (Surface 60%):
Some Distributions allows to choose several different Desktop Environments. Depends on the liking and the eye candy or the age on your Hardware. I was in shock after i realised how much stuff rely on the DE and not the Distro.

So choosing a Desktop Environment (DE) is also a big decision, there are really beautiful DE's out there and you can (you don't have too) adjust them "MODDING" them, specially KDE has really good functions with Transparency Taskbar with Blur effects or to archive your old/retro Win2k or Win7 looks.

Youtube could probably give you a quick peek, KDE easy GUI Modification (no terminal needed) and I never was running into a single bug on my Rolling Release from this Layouts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJzfaqRLfpY

Budgie and Cinnamon DE's has probably also good layouts.
XFCE, LXQt and Mate DE's are for older hardware or just less RAM hungry.

Debian(noob)/Red Hat(Soldier)/Arch(Veteran) and their Distro's:
To choose a Distro is another Story, it depends on the Hardware (age) and Packages (age) that are available. A Rolling Release gets always the newest Kernel Updates (Device Drivers) for better performance/newer Hardware but that's require little bit more time for maintaining the OS. The support for Official Repositories, Flatpaks, AUR, AppImages and Snap's shows the amount of Package's/Program's for your Distro.

The Package Manager (GUI) like Pamac for example take care of that Packages. You just search your Progam's name> select it>click on apply to let it install, after that it shows up in your Taskbar. You can activate additional support for Flat/Snap/AUR under properties, that's not activated as default.

Some Distro's just give more freedom then others, while Mint is good for unexperienced users and mainly for people who just want to quick running their games, browse, print and don't care about adjustments... it also has its limitations.

So when you choose a Distro, get aware how old the package are... specially for gaming performance the Arch Tree and the Distro's that are based on Arch is the Ultimate gaming goal but probably at least Manjaro is only recommend for beginner who is willing to learn more. Red Hat Distro's like Nobara are in the middle. Debian Distro's are older but more stable.

I think its fair to say that some Distro's from Debian/Red Hat/Arch doesn't always follow the Big Tree Agenda and wants to make something special. Its your choice to chose, same as buying a car.

Arch Vanilla is the hardest Distro in Linux, while Manjaro (Arch) protect the user's and delay (per default branch) for 1-3 Weeks the packages when there are still bugs around that can't be fixed at the moment, downside in this situation's. People who using "heavily" AUR Packages (AUR not activated per default) are running into problem's, because AUR Updates won't get delayed.

Youtube Streamer's don't like that idea about package delay and downvoted Manjaro while at the other hand, they are unaware (incompetent) that you can switch Manjaro Branches between Stable (default), testing & unstable. The last branch are recommend for heavily AUR usage. https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Switching_Branches

Terminal:
Yes, a Terminal Window is sometimes needed for Linux and is a mighty tool, but you can reduce it to a bare minimum and a lot functions are there as a simple Graphics User Interface (GUI), the most Youtube beginner video's still fool people with information that they need to install/adjust all possible settings inside a Terminal, but in most situations its a lie. With a few mouse clicks the Package-Manager will install/remove or update "almost" everything at just one place.
KDE Partition Manager (or GParted) are visually more userfriendly as the integrated Windows11 Tools today!

Disable Bios Features:
Its recommend that you disable "Fast Boot" when using Linux, you probably run into issues sooner or later because of this feature.

Also Keep in mind, that the whole Arch Tree don't give official support for "Secure Boot". Deactivate "Secure Boot".

Win11 user's are forced to activate TPM/Secure Boot in Bios, while Win10 User's are free to chose, Microsoft wants to control the PC Boot and steal your local passwords with TPM Cloud storage. This has nothing to do with security its only advertising from Microsoft, its a hardware dongle from Microsoft and it gives Microsoft (not you) the security, so its a verification process and is designed against free and open source.

Pre-Install Tip, if you don't want to use Dual Boot on a Single Drive:
Disable your Windows Drive while installing Linux, you can do that in Bios and disable the SATA Ports or unplug the power connector from your drive's. This gives you 2 advantages, first you can't do a mistake with your partitions/files while you installing.

Second there is no connection between Linux/Windows. Keep in mind to do the same (vise versa) when you re-install Windows in future. Of course you can activate your Windows Drive after you done with the install.

Install with USB-Bootstick:
You can Download the Image (ISO) File from your chosen Distro, create a Bootstick with Ventoy/Rufus or Etcher (But Etcher has shady telemetry). What can be confusion, that you may see 2 times the same Linux Boot option shown in your Bios from your fresh created Bootstick.

One entry is for "Legacy BIOS also called CSM" Boot and the other is for "UEFI BIOS also called EFI" Boot. If you selected the wrong you will later see while installing on the drive a error, no big deal no dmg will happen... just try the other Boot-entry then and it should work.

Nvidia user's should use Nvidia Proprietary Driver:
The most Distro's has used per default the Free (reversed engineered) Nvidia driver called "Nouveau" while the driver is good for older GPU's like nvidia 1060-1080Ti (Pascal) and will doing a goodjob for normal Browsing/Media. https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html

It's not the first choice for gaming!!! Most Distro's has a simple UI to switch between this driver's. For Manjaro/KDE it is in Taskbar>Settings>Manjaro Settings Manager>Hardware Configuration.

Setup Linux Steam/Proton:
1.Steam should be Pre-installed in most distro's but it can easily added with your Visually Package Manager from your Distro. Search it/Select it and click apply, that's it. Steam looks 97% identical to the Windows Version.

