Helicopter use and tactics

[blackhawkdown48]

When i tried using the Huey helicopter, I couldnt get troops to enter or leave the huey, when I unlocked the Blackhawk I was able to load infantry into it, and rappel them onto a building. I wanted to know if anyone could tell me a few things about these helicopters.

1: can Hueys rappel infantry onto buildings? or is that purely for the blackhawk?
2: can you rappel infantry onto any building? or only specific ones?
3: it seems like specific units can shoot at helicopters, while others cant, I'm assuming as a general rule that most infantry and tanks cant, is this correct?
4: Helicopters do not have repair supplies, so Im assuming that helicopters cannot be fixed in mission?
5: Helicopters seem to like making strafing runs, which typically leads them into more groundfire than needed, when stationary, they make excellent weapons platforms, is there any way to tell them to attack a target without making a strafing run?

[Rin Palora]

Huey is good but it depends on the mission, the enemy and map knowledge.

https://www.youtube.com/live/wKqzqEjcd6k?si=JFSljMycFohfkv3Z&t=4928
(mute the video if you don't wanna hear Romanian)

First recorded kill of an HK Aerial by a Huey :D
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-ZbXJkKjs6YAsnSxD4CsSr8UuySyi5wX?si=oxERtUYWP4imyNyp

The normal rocket attacks (a few rockets and a big circle for another pass) are there to conserve ammo and keep the heli safe and out of range of return fire (as long as they start the pass over your lines). It's alright if you don't wanna babysit them but if you do micro you can get more faster out of the rockets.

1: Yes, you can repel out of the Huey.
2: Specific ones
3: not out of the Huey afaik
4: correct
5: they only do circling attacks with the rockets, if you disable it they'll engage while stationary. You can also force them to fire more rockets before beginning to circle by having it disabled, positioning them looking at the target and then enabling the rockets. There also seems to be a minimum range limit for rocket attacks.

[Darth Glorious]

Heli can be use to sneak saboteur squad to plant C4 behind enemy line.
My pilot also has AT mines skill to add the fun.

[Dr. Merkwürdiglieben]

Other question:

Is going "All-In" on Helicopters a good or bad idea? Or to put it another way...
How dangerous and frequent is the enemy AA?

So far I only got one chopper and I consider to go for more.

[Darth Glorious]

Początkowo opublikowane przez psi2007:

Other question:

Is going "All-In" on Helicopters a good or bad idea? Or to put it another way...
How dangerous and frequent is the enemy AA?

So far I only got one chopper and I consider to go for more.

Helis hate rapid fire enemy like Rev-6 or AA missile bot (if your heli does not have flares)
Another downside is that heli will burn a ton of fuels if you do not land them.

[Rin Palora]

well... AA is a lot of things. humvees, heavy squads with minigun or maybe .50cals. Anything with a Heavy Plasma Machinegun.

AAA is common they become more common as the game progress and helicopters are fragile.
Against most things with micro you can outrange them with the rockets, or overwhelm them with minigun fire (infantry in the open).

Once the dedicated missile AA shows up it'll probably get dicey, especially for Hueys.

Helicopters shine as mobile firepower against a known target or rapid redeployment of infantry. They're not line vehicles.

Pretty sure you can't really go all-in on them unless you cheese supplies and move back and forward between markets to reset their inventory, you can get 2 Hueys normally until Oklahoma.

[Profile_Name]

Just in case some don't know, Helis can take down air-targets. Just use the force-attack command an a Blackhawk will fire it's ATGM like its an AA missile. Same goes for the ground missile teams

[Profile_Name]

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Just in case some don't know, Helis can take down air-targets. Just use the force-attack command an a Blackhawk will fire it's ATGM like its an AA missile. Same goes for the ground missile teams

After finding out you can do this, it makes the AA upgrade for the Founders missile team a lot more useless with it's only upside is that they'll fire automatically if the enemy air is within range.

[Dr. Merkwürdiglieben]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Darth Glorious:

Początkowo opublikowane przez psi2007:

Other question:

Is going "All-In" on Helicopters a good or bad idea? Or to put it another way...
How dangerous and frequent is the enemy AA?

So far I only got one chopper and I consider to go for more.

Helis hate rapid fire enemy like Rev-6 or AA missile bot (if your heli does not have flares)
Another downside is that heli will burn a ton of fuels if you do not land them.

Thx for the reply. Well I guess I stick to a mixed forces... No, to air cavalry....

[Rin Palora]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Profile_Name:

After finding out you can do this, it makes the AA upgrade for the Founders missile team a lot more useless with it's only upside is that they'll fire automatically if the enemy air is within range.

They automatically fire ATGM's at air targets within range anyway. ^^
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxnYmDUN68W9uoQwH8bjygaxigOdIHyhZf?si=OybN3PwA3D4j0T4q

tho why and when... :shurg:

[Dr. Merkwürdiglieben]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rin Palora:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Profile_Name:

After finding out you can do this, it makes the AA upgrade for the Founders missile team a lot more useless with it's only upside is that they'll fire automatically if the enemy air is within range.

They automatically fire ATGM's at air targets within range anyway. ^^
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxnYmDUN68W9uoQwH8bjygaxigOdIHyhZf?si=OybN3PwA3D4j0T4q

tho why and when... :shurg:

It's important that it happens. :D

[Falcon_BR]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rin Palora:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Profile_Name:

After finding out you can do this, it makes the AA upgrade for the Founders missile team a lot more useless with it's only upside is that they'll fire automatically if the enemy air is within range.

They automatically fire ATGM's at air targets within range anyway. ^^
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxnYmDUN68W9uoQwH8bjygaxigOdIHyhZf?si=OybN3PwA3D4j0T4q

tho why and when... :shurg:

WTF?
What is the point of AA upgrade?

[Darth Glorious]

You need a small difference in altitude to do that... However AA missiles are noob trap, better to use autocannon for AA defense. It is much cheaper and faster to shoot down enemy flyers that way.

[Mr.Kill]

Bradley with Plasma cannons also completely wreck aircraft so there really isn't a reason for the slow atgm squads to get their AA upgrade. Maybe if the cartel used aircraft but they don't.

[Littleman]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rin Palora:

well... AA is a lot of things. humvees, heavy squads with minigun or maybe .50cals. Anything with a Heavy Plasma Machinegun.

AAA is common they become more common as the game progress and helicopters are fragile.
Against most things with micro you can outrange them with the rockets, or overwhelm them with minigun fire (infantry in the open).

Once the dedicated missile AA shows up it'll probably get dicey, especially for Hueys.

Helicopters shine as mobile firepower against a known target or rapid redeployment of infantry. They're not line vehicles.

Pretty sure you can't really go all-in on them unless you cheese supplies and move back and forward between markets to reset their inventory, you can get 2 Hueys normally until Oklahoma.

I just want to add that at most, I've managed to get 3 hueys in my campaigns. This implies you grab one after New Tortuga, after the optional battle on your way to Chihuahua (You need to double back to Tortuga before pushing on), and after the Chihuahua mission

[Barak Yisrael]

there is a mod that makes helis repairable and also more durable