Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

Terminator: Dark Fate - Defiance

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IAMAFISH Mar 1, 2024 @ 3:31am
Dark Fate looks like syrian warfare
does anyone else think this game plays and looks a bit like the RTS syrian warfare? iv not tried it myself but from the videos iv seen they look similar
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Maybe it is same developers?
RPS 12324 Mar 1, 2024 @ 3:40am 
Because it is running the same engine and some people who made Syrian Warfare worked on this game at some point. I played that game before.
Auxipuya212 Mar 1, 2024 @ 4:07am 
Originally posted by IAMAFISH:
does anyone else think this game plays and looks a bit like the RTS syrian warfare? iv not tried it myself but from the videos iv seen they look similar
They have some of the same developers
Samz Mar 1, 2024 @ 7:01am 
Cats Who Play originally worked on this game until the Ukraine Conflict.

It uses the same engine as Syrian Warfare and the original "Warfare" also on steam.
zpc Mar 1, 2024 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Samz:
Cats Who Play originally worked on this game until the Ukraine Conflict.

Curious - more details on that: https://www.theterminatorfans.com/terminator-dark-fate-defiance-suffers-setback-as-russian-game-developer-cats-who-play-departs-project/
its same engine also I think the devs were making it and then they merged with the makers of the startroopers rts because of the ukrain conflict
IAMAFISH Mar 2, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Thank you all for confirming I wasn't crazy. I really liked the gameplay of Syria warfare.. not so much the story but the mechanics where great. I'll definitely try darkfate
LittleSlime Mar 2, 2024 @ 5:51am 
Just have a look in their file lol. In vehicle file, you can still see remnant of syrian warfare with name like T72, BMP, SAU.
Auxipuya212 Mar 2, 2024 @ 6:02am 
Originally posted by LittleSlime:
Just have a look in their file lol. In vehicle file, you can still see remnant of syrian warfare with name like T72, BMP, SAU.
Looks like they will be implementing something from the russians i guess
LittleSlime Mar 2, 2024 @ 6:05am 
Originally posted by Auxipuya212:
Originally posted by LittleSlime:
Just have a look in their file lol. In vehicle file, you can still see remnant of syrian warfare with name like T72, BMP, SAU.
Looks like they will be implementing something from the russians i guess

Nah, it was the data in icon type for showing which unit is tank, car, or so. Not part of unit ID.
Dacian Rider Mar 2, 2024 @ 6:12am 
heh. thought I was the only one who noticed. the mouse over icons / animations could use some work.
zpc Mar 2, 2024 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by LittleSlime:
Originally posted by Auxipuya212:
Looks like they will be implementing something from the russians i guess

Nah, it was the data in icon type for showing which unit is tank, car, or so. Not part of unit ID.

From what I saw the files date back to 2005 - so here is my guess for what "happened":

- same engine
- same "databases" for entity data (excel files)
- old files from old games were just copy&pasted in the new project and edited

Here is e.g. the xml header of the tanks.xml
<?xml version="1.0"?> <?mso-application progid="Excel.Sheet"?> <Workbook xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:ss="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <DocumentProperties xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"> <LastAuthor>[redacted]</LastAuthor> <Created>2005-02-26T16:04:39Z</Created> <LastSaved>2023-11-14T22:32:10Z</LastSaved>

So IMHO there is no "wohooo - awesome plans for the future already hinted in the files" - but instead reality: no cleanup of unneeded junk.

edit
As linked further up the dev team changed, and the old team had to hand over all files to the new team. (which also seems to have some of the old project team - lucky us =) )
Last edited by zpc; Mar 2, 2024 @ 6:17am
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