2.Activate Proton in Steam: Open Top left Steam>Settings>Compatibility and choose Proton Experimental. Also activate the 2 Steam Play Switches! You only need a EXT4 Partition (instead NTFS) for maximum user experience and just install your games in your Steam Folder (default location is your Home Partition) or create a second library (same as in Windows to install on a second drive/another partition) more user friendliness isn't possible... In Steam its 1:1 the same feeling as under Windows. Around 80% of Steam Games works Plug & Play, the other's needs "maybe" a Steam launch command>Properties from your Steamgame and copy+paste it from ProtonDB Webpage, less then 3% of Steam Games will not run!

Wayland (NEW) vs X11 (old but still strong):
There is at the moment a big development change around the "Linux Display Server" inside the most DE's. Wayland will probably replace X11 over time and it will improve rendering performance.
AMD actually support Wayland better than Nvidia. While the most Program's still just working better under X11 right now, but this will change in future.

Its possible that you run into a Blackscreen with only a mouse cursor at the moment, when you using Nvidia. In KDE you can switch between X11 and Wayland at the bottom left of the Login Screen (SDDM).
From my viewpoint you may want to use Wayland for AMD GPU's and X11 for Nvidia, but it should be your choice. There is no right or wrong at this moment.

A little NTFS Warning just in case:
NTFS is a MS-Windows (emulated) Filesystem in Linux and could lead to data corruption, but "reading" files should be no problem. Better to mount it as Read-Only just in case. When you want to transfer data between MS-Windows and Linux use a (recommended) exFat Partition or Fat32.
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(Optional) Holding Hand's Install Linux Video Guide (Mint+Gaming):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyT4wfz5ZMg
(but with 4x critics from my side:)
1. Not telling about disabling Fast Boot
2. Using Balena "Etcher" has inbuilt Telemetrie, better is Ventoy.
3. Later he recommend to install Proton low level Kernel Anti Cheat Software
EAC or Battle-eye. This is against his own agenda to be against Kernel AC.
4. He failed with the explanation about the nvidia freedriver.

Win10 support end's at the end of 2025:
Older Hardware like (AMD) Zen1 or (Intel) Skylake don't have TPM and the newest Win11 Update 24H2 reject this system and bypassing is no longer allowed.

FPS Performance comparison Arch vs Win11:
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-12/welche-linux-distribution-zum-spielen/2/
(no need to watch part1 /its outdated):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5r1KSmOVss

Personal Manjaro Experience:
I had my first time with Linux (Red Hat "Caldera") as i was 14 years old, i uninstalled it pretty quick because nothing was running and it was very complicated this was 1997 (around Diablo1 times) and i saw nothing what Linux would give me at this time.
Windows wasn't all this years no data harvester but this changed finally with Win10.

Linux has developed greatly in the past 23 years. (But the outdated Rumor's from Windows user's, that Linux sucks are still there.)

So i started my real journey with Linux around 2020 collecting information about the big 3 Linux Tree's (Debian, Arch and Redhat) and it was a close decision between Mint and Manjaro the big difference im a Tech Nerd (not a coder) and i don't mind to learn and maintain my system. You get stable release (Kernel) updates every 2-3 Weeks pretty easy to install in the Package Manager UI and sometimes there are .pacnew files (config files, in general only 5 per year) or little bugs to fix and its required to look in https://forum.manjaro.org/c/announcements/stable-updates/12 the Forum to fix them, won't take long and they are rare but even as bloody noob i could pretty quick handle it. It was like destroying the final boss in Doom and i was total happy to archive the first experience points and fight the little bug and that i don't need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MS Developer to get the job done xD

When i use my PC/Laptop around 12hours per day, i only spend maybe 1-2min with the Terminal per week average, no big deal for a average use case. Linux in general has really awesome driver support, you would be surprised even to boot into a Linux live environment how instant your PC is running without doing anything at all.. my yaw dropped to the bottom as the first time i booted from my Manjaro KDE (Full ISO)USB Stick and opened the filebrowser (called dolphin) to watch 30sec later Star Trek Voyager per drag+drop from NTFS drive in VLC Player, in a Linux OS without even installing it WTF.

My printer was instant running also, the sames goes with many other devices, "almost" everything just works. My Creative Soundcard X-fi was running instant, but my new Creative Soundblaster AE-5 is another story and required Alsamixer but still it was working with Forum help and this super Linux Brains which reversed Engineered the creative driver for my AE-5 Soundcard holy crap... take this Duke Nukem 3D Boss yaaay :D

It took me 6month to learn the most advanced stuff around Linux (like FSTAB, GRUB, Alsamixer, Timeshift, Pacman and most used Terminal Commands), when i remember how many years i need to learn the most stuff from MS-DOS, Win3.11, Win95... to Windows10 the road had stones too.

Im 40years old now and i could do it to learn Linux, you can do it too.

DONATION:
Don't forget to Donate Money to the smaller Open Source Projects and don't play the greedy card, this social coders need to eat too and they have a Soul... not like this closed source Demons :D I donated the last 3 years around 400€ and split the money to around 12 Open Source Projects.
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Psycho 2024년 5월 15일 오후 1시 09분 
"Microsoft own's your PC right now."

no they dont.
but if you upload and share content with their services, they have the right to review this content to make sure you're not breaking the law.
afaik there are several countries putting pressure on online service providers to make sure no illegal stuff is being distributed.
Kobold 2024년 5월 15일 오후 2시 15분 
Psycho님이 먼저 게시:
"Microsoft own's your PC right now."

no they dont.
but if you upload and share content with their services, they have the right to review this content to make sure you're not breaking the law.
This is far beyond uploading data, you can see in the Updated Service Agreement, which Microsoft Windows Services are Involved. And this includes even "Windows Defender" which is a Local Process (Anti-Virus) and just designed to scan your local HDD/SSD's!

