New Tortuga Mission

[Gabe Newell]

Is it just me, or is this mission near on impossible without a full team wipe? Granted playing on hard however it seems more of a chore than anything else...

[Magos Hudson]

Honestly its one of 2 FILTER missions of the game, id recommend following the guide on here to do it with max effeciency. Without that guide, I never knew you could get the gang in the saloon drunk before the fight, or that you could set wide formation to lower the possibility of casualties during the duels, or that you COULD SAVE THE MOVEMENT troops at the gunrange well before the revolution, and then plant C4 all over the place that you trigger after the revolution starts.

Seriously, you can abuse the heck of the c4 charge, blow the mortar hummers, blow the buildings at the gate house so your reinforcements dont get shredded, the way you can both hack the Integrattors bots in the arena, then steal the friggen Legion Tank by getting there during the scuffle with the cartel and the grators, then go on to hack to trophies too.

The guide really opened my eyes to how crazy detailed the mission is. Now if only someone could write one for Oklahoma city, because man I got SHREDDED in that mission.

[Mr.Kill]

Hard adds an extra 200 dudes to a 400 man mission. You either brought loads of rangers, guerillas and smoke or you brought artillery. That or get ready to do the C4 exploit.

[Gabe Newell]

I've read about using the C4, but when it's described as exploit it kinda spoils it for me somewhat...I'll probably do another restart and follow the guide

[Mr.Kill]

Originally posted by Gabe Newell:

I've read about using the C4, but when it's described as exploit it kinda spoils it for me somewhat...I'll probably do another restart and follow the guide

I mean it consists of literally just having a freed prisoner guerilla team go around and plant obvious ticking bombs at people's feet. Then park the supply truck near the HQ. Hack the bots in the plaza and before the bots go fully hostile move the supply truck into the HQ. Quiet revolution mode starts, pick a fight with the dudes at the gate, set off the C4 and instantly kill them with your plasma guns and shotguns. All major threats are dead its just the waves of cartel infantry that come out of the exit gate as reinforcements who should get murdered by the plaza bots.

[HeathenSW]

Originally posted by Mr.Kill:

Hard adds an extra 200 dudes to a 400 man mission. You either brought loads of rangers, guerillas and smoke or you brought artillery. That or get ready to do the C4 exploit.

And like 100 of them are in the last building. I dunno how many was that, but it's always just PACKED with dudes with all kind of weapons to shred whatever is approaching. There's even ATGM in there. Only C4/artillrey or having about 8 militia squads in total to storm it is a solution.

[Dinvan]

New Tortuga is incredibly fun when you know what to do and how to make things easier for your self. Took me many retries to find everything but between the duels, the arena, the extra troops/trucks and other little bits you can do, nothing made that map easier than the gorilla with C4 . GOD I LOVE THOSE GUYS.

I put c4 and half the map even places where i know infantry run to engage. Needless to say by the time the final fight happen there was no one left and I had to fight the legion units I awoke because they couldnt find the last cartel members at the bottom of the map. I spent a good 5 mins clicking all the C4 on the map.

If you dont wanna do that, just bring artillery.

[Darth Glorious]

In that mission I planted C4 even in the small alleys leading to the train station because some cartel tank can poke out of there and shot with impunity.
You want to stack 4 C4 for strong building, 3 for medium building and 2 for weak building to ensure total destruction. All the towers in the front gate and the prison area must be C4-ed if you want to minimize casualties.

[wei270]

actually that mission has alot of urban fighting, and infinite enemy reinforcement. so you need to know which building to c4 because if you take your time flashing enemy out of building and then wait to heal and repair you guys, the next wave of reinforcement will arrive.

however if you do know which buidilng to c4 you will just breeze pass it.

[Magos Hudson]

Originally posted by wei270:

actually that mission has alot of urban fighting, and infinite enemy reinforcement. so you need to know which building to c4 because if you take your time flashing enemy out of building and then wait to heal and repair you guys, the next wave of reinforcement will arrive.

however if you do know which buidilng to c4 you will just breeze pass it.

You can pre set everything but using the ammo trucks to constantly refill your guys C4 before the revolution, c4 literally every building on the map and the artillery hummers at their base in the south east. I also brought a 155mm gun carriage with my reinforcements, parked it at the trophy park with an ammo truck, and just slowly inched forward with my abrams, its twin plasma plus plasma machine gun let it lay down good fire, while my heavy artillery destroyed any buildings that still stood.

[nailernforce]

This mission is pissing me off. I don't want to read guides to win missions.

[Rin Palora]

Originally posted by HeathenSW:

And like 100 of them are in the last building. I dunno how many was that, but it's always just PACKED with dudes with all kind of weapons to shred whatever is approaching. There's even ATGM in there. Only C4/artillrey or having about 8 militia squads in total to storm it is a solution.

Yeah, that building is packed with dudes, but it's nothing a bit more firepower can't deal with.
Outside of the random ATGM that might be there your vehicles can outrange anyone inside if you come from the prison side, send some militia in the buildings next door to bait them into revealing them selves and pull the back once they do while everything you have just shells that building into the next dimension. Once the walls start going down it's all over.

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[Rin Palora]

Originally posted by nailernforce:

This mission is pissing me off. I don't want to read guides to win missions.

In that case lower the difficulty and or learn how to urban fight.

There are enemy respawns but they're not much of a threat, just something to poke you once in a while.

[Magos Hudson]

Originally posted by nailernforce:

This mission is pissing me off. I don't want to read guides to win missions.

You dont have to read a quide, the mission is beatable without it, its just very difficult. Its very hard to get the Perfect TM ending for that mission without a detailed guide, or you having played it for a couple hours.

Its very much a CRPG level inside an RTS and im all here for it. Use the guide for it only if you want to get the absolute best outcome. If not, use your brain. Think of how the game works, and the mechanics thus far, think of what youve heard during the mission.

For example, so many people dont realize, that after you become cartel, you can go past the train tracks, prior to starting the revolution. In fact there is a way to complete the mission, without starting a revolution at all.

[Darth Glorious]

I only advance to the plaza and stop there, put some in defense so they can not go through, then move the main force along the railroad and take the prison,. From the prison, you can attack directly the main base after razing the strong white building and the tower in the exit next to the base and you will be fine.

[Mr.Kill]

Originally posted by wei270:

actually that mission has alot of urban fighting, and infinite enemy reinforcement. so you need to know which building to c4 because if you take your time flashing enemy out of building and then wait to heal and repair you guys, the next wave of reinforcement will arrive.

however if you do know which buidilng to c4 you will just breeze pass it.

Enemy reinforcements are not infinite. Unless there's scripts I don't know about (i.e kill Miguel to stop reinforcements).