Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

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Zoltan Feb 21, 2024 @ 10:53pm
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Game too hard and not fun
I might be out of practice for RTS
Too hard on the easiest level
Expectation of of saving and reloading all the time by game design
It just not fun when a game gets like this.
People should be allowed to adjust the difficulty so they can learn and play the game the way they want.

Getting a refund
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Your Daddy Feb 21, 2024 @ 10:58pm 
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Страдания слабых, играю на макс сложности, играется не шипко трудно, но интересно+)
The suffering of the weak, I play on maximum difficulty, the game is not very difficult, but interesting +)
GeneralGonzo Feb 21, 2024 @ 11:41pm 
Everyone to his taset, so why get insultiung? He´s right, for people not used to the genre even the easiest setting is quite hard!
This will make the game less popular, as regular players won´t buy it then....
Shimmers Feb 21, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by GeneralGonzo:
Everyone to his taset, so why get insultiung? He´s right, for people not used to the genre even the easiest setting is quite hard!
This will make the game less popular, as regular players won´t buy it then....
honestly the game isnt very hard when you get used to it, there hasnt been a good RTS game is ages so its not surprising alot of people are not used to it
Ash Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:04am 
The original poster is pretty correct, actually. The first mission out of the tutorial has you outmanned and outgunned, fighting endless waves of enemies that can kill you from multiple screens away, with each troop who dies being a permanent loss.

Even on the easiest difficulty, your soldiers are still only slightly tougher than the basic bot, and 'stealth' isn't a great idea because there's no visual indicators of enemy sightlines besides 'they don't see you' and 'you're dead'.

I like the game, it's a cool idea, but if they wanted to go for the XCOM vibe, your soldiers need to be a hell of a lot tankier, and if they wanted to go for the Company of Heroes vibe, your troops and vehicles need to be a whole lot more easily replacable.
GeneralGonzo Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by Ash:
I like the game, it's a cool idea, but if they wanted to go for the XCOM vibe, your soldiers need to be a hell of a lot tankier, and if they wanted to go for the Company of Heroes vibe, your troops and vehicles need to be a whole lot more easily replacable.

Why should they´ve had XCOM in mind? Thats a totally different genre with permanent base buidling, research, RPG soldier development and most important: TURN BASED COMBAT!

I don´t know why everybody comes with XCOM when we talk about the huge strategy genre
Last edited by GeneralGonzo; Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:11am
whiteanacondaS Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:12am 
the game so easy jeez in one mission i arty to complete the mission lost 10 men and 3 vics
Iron Horse Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:14am 
It is not that the game is hard, it has to do with the story telling, the lack of prompts and pings, and how the tutorial throws things at you non-stop in a way that make learning tough.

The game does prompt you that f5 is quick save. You will probably be save scumming the first few missions.
General Hawk Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:18am 
It gets better. Many of us come from Warfare and Syrian Warfare so we are used to the TTPs for conducting operations. Play on low difficulty, use pause and listen for prompts etc...don't panic, the pace is actually really nice once you get used to it. Lots of time for emergent gameplay. First few missions are teaching you, trial by fire...
GeneralGonzo Feb 22, 2024 @ 12:21am 
A bit annoyin is all the talking while the fight continues on different fronts. Especially in the 3rd mission they exaggerated it......though I understand doing it for drama reasons....
ThatZenoGuy Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:08am 
Yeah pretty experienced RTS player myself, this game is one of the harder ones.
Warnoise Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:10am 
It is hard, but let me tell you, the feeling when you finish the campaign is one of the best feeling ever. You look back at those raging moments you had throughout the campaign makes it feel like you finished a journey of self discovery lol
Last edited by Warnoise; Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:10am
DarkRod Feb 22, 2024 @ 1:18am 
same , i play in history mode and i can't win xD
MM Feb 22, 2024 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by GeneralGonzo:
Everyone to his taset, so why get insultiung? He´s right, for people not used to the genre even the easiest setting is quite hard!
This will make the game less popular, as regular players won´t buy it then....
I agree. Playing on medium. The biggest problem is the rate of fire, field of vision, reach and sheer nummber of legion heavy units. They are waaaay to op for the opening levels. I can very much understand that players that want to have fun are frustrated.
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Iron Horse Feb 22, 2024 @ 4:11am 
The genre has a traditional RTS progression. Whether is Warcraft, Company of Heroes 1, or Command and Conquer.

- Get used to the controls.
- Make some soldiers or grunts.
- Attack the enemy.
- Scale up as the campaign progresses.

That is fun. The difficulty curve could scale differently from game to game. There is still a curve.

This game doesn't really have that type of learning curve. The player is role playing as a Lieutenant. You are supposed to know things. There wasn't a training. They skipped your bootcamp, more or less. There is a pause button and they prompt you to quick save. You may need that. Every time you make it to a place where there is story progression, you should probably quick save.
Last edited by Iron Horse; Feb 22, 2024 @ 4:14am
Swiftbear Feb 22, 2024 @ 4:17am 
Same here been playing RTSs since the 1990s and I'm having a rough time with this. It's like you are asked to take on so much and are out matched in equipment and tech and whatever you lose, well It aint coming back.

I get the idea of going against a superior threat as a resistance force, but geez. Maybe its just me and I'm so used to playing base building RTSs for so many years and not this here are your 6 units, now defeat the map and don't die. It's rough.

(ATGM guy is the MVP, I lose him its pretty much hopeless lol)
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Date Posted: Feb 21, 2024 @ 10:53pm
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