Since Hatespeech today, isn't Hatespeech anymore... if you know what i mean.
Your Microsoft Account/Login and your cloudfiles all around your C:\ Partition which uploaded automatical (OneCloud can be deactivated btw.) your Private Files, this can lead to a disabled Windows Login in future, if you have another opinion as your government. But there is only one truth anyways, right? /s

The TPM Module which is a Win11 requirement. Stores also all your local Passwords and upload them into the cloud, this isn't about security! It's all about spying.

Microsoft decides if your PC/Laptop is allowed to boot and can refuse it,
with the help from Secure Boot + TPM 2.0 = Microsoft own's your Hardware,
if you activate this Bios Features, if you like it or not.

Search into a random PC Forum about Bitdefender + TPM.

Default complain from OEM User's that their drives got encrypted by pre-installed Bitdefender and they don't have a Recovery Key. After Hardware change, 90% user's can't access their files anymore and no one can help them!

if they don't have the Recovery Key, every data is lost after the third failed attempt!
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GatoMancer 2024년 5월 15일 오후 3시 53분 
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
PIT_DEFENDER님이 먼저 게시:
Thats good to know Ubuntu is the only Linux I used in the past so I would probably pick that if was to go back to it. I wonder what was the reason tho.
The reason was money as usual... Ubuntu is a Debian based Distro, there are other similar Distro's out there and i'm sure for gaming there is Pop!OS or Mint giving probably a little more fps, without Opt-out Telemetry.

Canonical only "owns" the Ubuntu branding and does have some requirements for the variants to classify as a "-buntu" spin off in name, but the variants only use Ubuntu as a base with their own changes and adjustments (like the default Desktop, pre-installs, core OS tweaks, etc). They don't carry over anything like advertising or "suggested apps" in the UI. The "Discovery Center" (package manager) does have a few "suggested items" on its front but nothing commercial on it.

not saying Kubuntu is perfect but it suits my needs just fine on multiple systems (Budget R7 laptops, my ASUS ROG Strix gaming laptop, and my R7 Desktop). My only minor issue with my ASUS laptop is the Keybaord back lighting and LED highlights fully turn OFF when I boot Linux, not sure if there's a tool to enable that yet.
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Kobold 2024년 5월 16일 오전 5시 47분 
GatoMancer님이 먼저 게시:
Canonical only "owns" the Ubuntu branding and does have some requirements for the variants to classify as a "-buntu" spin off in name, but the variants only use Ubuntu as a base with their own changes and adjustments (like the default Desktop, pre-installs, core OS tweaks, etc). They don't carry over anything like advertising or "suggested apps" in the UI. The "Discovery Center" (package manager) does have a few "suggested items" on its front but nothing commercial on it.

not saying Kubuntu is perfect but it suits my needs just fine on multiple systems (Budget R7 laptops, my ASUS ROG Strix gaming laptop, and my R7 Desktop). My only minor issue with my ASUS laptop is the Keybaord back lighting and LED highlights fully turn OFF when I boot Linux, not sure if there's a tool to enable that yet.
I think you missed few of my questions related to Kubuntu.

Let me know how the transition goes from KDE5 to KDE6 on Kubuntu. My Manjaro Distro just rolled out KDE6 on stable release just 3 days ago, after delaying updates for 2 month. I still fear the update.
GatoMancer 2024년 5월 16일 오후 7시 08분 
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
GatoMancer님이 먼저 게시:
Canonical only "owns" the Ubuntu branding and does have some requirements for the variants to classify as a "-buntu" spin off in name, but the variants only use Ubuntu as a base with their own changes and adjustments (like the default Desktop, pre-installs, core OS tweaks, etc). They don't carry over anything like advertising or "suggested apps" in the UI. The "Discovery Center" (package manager) does have a few "suggested items" on its front but nothing commercial on it.

not saying Kubuntu is perfect but it suits my needs just fine on multiple systems (Budget R7 laptops, my ASUS ROG Strix gaming laptop, and my R7 Desktop). My only minor issue with my ASUS laptop is the Keybaord back lighting and LED highlights fully turn OFF when I boot Linux, not sure if there's a tool to enable that yet.
I think you missed few of my questions related to Kubuntu.

Let me know how the transition goes from KDE5 to KDE6 on Kubuntu. My Manjaro Distro just rolled out KDE6 on stable release just 3 days ago, after delaying updates for 2 month. I still fear the update.

No I didn't miss your telemetry question, i just didn't have an answer for it yet.

Kubuntu 24.04 is running Plasma 5.27.11, it'll probly be the next short term support edition that'll have version 6, K 24.04 is the next LTS.

Also solved my lighting issue, had to install "rogauracore" (CLI tool) to send the commands to the lighting. For some reason when Linux Boots the lighting system defaults to brightness zero so no back lighting.
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Atlas 2024년 5월 17일 오전 3시 32분 
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
Linux is Gaming Ready today and a lot games running flawless today, you can get rid (after time) of the Spy OS Win10/11 and install Manjaro/KDE (its on of the best Linux Distro's out there and also recommend by Valve) or other Distro's. For the first steps in Linux there is also recommendation to use Mint/Cinnamon.

You can easily play games with Steam today, activate Proton in steam and press play, most of the time it just works.

With Microsoft new service agreement (since October 2023) to scan & use all (for AI) your private locale files, its a middle finger to the Private User anyways, set a clear sign to Microsoft to ♥♥♥♥ off and install Linux. Get your Privacy and control back!

Microsoft own's your PC right now. If you think the Denuvo EULA is the worst, look first what M$ is doing... remember you can Shutdown your Games or Steam but your OS will still Spy on you and no Third-Party Windows Tool will stop that! You can't disable Telemetry in Win10/Win11!!!

M$ Service Agreement 10/2023:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOUdY4Pj_ec

MS Office (delayed) offline telemetry:
https://youtu.be/p3L7bLYz-mk?t=593

Linux is gaming ready today, we no longer need Microsoft! I'm mainly use Linux since almost 4 years now, as gamer! I have Win10 installed and used it only for VR Gaming and Simracing today.

