Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

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Nuevo Tortuga...
I am not sure who designed the mission, but deploying your T-Force reinforcements into enemy lines of fire (which includes plasma miniguns, ATGMs and a lot of other stuff) without tanks or any other heavy vehicles is downright dumb.

Like, this is just unfair towards the player. Not only you're not given any tactical freedom, you're also forced to lose troops unless you savescum. Coating entire area in smoke grenades doesn't help, because that ATGM squad still hits your troops from above (love watchtowers).

Besides, the Legion Tank you can hijack in the game doesn't work when you begin the assault. There's no explanation what prerequisites are there to re-activate it and by the time you'd reach the tank (which I assume is the trigger to have it enabled), your entire force will be dead.

I enjoyed the first 4 missions (including the tutorial), but this is unbearable. Even with losses, you can't break through all the enemy troops just littered all over the place. I forced my Stryker across the fences and into the town, only to be greeted with buildings filled with enemy troops.

Does anyone have any idea how the hell this works?
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Spawn of Azathoth Feb 26, 2024 @ 5:54pm 
I was only able to beat this mission by doing something really dumb, but it worked. In the top left area of the map the cartel is keeping some Movement fighters as prisoners. They are on the opposite side of the railroad tracks from where you enter the town. Once you join the cartel and are able to move around freely, head over to where these guys are being held captive. There are a small number of guards who will tell you to get lost if you get too close to the building; in order to avoid a massive firefight you have to wait until the shooting range next to the prisoners is active. The noise of the gunfire will allow you to take out the guards without starting a fight with the rest of the town yet. The troops you rescue will include a guerrilla squad that can plant C4. That is your ticket to success. Load the squad into your truck to refill their ammo, then drive all over town planting C4 wherever you want. The cartels troops will watch you do it without any issues which is pretty funny. I would advise putting several by the front gate to clear the way for your reinforcements, and plant a charge next to every tank the cartel has around town and any building that will have troops in it. Especially their main HQ at the back of the map where you get the armored truck from. When the fighting starts, pause the game and blow all the charges immediately. That will thin their numbers and make getting your troops into the town way easier. You will still have a decent fight on your hands but using the C4 will make it a lot easier.
Spawn of Azathoth Feb 26, 2024 @ 5:58pm 
And if you paid for the Legion tank it will become active eventually, it does take a few minutes though.
I’ll try the thing with prisoners, but the tank didn’t reactivate at all despite me holding out for a long time. It’s weird.
Am I supposed to give up the guy or buy it with gold?
You are right. Everything about this mission is bad and a LOT of helpful things are hidden. And idk where.

About Tank, in my game it reactivated by himself when i had 4 minutes left to defend.
Yeah so trigger to reactivate the tank is reaching it with one of your hero units. This is bs…
WarPig262 Feb 27, 2024 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Sergeant-Major Hellstrom:
Am I supposed to give up the guy or buy it with gold?
If you bet 15 seconds a few times you'll earn enough pesos to buy the tank without giving up the guy.
And as long as you mostly avoid the integrators side of the map, they won't attack you
Vaeus Feb 27, 2024 @ 8:42am 
I placed a fifteen second bet on the fight with the two spiders.. and got no money for beating them. Definitely a bug.
zpc Feb 27, 2024 @ 8:51am 
I placed a fiften second bet on the fight with the two spiders ... and got the money. It is important not to loose the fight by missing the timer. No matter if one destroys the 2 spiders - if it is too late the bet money is gone and their is basically no reward.
Originally posted by WarPig262:
Originally posted by Sergeant-Major Hellstrom:
Am I supposed to give up the guy or buy it with gold?
If you bet 15 seconds a few times you'll earn enough pesos to buy the tank without giving up the guy.
And as long as you mostly avoid the integrators side of the map, they won't attack you

About that lol, the second you complete the mission integrators turn hostile and start barraging you with plasma artillery :D
but basically yeah, unless you do Azatoth's idea of planting C4 under every rock in the town, you're not breaking through the enemies with your reinforcements. Even with 90% of Cartel's patrol forces being turned into world's finest ground beef I still lost something like 10 people to sheer amount of bodies they kept throwing at me.
TheWhiteRabbit Feb 27, 2024 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Sergeant-Major Hellstrom:
Originally posted by WarPig262:
If you bet 15 seconds a few times you'll earn enough pesos to buy the tank without giving up the guy.
And as long as you mostly avoid the integrators side of the map, they won't attack you

About that lol, the second you complete the mission integrators turn hostile and start barraging you with plasma artillery :D

Later in the mission you are given a hacker who you can use to hack a spider during the arena fight after. This will cause them to go hot on the cartel, you can go kill the integrators around the tank (or wait for the cartel to do it for you) jack the remote and boom you get the remote/ the nerd / and the cartel gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up helping your assault.
Originally posted by TheWhiteRabbit:
Originally posted by Sergeant-Major Hellstrom:

About that lol, the second you complete the mission integrators turn hostile and start barraging you with plasma artillery :D

Later in the mission you are given a hacker who you can use to hack a spider during the arena fight after. This will cause them to go hot on the cartel, you can go kill the integrators around the tank (or wait for the cartel to do it for you) jack the remote and boom you get the remote/ the nerd / and the cartel gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up helping your assault.

Lol. That's funny, thanks for the tip!
Cuar Feb 27, 2024 @ 3:57pm 
I know the mission is a bit of a mess if you want to keep the Integrators on your side to trade with, apparently you can't hack their bot if you want the best gear and have to chance a stray shot pissing them off at any moment. But I'd love to keep the Mason and Church squads since we went about buying them some pretty nice gear. That I can only assume disappears afterwards.
Originally posted by Shrumuir:
I know the mission is a bit of a mess if you want to keep the Integrators on your side to trade with, apparently you can't hack their bot if you want the best gear and have to chance a stray shot pissing them off at any moment. But I'd love to keep the Mason and Church squads since we went about buying them some pretty nice gear. That I can only assume disappears afterwards.

You can change their gear to some trash you pick up from dead units and instead make your troops that you intend on using pick up their plasma guns. But IMO plasma guns are too short-ranged to put on Founders inf. It's better off smacked onto Movement and Mercs.
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Date Posted: Feb 26, 2024 @ 5:15pm
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