Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

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Realhollow Feb 24, 2024 @ 4:37pm
Sight hacks
So AI 100% has sight hacks right? like im being shot from off map inf units even when i have Snipers in a building with massive sight range but still my tanks get 1 tapped from a rocker off in the fog
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YoJimbob Feb 25, 2024 @ 10:01pm 
I actually dont understand how sight works in this game - you can have a sniper unit with the "hidden" slidebar at the bottom at 100%, turn off all weapons and the computer still instantly sees you and starts firing as soon as they come within your own line of sight
wei270 Feb 25, 2024 @ 10:48pm 
that is not my experience with sight, in my game vision actually works, just need to turn on ambush mode.

but do remember tanks are alot hard to hide, even if your sniper is a building far away from the tank, the tank may still show up because it can't camo it self
ThatZenoGuy Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:13am 
AI has the same limitations of visual range. But they often spam so many infantry that they have constant scouting from them.
mhardisty  [developer] Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:31am 
Originally posted by Realhollow:
So AI 100% has sight hacks right? like im being shot from off map inf units even when i have Snipers in a building with massive sight range but still my tanks get 1 tapped from a rocker off in the fog
Hi there Realhollow. I wanted to pass this comment from the devs about AI sight:

The AI has exactly the same capabilities as the player. No cheating.
If the AI shoots at the player from the fog of war, it means there is some kind of enemy unit that sees the player’s units, but itself remains invisible to the player due to camo level.

Occasionally, the problem of a unit being invisible due to the terrain appears. When the landscape hides an enemy unit, but the unit itself sees you and can sometimes shoot. This is a fairly rare problem.
But this is the same for AI and your player units. Only camouflage can give an advantage. For example, Legion drones have the highest level of camouflage in the game and can therefore often remain invisible and highlight the player's units to launch spider attacks. And if at the same time the spider has ATGM launchers, then it can shoot from the fog of war if someone highlights an enemy for him.


Hope this helps.
Last edited by mhardisty; Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:38am
zpc Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:33am 
You always want your own infantery scouting ahead (prone would be best because they then use their camo values as well).

What you don't want is to scout with your vehicles. You really don't - especially not deeper into the campaign. Those heavy weapon squads hidden in houses / bushes love to take podshots at your engine/driver/vehicle.

Line of sight and camo becomes very important later in the game. You don't want to stay in the open field and wait for tanks to exchange fire. While this is nice to watch and works in the earlier missions, it will cost you a lot later.

edit: ninja'd by mhardisty :lunar2019shockedpig:
Last edited by zpc; Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:34am
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