You don't have to decide between Linux or Windows, you can also use both and find the middle way between both worlds, you can do a slow progression, no one is forcing you!

Homeworld 3 Steam Linux User Info's:
https://www.protondb.com/app/1840080

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Information/Overview if you interested to try out Linux:
I just can recommend to everyone who is deciding to get his feet wet, instead jumping straight into Linux water, to buy another external/internal SSD (250-500GB should be enough). So you can easy decide which OS you want to boot when you start your PC and with a hotkey (for my Bios its F12) to choose which HDD/SSD you wanted to boot from, without messing around with dual boot function between Windows and Linux.
"You always need a additional USB Boot-Stick to install, same as installing Windows"

I bought 4 years ago a Samsung Portable SSD T5 (500GB) which performs really good and i can't even see the difference between my Linux Laptop which has a M.2 SSD.

"For (little) testing you can even install Linux on a USB stick, if you don't have the money for a second internal/external SSD, i think the bare minimum should be a 30-50GB USB Stick. Some people maybe try Virtual Machine, but a VM never gives Linux the performance as a native installation, at least not without advanced VM Settings!"

In the early phase i switched regularly between Win7 and Linux which gave me a good feeling for a better transition, to find program's for Linux that replaced my program's under Windows.

Distro (Fundament 40%) & Desktop Environment (Surface 60%):
Some Distributions allows to choose several different Desktop Environments. Depends on the liking and the eye candy or the age on your Hardware. I was in shock after i realised how much stuff rely on the DE and not the Distro.

So choosing a Desktop Environment (DE) is also a big decision, there are really beautiful DE's out there and you can (you don't have too) adjust them "MODDING" them, specially KDE has really good functions with Transparency Taskbar with Blur effects or to archive your old/retro Win2k or Win7 navigation feeling.

Youtube could probably give you a quick peek, after you visited your chosen distro page to download the ISO File.

KDE easy GUI Modification (no terminal needed) and I never was running into a single bug on my Rolling Release from this Layouts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJzfaqRLfpY

Budgie and Cinnamon DE's has probably also good layouts.
Gnome, XFCE, LXQt and Mate DE's are for older hardware or just less RAM hungry.

Distributions:
To choose a Distro is another Story, it depends on the Hardware and Packages that are available. Rolling Release or not, to always get the newest Kernel Updates (Drivers) for better performance/newer Hardware but thats require little bid more time for maintaining the OS. The support for Official Reposition/Flatpak/AppImage/AUR or Snaps (While Snaps the last recommend Package installer is and forced for Ubuntu Users, as far as i know).

Some Distro's just give more freedom then others, while Mint is good for unexperienced users and mainly for people who just want to quick running their games and browse and don't care about adjustments... it also has its limitations.

So when you choose a distro, get aware how old the package are... specially for gaming performance the Arch Tree and the distro's that are based on Arch is the Ultimate gaming goal but probably only recommend for beginner who is willing to learn more. Red Hat Distro's like Nobara are the middle way between Debian/Arch.

Arch Vanilla is the hardest distro in Linux, while Manjaro (Arch) protect the user's and delay packages when there are still bugs around that can't be fixed at the moment (Top news! actually shown with big KDE 6 release right now), downside in this situation's people who using heavily AUR Packages are running into problem's.

Youtube Streamer's don't like that idea about package delay and downvoted Manjaro while at the other hand, they are unaware (incompetent) that you can switch Manjaro Branches between Stable (default), testing & unstable. The last branch are recommend for heavily AUR usage.

Terminal:
Yes, a Terminal Window is sometimes needed for Linux and is a mighty tool, but you can reduce it to a bare minimum and a lot functions are there as a simple Graphics User Interface (GUI), the most Youtube beginner video's still fool people with information that they need to adjust all possible settings inside a Terminal, but in most situations its a lie. I don't understand where their goal is.

Disable Bios Features:
Its recommend that you disable "Fast Boot" when using Linux, you probably run into issues sooner or later because of Fast Boot.

Also Keep in mind, that the whole ARCH Tree don't give official support for "Secure Boot". Deactivate "Secure Boot".

Win11 user's are forced to activate TPM/Secure Boot in Bios, while Win10 User's are free to chose, Microsoft wants to control the PC Boot and steal your local passwords with TPM Cloud storage. This has nothing to do with security its only advertising from Microsoft, its a hardware dongle for Microsoft and it gives Microsoft (not you) the security, so its a verification process and is designed against free and open source.

Pre-Install Tip, if you don't want to use Dual Boot on a Single Drive:
Disable your Windows Drive while installing Linux, you can do that in Bios and disable the SATA Ports or unplug the power connector from your drive's. This gives you 2 advantages, first you can't do a mistake with your partitions/files while you installing.

Second there is no connection between Linux/Windows. Keep in mind to do the same (vise versa) when you re-install Windows in future. Of course you can activate your Windows Drive after you done with the install.

Install with USB-Bootstick:
You can Download the Free Image version from your chosen Distro, created with
Ventoy or Rufus (Etcher has shady telemetry no longer recommend) they all are Bootstick creation tools. What can be confusion that you see 2 times the same Linux Boot option shown in your Bios from your fresh created Bootstick.

One entry is for "Legacy BIOS also called CSM" Boot and the other is for "UEFI BIOS also called EFI" Boot. if you selected the wrong you will later see a error, no big deal no dmg will happen... just try the other Boot-entry then and it should work.

Nvidia user's should use Nvidia Proprietary Driver:
The most Distro's has used per default the Free (reversed engineered) Nvidia driver called "Nouveau" while the driver is good for older GPU's like nvidia 1060-1080Ti (Pascal) and will doing a goodjob for normal Browsing/Media. https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html

It's not the first choice for gaming!!! Most Distro's/DE's has a simple UI to switch between this 2 driver's. For KDE its in Taskbar>settings>system settings>Hardware Configuration.

Setup Linux Steam/Proton:
1.Steam should be Pre-installed in most distro's but it can easily added with your Visually Package Manager from your Distro. Search it/Select it and click apply, that's it. Steam looks 97% identical to the Windows Version.
2.Activate Proton in Steam: Open Top left Steam>Settings>Compatibility and choose Proton Experimental. Also activate the 2 Steam Play Switches! You only need a EXT4 Partition (instead NTFS) for maximum user experience and just install your games in your Steam Folder (default location is your Home Partition) or create a second library (same as in Windows to install on a second drive/another partition) more user friendliness isn't possible... In Steam its 1:1 the same feeling as under Windows. Around 85% of Steam Games works Plug & Play, the other's needs "maybe" a Steam launch command>Properties from your Steamgame and copy+paste it from ProtonDB Webpage, less then 2% of Steam Games will not run!

Win10 support end's at the end of 2025:
Older Hardware like (AMD) Zen1 or (Intel) Skylake don't have TPM and the newest Win11 Update 24H2 reject this system and bypassing is no longer allowed.

A little NTFS Warning just in case:
NTFS is a MS-Windows (emulated) Filesystem in Linux and could lead to data corruption, but "reading" files should be no problem. Better to mount it as Read-Only just in case. When you want to transfer data between MS-Windows and Linux use a (recommended) exFat Partition or Fat32.

FPS Performance comparison Arch vs Win11:
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-12/welche-linux-distribution-zum-spielen/2/
(no need to watch part1 /its outdated):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5r1KSmOVss

(Optional) Holding Hand's Install Linux Video Guide (Mint+Gaming):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyT4wfz5ZMg
(but with 4x critics from my side:)
1. Not telling about disabling Fast Boot
2. Using Balena "Etcher" has inbuilt Telemetrie, better is Ventoy or Rufus.
3. Later he recommend to install Proton low level Kernel Anti Cheat Software
EAC or Battle-eye. This is against his own agenda to be against Kernel AC.
4. He failed with the explanation about the nvidia freedriver.
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Personal Manjaro Experience:

I had my first time with Linux (Red Hat "Caldera") as i was 14 years old, i uninstalled it pretty quick because nothing was running and it was very complicated this was 1997 (around Diablo1 times) and i saw nothing what Linux would give me at this time.
Windows wasn't all this years no data harvester but this changed finally with Win10.

Linux is developed greatly in the past 23 years...

So i started my real journey with Linux around 2020 collecting information about the big 3 Linux Tree's (Debian, Arch and Redhat) and it was a close decision between Mint and Manjaro the big difference im a Tech Nerd (not a coder) and i don't mind to learn and maintain my system. You get stable release (Kernel) updates every 2-3 Weeks pretty easy to install in the Package Manager UI and sometimes there are .pacnew files (config files, in general only 5 per year) or little bugs to fix and its required to look in https://forum.manjaro.org/c/announcements/stable-updates/12 the Forum to fix them, won't take long and they are rare but even as bloody noob i could pretty quick handle it. It was like destroying the final boss in Doom and i was total happy to archive the first experience and fight the little bug for Super Earth and Democracy, and that i don't need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MS Developer to get the job done xD

When i use my PC/Laptop around 12hours per day, i only spend maybe 1-3min with the Terminal per week average, no big deal for a average use case. Linux in general has really awesome driver support, you would be surprised even to boot into a Linux live environment how instant your PC is running without doing anything at all.. my yaw dropped to the bottom as the first time i booted from my Manjaro KDE (Full ISO)USB Stick and opened the filebrowser (called dolphin) to watch 30sec later Star Trek Voyager per drag+drop from NTFS drive in VLC Player, in a Linux OS without even installing it WTF.

My printer was instant running also, the sames goes with many other devices, "almost" everything just works. My Creative Soundcard X-fi was running instant, but my new Creative Soundblaster AE-5 is another story and required Alsamixer but still it was working with Forum help and this super Linux Brains which reversed Engineered the creative driver for my AE-5 Soundcard holy crap... take this Duke Nukem 3D Boss yaaay :D

It took me 6month to learn the most stuff around Linux (like FSTAB, GRUB, Alsamixer, Timeshift, pacman and most used Terminal Commands), when i remember how many years i need to learn the most from MS-DOS, Win3.11 to Windows10... the road had stones too.

Im 40years old now and i could do it to learn Linux, you can do it too.

DONATION:
Don't forget to Donate Money to the smaller Open Source Projects and don't play the greedy card, this social coders need to eat too and they have a Soul... not like this closed source Demons :D I donated the last 3 years around 400€ and split the money to around 12 Open Source Projects.
no one even pays attention to this, haters and whiney little gamers always cry over DRM or carnal anti cheats and ELUAs and f*** dont even look at there operation system WINDOWS HAS BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG DUHHHHHHHH, got i hate stupid people ...
Kobold 2024년 5월 17일 오전 11시 03분 
faijeya님이 먼저 게시:
My beef with Ubuntu are snaps and the push for the monetizable ecosystem they embody.
+1 that's exactly my point too.

faijeya님이 먼저 게시:
Gnome is solvable by, let's say, using KDE Neon or Pop OS (when they'll finish _rewriting things in Rust_), but the overall distro goals, while understandable, are not aligned with mine.
KDE Neon based on Debian right? Which normally stand for older packages and more stable system, but KDE Neon user's forced to install the newest (bleeding edge, DE) KDE Updates... normal this shouldn't be a problem, but on this big KDE update that happen every 3-4 year's could let to unreliable system for a few user's.

I think there is a good reason why KDE also gives LTS versions.

I think the point going to Kubuntu, because of the clean we delay everything at the same time delay. I just don't know anything about the Telemetry from Kubuntu... its a gray area for me TBH.

btw. I upgraded today with KDE version 5 to version 6.0.4 on my Manjaro/KDE (AMD Hardware) Laptop and i saw that my desktop performance was terrible, i had to switch from X11 to Wayland... otherwise my DE would had low fps.
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Vault Traveler 2024년 5월 17일 오전 11시 36분 
GrayWolfAtlas님이 먼저 게시:
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
Linux is Gaming Ready today and a lot games running flawless today, you can get rid (after time) of the Spy OS Win10/11 and install Manjaro/KDE (its on of the best Linux Distro's out there and also recommend by Valve) or other Distro's. For the first steps in Linux there is also recommendation to use Mint/Cinnamon.

You can easily play games with Steam today, activate Proton in steam and press play, most of the time it just works.

With Microsoft new service agreement (since October 2023) to scan & use all (for AI) your private locale files, its a middle finger to the Private User anyways, set a clear sign to Microsoft to ♥♥♥♥ off and install Linux. Get your Privacy and control back!

Microsoft own's your PC right now. If you think the Denuvo EULA is the worst, look first what M$ is doing... remember you can Shutdown your Games or Steam but your OS will still Spy on you and no Third-Party Windows Tool will stop that! You can't disable Telemetry in Win10/Win11!!!

M$ Service Agreement 10/2023:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOUdY4Pj_ec

MS Office (delayed) offline telemetry:
https://youtu.be/p3L7bLYz-mk?t=593

Linux is gaming ready today, we no longer need Microsoft! I'm mainly use Linux since almost 4 years now, as gamer! I have Win10 installed and used it only for VR Gaming and Simracing today.

You don't have to decide between Linux or Windows, you can also use both and find the middle way between both worlds, you can do a slow progression, no one is forcing you!

Homeworld 3 Steam Linux User Info's:
https://www.protondb.com/app/1840080

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Information/Overview if you interested to try out Linux:
I just can recommend to everyone who is deciding to get his feet wet, instead jumping straight into Linux water, to buy another external/internal SSD (250-500GB should be enough). So you can easy decide which OS you want to boot when you start your PC and with a hotkey (for my Bios its F12) to choose which HDD/SSD you wanted to boot from, without messing around with dual boot function between Windows and Linux.
"You always need a additional USB Boot-Stick to install, same as installing Windows"

I bought 4 years ago a Samsung Portable SSD T5 (500GB) which performs really good and i can't even see the difference between my Linux Laptop which has a M.2 SSD.

"For (little) testing you can even install Linux on a USB stick, if you don't have the money for a second internal/external SSD, i think the bare minimum should be a 30-50GB USB Stick. Some people maybe try Virtual Machine, but a VM never gives Linux the performance as a native installation, at least not without advanced VM Settings!"

In the early phase i switched regularly between Win7 and Linux which gave me a good feeling for a better transition, to find program's for Linux that replaced my program's under Windows.

Distro (Fundament 40%) & Desktop Environment (Surface 60%):
Some Distributions allows to choose several different Desktop Environments. Depends on the liking and the eye candy or the age on your Hardware. I was in shock after i realised how much stuff rely on the DE and not the Distro.

So choosing a Desktop Environment (DE) is also a big decision, there are really beautiful DE's out there and you can (you don't have too) adjust them "MODDING" them, specially KDE has really good functions with Transparency Taskbar with Blur effects or to archive your old/retro Win2k or Win7 navigation feeling.

Youtube could probably give you a quick peek, after you visited your chosen distro page to download the ISO File.

KDE easy GUI Modification (no terminal needed) and I never was running into a single bug on my Rolling Release from this Layouts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJzfaqRLfpY

Budgie and Cinnamon DE's has probably also good layouts.
Gnome, XFCE, LXQt and Mate DE's are for older hardware or just less RAM hungry.

Distributions:
To choose a Distro is another Story, it depends on the Hardware and Packages that are available. Rolling Release or not, to always get the newest Kernel Updates (Drivers) for better performance/newer Hardware but thats require little bid more time for maintaining the OS. The support for Official Reposition/Flatpak/AppImage/AUR or Snaps (While Snaps the last recommend Package installer is and forced for Ubuntu Users, as far as i know).

Some Distro's just give more freedom then others, while Mint is good for unexperienced users and mainly for people who just want to quick running their games and browse and don't care about adjustments... it also has its limitations.

So when you choose a distro, get aware how old the package are... specially for gaming performance the Arch Tree and the distro's that are based on Arch is the Ultimate gaming goal but probably only recommend for beginner who is willing to learn more. Red Hat Distro's like Nobara are the middle way between Debian/Arch.

Arch Vanilla is the hardest distro in Linux, while Manjaro (Arch) protect the user's and delay packages when there are still bugs around that can't be fixed at the moment (Top news! actually shown with big KDE 6 release right now), downside in this situation's people who using heavily AUR Packages are running into problem's.

Youtube Streamer's don't like that idea about package delay and downvoted Manjaro while at the other hand, they are unaware (incompetent) that you can switch Manjaro Branches between Stable (default), testing & unstable. The last branch are recommend for heavily AUR usage.

Terminal:
Yes, a Terminal Window is sometimes needed for Linux and is a mighty tool, but you can reduce it to a bare minimum and a lot functions are there as a simple Graphics User Interface (GUI), the most Youtube beginner video's still fool people with information that they need to adjust all possible settings inside a Terminal, but in most situations its a lie. I don't understand where their goal is.

Disable Bios Features:
Its recommend that you disable "Fast Boot" when using Linux, you probably run into issues sooner or later because of Fast Boot.

Also Keep in mind, that the whole ARCH Tree don't give official support for "Secure Boot". Deactivate "Secure Boot".

Win11 user's are forced to activate TPM/Secure Boot in Bios, while Win10 User's are free to chose, Microsoft wants to control the PC Boot and steal your local passwords with TPM Cloud storage. This has nothing to do with security its only advertising from Microsoft, its a hardware dongle for Microsoft and it gives Microsoft (not you) the security, so its a verification process and is designed against free and open source.

Pre-Install Tip, if you don't want to use Dual Boot on a Single Drive:
Disable your Windows Drive while installing Linux, you can do that in Bios and disable the SATA Ports or unplug the power connector from your drive's. This gives you 2 advantages, first you can't do a mistake with your partitions/files while you installing.

Second there is no connection between Linux/Windows. Keep in mind to do the same (vise versa) when you re-install Windows in future. Of course you can activate your Windows Drive after you done with the install.

Install with USB-Bootstick:
You can Download the Free Image version from your chosen Distro, created with
Ventoy or Rufus (Etcher has shady telemetry no longer recommend) they all are Bootstick creation tools. What can be confusion that you see 2 times the same Linux Boot option shown in your Bios from your fresh created Bootstick.

One entry is for "Legacy BIOS also called CSM" Boot and the other is for "UEFI BIOS also called EFI" Boot. if you selected the wrong you will later see a error, no big deal no dmg will happen... just try the other Boot-entry then and it should work.

Nvidia user's should use Nvidia Proprietary Driver:
The most Distro's has used per default the Free (reversed engineered) Nvidia driver called "Nouveau" while the driver is good for older GPU's like nvidia 1060-1080Ti (Pascal) and will doing a goodjob for normal Browsing/Media. https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html

It's not the first choice for gaming!!! Most Distro's/DE's has a simple UI to switch between this 2 driver's. For KDE its in Taskbar>settings>system settings>Hardware Configuration.

Setup Linux Steam/Proton:
1.Steam should be Pre-installed in most distro's but it can easily added with your Visually Package Manager from your Distro. Search it/Select it and click apply, that's it. Steam looks 97% identical to the Windows Version.
2.Activate Proton in Steam: Open Top left Steam>Settings>Compatibility and choose Proton Experimental. Also activate the 2 Steam Play Switches! You only need a EXT4 Partition (instead NTFS) for maximum user experience and just install your games in your Steam Folder (default location is your Home Partition) or create a second library (same as in Windows to install on a second drive/another partition) more user friendliness isn't possible... In Steam its 1:1 the same feeling as under Windows. Around 85% of Steam Games works Plug & Play, the other's needs "maybe" a Steam launch command>Properties from your Steamgame and copy+paste it from ProtonDB Webpage, less then 2% of Steam Games will not run!

Win10 support end's at the end of 2025:
Older Hardware like (AMD) Zen1 or (Intel) Skylake don't have TPM and the newest Win11 Update 24H2 reject this system and bypassing is no longer allowed.

A little NTFS Warning just in case:
NTFS is a MS-Windows (emulated) Filesystem in Linux and could lead to data corruption, but "reading" files should be no problem. Better to mount it as Read-Only just in case. When you want to transfer data between MS-Windows and Linux use a (recommended) exFat Partition or Fat32.

FPS Performance comparison Arch vs Win11:
https://www.computerbase.de/2023-12/welche-linux-distribution-zum-spielen/2/
(no need to watch part1 /its outdated):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5r1KSmOVss

(Optional) Holding Hand's Install Linux Video Guide (Mint+Gaming):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyT4wfz5ZMg
(but with 4x critics from my side:)
1. Not telling about disabling Fast Boot
2. Using Balena "Etcher" has inbuilt Telemetrie, better is Ventoy or Rufus.
3. Later he recommend to install Proton low level Kernel Anti Cheat Software
EAC or Battle-eye. This is against his own agenda to be against Kernel AC.
4. He failed with the explanation about the nvidia freedriver.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Personal Manjaro Experience:

I had my first time with Linux (Red Hat "Caldera") as i was 14 years old, i uninstalled it pretty quick because nothing was running and it was very complicated this was 1997 (around Diablo1 times) and i saw nothing what Linux would give me at this time.
Windows wasn't all this years no data harvester but this changed finally with Win10.

Linux is developed greatly in the past 23 years...

So i started my real journey with Linux around 2020 collecting information about the big 3 Linux Tree's (Debian, Arch and Redhat) and it was a close decision between Mint and Manjaro the big difference im a Tech Nerd (not a coder) and i don't mind to learn and maintain my system. You get stable release (Kernel) updates every 2-3 Weeks pretty easy to install in the Package Manager UI and sometimes there are .pacnew files (config files, in general only 5 per year) or little bugs to fix and its required to look in https://forum.manjaro.org/c/announcements/stable-updates/12 the Forum to fix them, won't take long and they are rare but even as bloody noob i could pretty quick handle it. It was like destroying the final boss in Doom and i was total happy to archive the first experience and fight the little bug for Super Earth and Democracy, and that i don't need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MS Developer to get the job done xD

When i use my PC/Laptop around 12hours per day, i only spend maybe 1-3min with the Terminal per week average, no big deal for a average use case. Linux in general has really awesome driver support, you would be surprised even to boot into a Linux live environment how instant your PC is running without doing anything at all.. my yaw dropped to the bottom as the first time i booted from my Manjaro KDE (Full ISO)USB Stick and opened the filebrowser (called dolphin) to watch 30sec later Star Trek Voyager per drag+drop from NTFS drive in VLC Player, in a Linux OS without even installing it WTF.

My printer was instant running also, the sames goes with many other devices, "almost" everything just works. My Creative Soundcard X-fi was running instant, but my new Creative Soundblaster AE-5 is another story and required Alsamixer but still it was working with Forum help and this super Linux Brains which reversed Engineered the creative driver for my AE-5 Soundcard holy crap... take this Duke Nukem 3D Boss yaaay :D

It took me 6month to learn the most stuff around Linux (like FSTAB, GRUB, Alsamixer, Timeshift, pacman and most used Terminal Commands), when i remember how many years i need to learn the most from MS-DOS, Win3.11 to Windows10... the road had stones too.

Im 40years old now and i could do it to learn Linux, you can do it too.

DONATION:
Don't forget to Donate Money to the smaller Open Source Projects and don't play the greedy card, this social coders need to eat too and they have a Soul... not like this closed source Demons :D I donated the last 3 years around 400€ and split the money to around 12 Open Source Projects.
no one even pays attention to this, haters and whiney little gamers always cry over DRM or carnal anti cheats and ELUAs and f*** dont even look at there operation system WINDOWS HAS BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG DUHHHHHHHH, got i hate stupid people ...

No only a loud minority says that and another loud minority (consumer level linux users) tries to latch on to this.

Thats the reality.

Majority of people dont even know what denovo is.
Orkhepaj 2024년 5월 17일 오후 12시 20분 
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Kobold 2024년 5월 20일 오전 11시 01분 
@GrayWolve
@Vault traveler
What is wrong with you guys, spamming topics with endless fullquotes....
Just ignore this topic and go on with your shallow live.

faijeya님이 먼저 게시:
Nope, Neon is Ubuntu LTS based.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_neon

I think you missed my point, i'm talking mainly about KDE (Desktop Environment). Neon use pretty new releases from KDE Plasma 6.0 release, even Manjaro which is based on Arch delayed KDE 6.0 for stable user's for 2 month till Plasma 6.0.4 Release which includes a lot Hotfixes.

And i just installed the big Plasma 6 Update since 4 hours on my main rig (Intel+Nvidia 2080Ti), playing x-com2 with few mods for several hours and pretty good FPS, but im still using X11.

I not even had to reset my Home User, my system is running flawless for 4 year's without a reinstall. I just love Manjaro/KDE... Timeshift system snapshots just gives me the security that i need, if something goes wrong.

faijeya님이 먼저 게시:
I don't have good words to say about wayland.
Nothing about wayland excites me and things I find useful (fluxbox, setxkbmap for switching layouts on alt+shift, xinput to easily disable misbehaving inputs, etc) are condescendingly declared haram with no good replacements.
Oh, and nVidia beef that I'd support from ideological reasons if only AMD could into supporting the compute stack on its graphics processing products.
I'm still unaware where the benefits are from Wayland in comparison to X11.
I only know that X11 is really old and i repeatly heard that it has unfixable issues and security holes. Probably Wayland needs time to mature, but will replace X11 in the near future.
Kobold 2024년 5월 23일 오후 9시 27분 
People having problems playing Homeworld Remaster1&2 under windows:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244160/discussions/0/350542683211533049/?ctp=3

To bad its running fine under Linux...

Co-Pilot Recall newest Spy Feature from Windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtvRsQvkkrY
Oobaneko 2024년 5월 23일 오후 9시 45분 
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
People having problems playing Homeworld Remaster1&2 under windows:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244160/discussions/0/350542683211533049/?ctp=3

To bad its running fine under Linux...

Co-Pilot Recall newest Spy Feature from Windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtvRsQvkkrY
you can remove so-pilot via group policy, you know.
PeTTs0n 2024년 5월 23일 오후 9시 51분 
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
People having problems playing Homeworld Remaster1&2 under windows:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244160/discussions/0/350542683211533049/?ctp=3

To bad its running fine under Linux...

Co-Pilot Recall newest Spy Feature from Windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtvRsQvkkrY

Ahh anecdotal evidence vs. anecdotal evidence ("It doesn't run for me on configuration X!" vs. "but it runs fine/for me on configuration Y!") and trying to make a point with those as basis? Really?

Sure, dislike Microsoft and/or Windows all you wish (and I won't blame you for it, there's a lot to dislike), but the way you're making your points here is kinda dishonest. And with regards to the original post and topic: two wrongs don't make a right. The EULA or draconian DRM don't get any better because "someone else does it (or worse) too!". In any way, shape or form. That's just an argumentation fallacy to even insinuate.
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Kobold 2024년 5월 24일 오전 3시 16분 
PeTTs0n님이 먼저 게시:
Kobold님이 먼저 게시:
People having problems playing Homeworld Remaster1&2 under windows:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244160/discussions/0/350542683211533049/?ctp=3

To bad its running fine under Linux...

Co-Pilot Recall newest Spy Feature from Windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtvRsQvkkrY

Ahh anecdotal evidence vs. anecdotal evidence ("It doesn't run for me on configuration X!" vs. "but it runs fine/for me on configuration Y!") and trying to make a point with those as basis? Really?

Sure, dislike Microsoft and/or Windows all you wish (and I won't blame you for it, there's a lot to dislike), but the way you're making your points here is kinda dishonest. And with regards to the original post and topic: two wrongs don't make a right. The EULA or draconian DRM don't get any better because "someone else does it (or worse) too!". In any way, shape or form. That's just an argumentation fallacy to even insinuate.
I see you are the one who prefer double high standards... Microsoft EULA is much more worse than this game, that's the key point. Your arguments are just weak here... since we can disagree with MS and Gearbox.

But disagreeing with Gearbox and accepting the Terms and permanent Monitoring from Windows makes yourself a fool.

Btw. thanks for the 6x Clown Awards, 8x Smileys from you... i just gave you 2 of them back ;)
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